Tikam Tikam Opposition just want to steal & put their hand “IN” for a Get Rich Scheme.

Big deal

The alternative is worse – more suffering under PAP rule. Are sinkees really willing to accept that, as opposed to some HOPE for a better government, perhaps slowly??

No guarantee. But definitely they can perform the job of a good alarm bell, another reason for being voted in.

“As for foreigners, let’s be clear. it’s a problem with no easy solution, otherwise we’d be the only country facing this. EVERY country faces immigration problems.”

Let other countries (EVERY country) have & love their own problems which they have created and deal with their own problems which are non of our business. It is ours that are impacting us more that we are more concerned.

“it’s a mathematical scenario. small population = small amount of talent. the bigger the country, the higher probability of talent occurring among the people. don’t give me the argument that each of us are talented in our own way, that’s again an idealistic and unrealisitc way of looking at things.”

Well, if you treat citizens like mathematics, then the citizens shall treat those policy makers like mathematics (digits) which are very costly by any international measure.

Of course standing from the perspective of an individual who is at the receiving end of whatever negative consequence that may befall each of us in our own country, one should just ensure that he is very much ‘counted’ (maths right ?) in the whole greater scheme of things, in so far that one may be just treated as an insignificant digit (lesser mortal & not as talented as FT) to be moved around.

I just love maths and the whole equation of giving differential viewpoints.

on your who got more motivation crap, that’s why abled Singaporeans left Singapore to work in Australia in the west, in the first place.

experience of the PAP?

As if experience matter in Politics in Singapore? Basically it is LKY decide.

Voting in the opposition to make the PAP work harder is the way because if >1 million salary does work to make them work effectively, the penalty of losing 1 million would.

You have said it yourself. So for incumbent uncommon higher mortals, what do you think ?

That is why we need at least two to check on one another, to blow the whistle loudly if necessary (only if necessary). How are you going to sound off the alarm if the alarm is not even there.

Now, who is the true nitwit, plain and simple.

my point is, we are all humans, citizens and governors alike, all prone to human failings. except there are some humans less flawed than others, more superior than others. i mean, you can’t deny that. is anyone confident enough to say the calibre of the current opposition is on par with the ruling party’s? can the current opposition stand tall alongside world leaders? unless the top pap members defect to the opposition (which would be laughably foolish), i don’t see that happening anytime soon (not for another 2 generations). let me remove the idealisitc notion of politics many of you have. politics is a matter of appearances and style, it’s about placating your people via rhetoric. it’s not about the age old republican ideal of leaders serving their people selflessly for low wages. Whoever keeps up the best appearance wins in politics. just look at obama, brilliant image of brains and style. i mean, that man was born to wear a suit. his approval ratings may be dropping, but you can bet your last dollar he’s going to win a second term (provided he doesn’t meet with some fatal accident during his first time).

As for foreigners, let’s be clear. it’s a problem with no easy solution, otherwise we’d be the only country facing this. EVERY country faces immigration problems. sure, we can curb the number of foreigners coming in. that’s easy to do, but how easy is it to bear the consequences? are we going to do it australian style, where only foreign talent, and not foreign workers, are allowed to work? then fine, our people will do the mid-low level jobs that in the long term raises the cost of living. you have any idea how high the maintenance fees are that australians have to pay? sure, we can have curb the influx of talent instead. but do we have enough talent of our own to supplement our demand for it? it’s a mathematical scenario. small population = small amount of talent. the bigger the country, the higher probability of talent occurring among the people. don’t give me the argument that each of us are talented in our own way, that’s again an idealistic and unrealisitc way of looking at things.

Another piece of sh**, trying to prop up something to the level of the sky and maintain exclusivity. You have given the impression that you are plainly foolish & blind not to see the fact that counter-checking (in the form of opposition) is the best way to ensure “worldly affairs of governance”.

Elite class of philosopher kings are human too and who knows what they will do behind your back – even you, as a common citizen (where your dirt is not as costly to anyone except to yourself or your close ones), have things to hide.

Please share with us your wisdom.

How many foreigners do your political masters want to bring into Singapore. 7 million or 8 million? What happens when the economy is still growing and our population hits 8 million? Do we bring in another 2 or 3 million?

