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		<title>By: Worried Singaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-3/#comment-194953</link>
		<dc:creator>Worried Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just now two so call foreign talent ask me,&quot;is there any place to sleep after lunch time around here?&quot;And i answer them in a very TRUE BLUE Singaporean way,&quot;In Singapore we do not slep at work,we WORK.&quot;..then make me thinking why are we employing these so call foreign talent here to sleep,when they are employed to work here...WE SINGAPOREAN are the talent...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just now two so call foreign talent ask me,&#8221;is there any place to sleep after lunch time around here?&#8221;And i answer them in a very TRUE BLUE Singaporean way,&#8221;In Singapore we do not slep at work,we WORK.&#8221;..then make me thinking why are we employing these so call foreign talent here to sleep,when they are employed to work here&#8230;WE SINGAPOREAN are the talent&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-3/#comment-194566</link>
		<dc:creator>Kel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Low Welcome you competition Aljunied GRC for 2011 election I&#039;v been wating for you to take
care our GRC since last election.
You &amp; Ms SL done a good job in the parliament for the singaporean.

I will fully support your A team in this Election. You make a right move to this GRC.With your good leadership WP become strong and forceul. Please chase away the people with white &amp; white from this GRC

Chen Show Mao I agree what you said a team that we are seding the world cup is the national team notis the team that wear red &amp; white .It&#039;s not the team wears white &amp; white.
I wating your team to serve our GRC after this election.
YOU HAVE TEN VOTE FROM MY FAMILY-----SUPPORT,SUPPORT,SUPPORT ALL THE WAY.

Your Sincerely
Kel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Low Welcome you competition Aljunied GRC for 2011 election I&#8217;v been wating for you to take<br />
care our GRC since last election.<br />
You &amp; Ms SL done a good job in the parliament for the singaporean.</p>
<p>I will fully support your A team in this Election. You make a right move to this GRC.With your good leadership WP become strong and forceul. Please chase away the people with white &amp; white from this GRC</p>
<p>Chen Show Mao I agree what you said a team that we are seding the world cup is the national team notis the team that wear red &amp; white .It&#8217;s not the team wears white &amp; white.<br />
I wating your team to serve our GRC after this election.<br />
YOU HAVE TEN VOTE FROM MY FAMILY&#8212;&#8211;SUPPORT,SUPPORT,SUPPORT ALL THE WAY.</p>
<p>Your Sincerely<br />
Kel</p>
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		<title>By: 木子三郎 woods' 3rd</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-3/#comment-110673</link>
		<dc:creator>木子三郎 woods' 3rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned that WP did a FREE lift adding to 5 HDB blocks in 2005.

There were appilication to add new lift without charges to 22 more blocks when 2006 GE was called. HDB left these application stuck in KIV tray, pending for election result.

Eric Low lost again to Low Thia Khiang and MA Bow Tan changed the game rule right after the 2006 GE, he said that all town council must maintian proper fund minimum margin and therefore all life adding must be charged to resident.

Once again, PAP changed rules in the middle of the games, especially when they failed to accomplish their belittled opposition rivals could do.

This is less than a level play and hence, PAP has lost its credibility in the hearts of HG residents。

The main stream Straits Times, did not run the story on this.... 无耻！</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned that WP did a FREE lift adding to 5 HDB blocks in 2005.</p>
<p>There were appilication to add new lift without charges to 22 more blocks when 2006 GE was called. HDB left these application stuck in KIV tray, pending for election result.</p>
<p>Eric Low lost again to Low Thia Khiang and MA Bow Tan changed the game rule right after the 2006 GE, he said that all town council must maintian proper fund minimum margin and therefore all life adding must be charged to resident.</p>
<p>Once again, PAP changed rules in the middle of the games, especially when they failed to accomplish their belittled opposition rivals could do.</p>
<p>This is less than a level play and hence, PAP has lost its credibility in the hearts of HG residents。</p>
<p>The main stream Straits Times, did not run the story on this&#8230;. 无耻！</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-3/#comment-110663</link>
		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr. Low!   Most of our grassroots leaders&#039; are under PAP, and PAP has all rights to use their pawns, agree?

The lifts are working.  MPs are still pawns.  Nothing changed.  May I suggest we turn our attention to more urgent issues please?  