What happens when there is an economic meltdown when our population hits 8 million? What happens when most of the MNCs pull out? Do we have enough jobs for everyone then? Our ministers looked completely helpless in the current recession. What makes you think they can do better in the next recession when our population is 8 million?

What about our water needs? Do we have enough water to quench the thirst of 8 million people? What happens in a drought? Who gets priority for the little water left? Our Ministers or the people?

What about our food needs. We currently import 90% of our food supply? With 8 milion people we may need to import 99% of our food. Is this a good thing?

What about the huge numbers of foreigners in our midst? With a population of 8 million, there will probably be more PRCs than locals here? Is that a good thing? How do we know they won’t form a political party and elect their own people into parliament.?

How do we know the PRCs won’t stage an incident so that China can intervene here? Is it good to have so many foreigners whose loyalty is to their homeland?

Please give us the answers. Or as the Americans would say, “Put up or Shut up.”

Well it is clear you are sick!!

You should be posted your comments on P65.

Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam said ” People do want to know, there is curiosity, it is a matter of public interest. That is not sufficient reason to disclose information. It is not sufficient that there be curiosity and interest that you want to disclose information.”

This is not the type of Ministers we want. We have set higher standards for our Ministers. You have lower standards.

So you’re saying its okay to bring in 5 million cheap foreign imports to take over our jobs. We can just stay at home an collect welfare? Wake up! Your must be one of those foreigners or YPAP. We are not naive as you. As you said you have many things to hide.

I want my Ministers and MPs to serve the electorate first. The may have 10 PHDs but if they are looking after themselves, it is no use to me. I rather have a sincere opposition in power who will take care of my interest. Again you have set very low standards for your Ministers.

Any CEO won’t want auditor to check so he can drain money into his pocket. Any TP won’t want CPIB to check so he can corrupt. Any robber won’t want police to check so he can rob. People won’t want custom officer to check so they can bring illegal stuff into the country. A common citizen like you, if you kill someone, invade tax, corruption, rape, gun possession etc etc. The top class education of Oxbridge/ivy league calibre government will check on you and put you on jail. So you better report yourself to police now what are you hiding.

Our ruling party has developed our nation to ensure one is checking on another regardless are you a behaving citizen or not. Because they are aware that we are human being (are the top class education of Oxbridge/ivy league calibre government human being?), we have the tendency of commit crimes and we will want to hide our crimes. I admire your gut.

As for foreigners in our country. I disagree with our ruling party and I think they are totally incompetent. We should have at least 10 millions population by now and at least additional 5 millions population in next 5 yrs. Our HDB should be worth at least $1 million dollars and private property should worth multi-million dollars if our ruling party is smart enough. Don’t you agree that you would like to see our asset growth?

And your last point which I need to help you on Singapore History of General Election. Let’s turn back the clock to 1948.

20 March 1948, to elect six members to the Legislative Council :
- Singapore Progressive Party (SPP) won three seats
- Remaining seats went to Independent candidates.

The second Legislative Council election was held in March 1951 for nine seats:.
- SPP won six seats
- Singapore Labour Party (SLP) won two
- Last seat was won by an Independent candidate

1955 elections, 25 seats;
- Labour Front won10 seats
- People’s Action Party (PAP), which fielded four candidates, won three seats
(seat won by Lim Chin Siong, LKY, Goh Chew Chua)
- Progressive Party won four seats
- UMNO-MCA won three seats
- Democratic Party won two seats
- Independents won three seats respectively

PAP started off as opposition. Without the foresight and wisdom of our forefather (apparently you lack of which we need FT to compensate) voting for opposition , Singapore and PAP will not be as of today.

So what makes the opposition think they can’t?

regarding foreigners in our country. well, deter them from coming and your income and my income will plunge, for sure. who’re the ones with knowledge? who’re the ones with drive and motivation? well I have these too, but not as much as the ‘hungry’ ones from overseas. they want to make a quick buck and return to their countries. Singaporeans do that too (at least where leaving the homeland to make a quick buck elsewhere is concerned). this is globalisation people, wake up.