Like, emergency evacuation plans for high-rise and HDB buildings in the event of a quake or something?  Why are they not planned out?  HDB - what say you?  Town council - what say you?  MP - what say you?

I say this because I was the only one in the whole HDB building to feel the floor shake on Sept 30th.  I came outta my house and asked my neighbours.  None felt anything!  I tweeted my experience:
http://twitter.com/qutequte/status/4494067160
http://twitter.com/qutequte/status/4494054882

4 hours later the news reported about the quake in Indonesia.  What and where are our evacuation plans?   Will the lifts be of any use for emergencies?  What should we do?  How do we communicate evacuation plans to our neighbours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr. Low!   Most of our grassroots leaders&#8217; are under PAP, and PAP has all rights to use their pawns, agree?</p>
<p>The lifts are working.  MPs are still pawns.  Nothing changed.  May I suggest we turn our attention to more urgent issues please?  </p>
<p>Like, emergency evacuation plans for high-rise and HDB buildings in the event of a quake or something?  Why are they not planned out?  HDB &#8211; what say you?  Town council &#8211; what say you?  MP &#8211; what say you?</p>
<p>I say this because I was the only one in the whole HDB building to feel the floor shake on Sept 30th.  I came outta my house and asked my neighbours.  None felt anything!  I tweeted my experience:<br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/qutequte/status/4494067160" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/qutequte/status/4494067160</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/qutequte/status/4494054882" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/qutequte/status/4494054882</a></p>
<p>4 hours later the news reported about the quake in Indonesia.  What and where are our evacuation plans?   Will the lifts be of any use for emergencies?  What should we do?  How do we communicate evacuation plans to our neighbours?</p>
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		<title>By: btan</title>
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		<dc:creator>btan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wilfred,

Your reply makes my heart glad. This shows opposition parties like SPP can be magnanimous and work for the people and not care who gets the credit. Unlike PAP who tries to squeeze every political credit out of every action.

However, credit must be given when credit is due and this credit should be given to Mr Chiam See Tong for his unrelentless championing for the improvement of the estate of Potong Pasir. I am glad that the residents of PP knows about this.

Kudos to your party and all the best to Mr Chiam&#039;s health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wilfred,</p>
<p>Your reply makes my heart glad. This shows opposition parties like SPP can be magnanimous and work for the people and not care who gets the credit. Unlike PAP who tries to squeeze every political credit out of every action.</p>
<p>However, credit must be given when credit is due and this credit should be given to Mr Chiam See Tong for his unrelentless championing for the improvement of the estate of Potong Pasir. I am glad that the residents of PP knows about this.</p>
<p>Kudos to your party and all the best to Mr Chiam&#8217;s health.</p>
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		<title>By: tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilfred,
Your letter makes it sound like PAP and HDB have been magnanimous
 and accomodating.
There was no misreporting by  reporters,and what make you think they
were &#039;rookies&quot;? 
I suggest you reread and analyse the letters and remarks by
LTK, MBT, HDB and the PS to MND recently and by GCT during
the last GE
That wasn&#039;t the impression most netters felt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilfred,<br />
Your letter makes it sound like PAP and HDB have been magnanimous<br />
 and accomodating.<br />
There was no misreporting by  reporters,and what make you think they<br />
were &#8216;rookies&#8221;?<br />
I suggest you reread and analyse the letters and remarks by<br />
LTK, MBT, HDB and the PS to MND recently and by GCT during<br />
the last GE<br />
That wasn&#8217;t the impression most netters felt.</p>
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		<title>By: wilfred eung</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-3/#comment-110534</link>
		<dc:creator>wilfred eung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Singaporeans were upset with the fact that Mr Sitoh Yoh-Pin and Mr Eric Low were the ones who announced HDB’s decision to upgrade lifts in Potong Pasir and Hougang instead of Mr Chiam See Tong and Mr Low Thia Khiang who are the respective MPs for the wards.

I think the fault lies in mis-reporting by rookie reporters. Here are the sequence of events to the best of my knowledge to let everyone know that Mr Sitoh, the advisor to Potong Pasir CCC, is merely carrying out his duty as the PAP representative in Potong Pasir acting as the messenger. The groundwork prior to his announcement was very much carried out by the Potong Pasir Town Council.

June 09- Members from Potong Pasir Town Council ( Town Council Board Committee members including Chairman Chiam See Tong, 3 grassroot residents, SPP members and TC Senior Management) met up with HDB senior officers regarding the LUP at the HDB Hub. HDB management shared the plans with us and listened to some of the Council&#039;s views.

Mid July 09 - Minister of State Ms Grace Foo announced that Potong Pasir and Hougang will be included in LUP.

August 09 - Potong Pasir Town Council deliberated on which blocks to be nominated for the first phase of the lift upgrading. Priority was given to blocks 101-110 as the other blocks have already gone through some inconvenience with last year&#039;s R&amp; R and the council felt that these blocks should be given a break from any construction work for the time being.

The selected blocks were then submitted to Potong Pasir CCC for their &quot;endorsement&quot;.

By this time, most residents of Potong Pasir already know about the impending upgrading.

So when Mr Sitoh announced the plans last week, it was almost a non-event for most of the residents. In fact its nice of him to administrate the rest of the process. Representatives from PPTC will be involved in the committee that is set up by Mr Sitoh&#039;s team to administrate the upgrading.


Wilfred Leung
SPP, Office of Chiam See Tong
Town Councillor, PPTC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Singaporeans were upset with the fact that Mr Sitoh Yoh-Pin and Mr Eric Low were the ones who announced HDB’s decision to upgrade lifts in Potong Pasir and Hougang instead of Mr Chiam See Tong and Mr Low Thia Khiang who are the respective MPs for the wards.</p>
<p>I think the fault lies in mis-reporting by rookie reporters. Here are the sequence of events to the best of my knowledge to let everyone know that Mr Sitoh, the advisor to Potong Pasir CCC, is merely carrying out his duty as the PAP representative in Potong Pasir acting as the messenger. The groundwork prior to his announcement was very much carried out by the Potong Pasir Town Council.</p>
<p>June 09- Members from Potong Pasir Town Council ( Town Council Board Committee members including Chairman Chiam See Tong, 3 grassroot residents, SPP members and TC Senior Management) met up with HDB senior officers regarding the LUP at the HDB Hub. HDB management shared the plans with us and listened to some of the Council&#8217;s views.</p>
<p>Mid July 09 &#8211; Minister of State Ms Grace Foo announced that Potong Pasir and Hougang will be included in LUP.</p>
<p>August 09 &#8211; Potong Pasir Town Council deliberated on which blocks to be nominated for the first phase of the lift upgrading. Priority was given to blocks 101-110 as the other blocks have already gone through some inconvenience with last year&#8217;s R&amp; R and the council felt that these blocks should be given a break from any construction work for the time being.</p>
<p>The selected blocks were then submitted to Potong Pasir CCC for their &#8220;endorsement&#8221;.</p>
<p>By this time, most residents of Potong Pasir already know about the impending upgrading.</p>
<p>So when Mr Sitoh announced the plans last week, it was almost a non-event for most of the residents. In fact its nice of him to administrate the rest of the process. Representatives from PPTC will be involved in the committee that is set up by Mr Sitoh&#8217;s team to administrate the upgrading.</p>
<p>Wilfred Leung<br />
SPP, Office of Chiam See Tong<br />
Town Councillor, PPTC</p>
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		<title>By: Debra Chua Mui Soon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra Chua Mui Soon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGAIN!, there IS only 1 way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGAIN!, there IS only 1 way out.</p>
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		<title>By: kaomangai</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaomangai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Singapore has a lot of similarities with China: -

China is the best disguised capitalist society in the world whereas Singapore is the best disguised communist society in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Singapore has a lot of similarities with China: -</p>
<p>China is the best disguised capitalist society in the world whereas Singapore is the best disguised communist society in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: rwkc</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-3/#comment-110464</link>
		<dc:creator>rwkc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Lim Yuin Chien [Press Secretary for Ministry of National Development],


Your letter [ST Forum, 13 Oct] is not a satisfactory explanation, as it misses completely the crux of the argument put forward by from Muhammad Yusuf Osman [ST 7Oct] which is that the elected MPs for Potong Pasir and Hougang should be the persons to announce the lift upgrading exercise for these constituencies.

Messrs Sitoh Yih Pin and Eric Low are the outcasts where these two constituencies are concerned and if there is anything to be announced affecting their residential estate the people would rather hear it from the MP they elected, rather than from an individual they officially rejected. 