to those who will vote for the opposition simply because the PAP is doing a poor job (from their point of view) and putting a stranglehold on local politics, do us a favour and snap out of it. in terms of talent, there’s no comparison. in terms of experience, none too. in terms of quality and integrity of governance, they are totally unproven. infact, the fact they are crazy enough to mount an opposition in the first place is proof they are unfit to be entrusted with worldly affairs of governance. the best citizens will leave governance to the elite class of philosopher kings (or the closest approximation of it anyway). Top class education of Oxbridge/ivy league calibre is definitely a must, and I wouldn’t dream of being able to contribute much to governance given my pathetic college records. so what makes the opposition think they can?

do you singaporeans know what the risk here? we are not talking about short term in 2years to 3years but 10years to come.

we would no longer have our right as a singaporeans our motherland have been lease to foreign country and LKY is collecting the rent every month and would not bother what singaporeans have to say. simple to say he trade our singapore in exchange for his own interest.

if we still do not do something about this then there is many other issue that will become worst and singaporeans will suffer more and simply will be in the hand of foreigners as they have the rights over us in singapore!
foreign country ministers will dip their hands into singaporeans pocket very soon too.

so where do we singaporeans stands? guess what in the sh!t hole.

think of your future singaporeans..,think wisely. think of your own motherland.
this land belong to us.

by all means and what ever the pappies got to say this time let them say. but we singaporeans got one thing to say

WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT OF OUR MOTHERLAND!
this country doesn’t really belongs to you LKY! it belongs to all of us. you are the guardian to hold our hands and we to support you but things had gone too wild as you are not being a guardian but more like a gambler

Mr Bush said: “All of us who have worked with him have benefited from his wisdom, his insight and his dedication.”

more properous lives for who? for the ministers all over the whole?

all of them have work for him have benefits billions of dollars for singaporeans pocket of hard work into lky hand and given away to foreign countries.

his dedication is all about towards his own familee.

those foreign country not excited about his archivement but excited and happy of what LKY is going to offer them and each of them offer LKY to thier country,it is like you scratch my back i scratch your back. money make money. but for who? all this years.
LKY is advicing all over the country with his brainwash tactics..to give and gain. you believe that lky do something for free?? a big NO!

what do singaporeans benefit from our goverment archivement all this years? he received a award lately. so that means he had archive and still when ask about singaporeans future. he will say he doesn’t know and we still have to wait for good times and we strive together as a singaporean to archive the gold.

the gold that will soon drop into lky hand and distribute to foreigns for an exchange of wealth for the benefit of thier own and we singaporeans have to work harder for the next gold.
so we dig the gold they benefit from it. all this year just imagine how many golds have we dug out with our sweat and blood?? our old folk from back days till now struggling?

enough of their fairy tales. we singaporeans are asking what they have done with our money and about our people. but lky is busy with foreign issue and to advice them. still travelling around the world as usual when he face alot of questions he take a break and talk co@k in foreign country. so our money again taking his flight all over the world and yet years and years he is doing this!!

we had enough of his dirty heartless tricks!

we will vote pap out this time for real! do not under estimate us for our quiteness. wait till the day come and he will be shock of his entire life as not only hundreds are waiting to vote him out but thousands and thousand here are waiting for the day to come

IMO, Guoxin is suffering from xenophobia. Well, he is not alone and in fact, many Singaporean are suffering from xenophobia. Too much state media reporting on Taiwan parliament to intentionally create this xenophobia so as to tell people that we will like Taiwan parliament if more than 1 party in our parliament. Most of them fail to see that our current opp party sitting in Parliament, have behave and performing well.

Excuse ? Are you joking ? Sounds like you are suggesting revolution. Or going the CSJ or JBJ way ? Anyway, it is easy for one brainless soldier holding a gun (big fat stick) to control 100 more intelligent principled unarmed civilians – if you still remember “send in the army should there be a freak election.” Now, did you mention excuse. Yes, you did.

Thank you for telling us that it is not going to be easy and almost nothing is easy in life, well i almost forget the ringing & yet gradual distant background noise of the big preaching that “we the citizens of ………. to build a DEMOCRATIC society…….”

I am happy for you that your life is secure enuf to wait. For me, it is a choice between survival/having a real country AND voting the PAP administration OUT.

I agree, either we vote them OUT now or be prepared to face the consequence of booting ourselves out of this island or just waiting to die a natural death.

Agree that we must beware of those with hidden agendas.

The wise man questions all, including those who claim there is no need to question.

The wiser man questions those who claim to be questioners!