The response initiated jointly by HDB and PA is another example of an attempt that has evidently missed out on the broad picture, presumably because partisan politics is an inherent practice of PAP-controlled institutions. 

Your letter states, inter alia, “The joint letter last Friday by the Housing and Development Board [HDB] and the People’s Association [‘Why grassroots advisers announce lift upgrading’] should be read in conjunction with the Minister for National Development Mah Bow Tan’s explanation to the media last Wednesday.” Why should the letter from HDB and PA be read in conjunction with MBT’s comments? If HDB and PA had wanted their letter to be read this way why didn’t they state so in the letter? MBT’s explanation was made two-three days earlier, on the same day that Osman’s letter was published.

Your assertion “Opposition MPs are not answerable to the Government, nor are they obliged to carry out and explain the Government’s policies” is only partially true. While opposition MPs may not be obliged to carry out certain Government’s policies, as MPs they are expected to explain, if necessary, to their electorate any public policy that affects them. 

It is not a matter of dispute that cost of lift upgrading for HDB blocks is funded principally by money from public coffers. And such money – being public funds – is to be spent for the common benefit or good of Singaporeans. Do you agree? And do you agree that it was wrong of the Government to say, as it did some time ago, that priority for lift upgrading for HDB blocks should be accorded to those with PAP MPs? The people of Singapore may have voted the PAP into power but they expect the Government to treat all Singaporeans with fairness. 

Your assertion “The will of the people expressed in general elections is to elect a government for the country as a whole, and not to elect separate local governments for each constituency” is clearly a strawman, and therefore useless as an argument point. Nobody who is rational would think that by having ten opposition MPs in ten constituencies we are having ten separate local governments. Maybe, you are an exception?

This government is morally bankrupt and its days will undoubtedly come to an end.

[a modified version has been sent to The Straits Times Forum, 14 Oct]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Lim Yuin Chien [Press Secretary for Ministry of National Development],</p>
<p>Your letter [ST Forum, 13 Oct] is not a satisfactory explanation, as it misses completely the crux of the argument put forward by from Muhammad Yusuf Osman [ST 7Oct] which is that the elected MPs for Potong Pasir and Hougang should be the persons to announce the lift upgrading exercise for these constituencies.</p>
<p>Messrs Sitoh Yih Pin and Eric Low are the outcasts where these two constituencies are concerned and if there is anything to be announced affecting their residential estate the people would rather hear it from the MP they elected, rather than from an individual they officially rejected. </p>
<p>The response initiated jointly by HDB and PA is another example of an attempt that has evidently missed out on the broad picture, presumably because partisan politics is an inherent practice of PAP-controlled institutions. </p>
<p>Your letter states, inter alia, “The joint letter last Friday by the Housing and Development Board [HDB] and the People’s Association [‘Why grassroots advisers announce lift upgrading’] should be read in conjunction with the Minister for National Development Mah Bow Tan’s explanation to the media last Wednesday.” Why should the letter from HDB and PA be read in conjunction with MBT’s comments? If HDB and PA had wanted their letter to be read this way why didn’t they state so in the letter? MBT’s explanation was made two-three days earlier, on the same day that Osman’s letter was published.</p>
<p>Your assertion “Opposition MPs are not answerable to the Government, nor are they obliged to carry out and explain the Government’s policies” is only partially true. While opposition MPs may not be obliged to carry out certain Government’s policies, as MPs they are expected to explain, if necessary, to their electorate any public policy that affects them. </p>
<p>It is not a matter of dispute that cost of lift upgrading for HDB blocks is funded principally by money from public coffers. And such money – being public funds – is to be spent for the common benefit or good of Singaporeans. Do you agree? And do you agree that it was wrong of the Government to say, as it did some time ago, that priority for lift upgrading for HDB blocks should be accorded to those with PAP MPs? The people of Singapore may have voted the PAP into power but they expect the Government to treat all Singaporeans with fairness. </p>
<p>Your assertion “The will of the people expressed in general elections is to elect a government for the country as a whole, and not to elect separate local governments for each constituency” is clearly a strawman, and therefore useless as an argument point. Nobody who is rational would think that by having ten opposition MPs in ten constituencies we are having ten separate local governments. Maybe, you are an exception?</p>
<p>This government is morally bankrupt and its days will undoubtedly come to an end.</p>
<p>[a modified version has been sent to The Straits Times Forum, 14 Oct]</p>
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		<title>By: nothoodwinked</title>
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		<dc:creator>nothoodwinked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say PAP should keep their pork-barrel politics.
That way enough people would be pissed off to effect
a real change at the next GE 
A PR disaster for the PAP is a PR coup for the opposition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say PAP should keep their pork-barrel politics.<br />
That way enough people would be pissed off to effect<br />
a real change at the next GE<br />
A PR disaster for the PAP is a PR coup for the opposition</p>
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		<title>By: Raky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have FAILED the citizen -  period !

1) Approving the increase in public transport to benefit a few but cause hardships to thousands - where is the HEART ?

2) How to reconcile earning thousands per day ( cutting ribbons ) to those who earned below $1000 a month ( slaves to employers ) - where is the  LOGIC ?

3) They are voted in to take care of the people and not only think of the material
aspect of a few - where is the COMPASSION ?

Blatant profiteering from citizens in their daily lives !
Mountains of greviences ignored and later forgotten !
WORDS ARE CHEAP - Where is our RIGHTS !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have FAILED the citizen &#8211;  period !</p>
<p>1) Approving the increase in public transport to benefit a few but cause hardships to thousands &#8211; where is the HEART ?</p>
<p>2) How to reconcile earning thousands per day ( cutting ribbons ) to those who earned below $1000 a month ( slaves to employers ) &#8211; where is the  LOGIC ?</p>
<p>3) They are voted in to take care of the people and not only think of the material<br />
aspect of a few &#8211; where is the COMPASSION ?</p>
<p>Blatant profiteering from citizens in their daily lives !<br />
Mountains of greviences ignored and later forgotten !<br />
WORDS ARE CHEAP &#8211; Where is our RIGHTS !</p>
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		<title>By: rwkc</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwkc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[#86 Realist]

&quot;I do not know whether the ruling party is free from corruption(but I agree that a million dollar salary keeps temptation away) but as far as I’m concerned in my books they are morally corrupted.&quot;

Excellent point, Realist.

I have no doubt that this is a morally bankrupt government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[#86 Realist]</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not know whether the ruling party is free from corruption(but I agree that a million dollar salary keeps temptation away) but as far as I’m concerned in my books they are morally corrupted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent point, Realist.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that this is a morally bankrupt government.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-2/#comment-110173</link>
		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>43) Naninews 

Whatever your opinion may be, I respect it, but, hey, do give LTK a break.
I pesonally think he is one hell of a good OPP MP.
His presence in parliament is good for Singapore, however restricted, curtailed, gagged, overwhelmed, kelonged or whatever the situation he may be in, I salute his resolve and perserverence. Try being a in meeting whereby everyone is not on your side,  the lone voice, ostracised each and every time,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>43) Naninews </p>
<p>Whatever your opinion may be, I respect it, but, hey, do give LTK a break.<br />
I pesonally think he is one hell of a good OPP MP.<br />
His presence in parliament is good for Singapore, however restricted, curtailed, gagged, overwhelmed, kelonged or whatever the situation he may be in, I salute his resolve and perserverence. Try being a in meeting whereby everyone is not on your side,  the lone voice, ostracised each and every time,</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-2/#comment-110166</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>93) btan on October 12th, 2009 5.31 pm WP newsletter “The hammer” can be subscribed and sent directly to your home. You need to check with them.

Send your enquiries to : hammer@wp.sg

TOC should do likewise so as to get to as many home owners as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>93) btan on October 12th, 2009 5.31 pm WP newsletter “The hammer” can be subscribed and sent directly to your home. You need to check with them.</p>
<p>Send your enquiries to : <a href="mailto:hammer@wp.sg">hammer@wp.sg</a></p>
<p>TOC should do likewise so as to get to as many home owners as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Political Monk</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-2/#comment-110142</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Secret Politics Blog
How can the PaP so sure that their grassroot advisors can do a better job than a MP, Why is the MP sitting in the office or do they have much better potfolio so they let the grass root to patch up on be half their job. in this way the salary should be given to the grassroot or we just engage a  Public supervisor  &amp; cheaper FW , Why we should  spend million of $ to paid for their salary. Call this unwanted MP to get loss. Just look at the recent issue Town Council loss million $ in investment, turn around the table U have to thank them for not losing all the monies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Secret Politics Blog<br />
How can the PaP so sure that their grassroot advisors can do a better job than a MP, Why is the MP sitting in the office or do they have much better potfolio so they let the grass root to patch up on be half their job. in this way the salary should be given to the grassroot or we just engage a  Public supervisor  &amp; cheaper FW , Why we should  spend million of $ to paid for their salary. Call this unwanted MP to get loss. Just look at the recent issue Town Council loss million $ in investment, turn around the table U have to thank them for not losing all the monies.</p>
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		<title>By: btan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-2/#comment-110135</link>
		<dc:creator>btan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can read online versions of past issues of The Hammer (WP&#039;s newsletter) here.

http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0602/index.php
http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0701/index.php
http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0702/index.php

I can&#039;t post more than 3 links per posting but you can get the other issues from the &quot;The Hammer&quot; link on top. The latest one is 09/01 early this year which they use a new format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can read online versions of past issues of The Hammer (WP&#8217;s newsletter) here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0602/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0602/index.php</a><br />
<a href="http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0701/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0701/index.php</a><br />
<a href="http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0702/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.wp.sg/wp/hammer/0702/index.php</a></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t post more than 3 links per posting but you can get the other issues from the &#8220;The Hammer&#8221; link on top. The latest one is 09/01 early this year which they use a new format.</p>
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		<title>By: btan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-2/#comment-110132</link>
		<dc:creator>btan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NSP&#039;s newsletter can also be subscribed. Form can be found here.

http://www.nsp.sg/nspnews/NSP_News_1/NSP%20Flyer%202006.pdf

They also have lots of free articles online and mailing list.

http://www.nsp.sg/articles.php

I have no information on SPP and RP. RP is too new anyway, give them time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NSP&#8217;s newsletter can also be subscribed. Form can be found here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nsp.sg/nspnews/NSP_News_1/NSP%20Flyer%202006.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nsp.sg/nspnews/NSP_News_1/NSP%20Flyer%202006.pdf</a></p>
<p>They also have lots of free articles online and mailing list.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nsp.sg/articles.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nsp.sg/articles.php</a></p>
<p>I have no information on SPP and RP. RP is too new anyway, give them time.</p>
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		<title>By: btan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-2/#comment-110130</link>
		<dc:creator>btan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WP newsletter &quot;The hammer&quot; can be subscribed and sent directly to your home. You need to check with them.

Send your enquiries to : hammer@wp.sg

SDP&#039;s publications (primarily books by Chee Soon Juan) can be ordered via internet. I am not sure about their newsletter which only recently they restarted.

http://yoursdp.org/index.php/gallery/publications/255-publications-delivery-to-singapore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WP newsletter &#8220;The hammer&#8221; can be subscribed and sent directly to your home. You need to check with them.</p>
<p>Send your enquiries to : <a href="mailto:hammer@wp.sg">hammer@wp.sg</a></p>
<p>SDP&#8217;s publications (primarily books by Chee Soon Juan) can be ordered via internet. I am not sure about their newsletter which only recently they restarted.</p>
<p><a href="http://yoursdp.org/index.php/gallery/publications/255-publications-delivery-to-singapore" rel="nofollow">http://yoursdp.org/index.php/gallery/publications/255-publications-delivery-to-singapore</a></p>
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		<title>By: Debra Soong</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/no-basis-for-mp-not-to-announce-lift-upgrading/comment-page-2/#comment-110125</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra Soong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#91, well said!

As some have voiced up, the Opposition has still not fully make use of the space available to them even when we consider the constraints.

Why they sell only hardcopy newsletters?
Would singaporeans dare to walk up to them and buy it?
If via internet, more singaporeans may find the courage.
We are talking about singaporeans you know?
I mean we very kuai wan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#91, well said!</p>
<p>As some have voiced up, the Opposition has still not fully make use of the space available to them even when we consider the constraints.</p>
<p>Why they sell only hardcopy newsletters?<br />
Would singaporeans dare to walk up to them and buy it?<br />
If via internet, more singaporeans may find the courage.<br />
We are talking about singaporeans you know?<br />
I mean we very kuai wan.</p>
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