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		<title>By: Insights into Parties : Reform party open house &#124; unbiasedelectorate</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-215944</link>
		<dc:creator>Insights into Parties : Reform party open house &#124; unbiasedelectorate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pre-Election future , attracting high-profile former civil servant such as Tony Tan , Nicole Seah(Yes , she was from reform party)  , Having a clear electoral strategy and plan. It certainly does not fail to disappoint, when its [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pre-Election future , attracting high-profile former civil servant such as Tony Tan , Nicole Seah(Yes , she was from reform party)  , Having a clear electoral strategy and plan. It certainly does not fail to disappoint, when its [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 05:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the political debate i saw on tv, pap vs the opposition parties, i can say the oppositions are a disgrace, except the indian guy from sdp. they don&#039;t speak coherently on their parties&#039; policies and can&#039;t even express their well in english. i saw the doom in their future, but now with the above 2, my perception of opposition has changed.

kudos to rp for bringing on these 2 candidates. these young and driven opposition candidates speak well and coherently. i now see the future of opposition parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the political debate i saw on tv, pap vs the opposition parties, i can say the oppositions are a disgrace, except the indian guy from sdp. they don&#8217;t speak coherently on their parties&#8217; policies and can&#8217;t even express their well in english. i saw the doom in their future, but now with the above 2, my perception of opposition has changed.</p>
<p>kudos to rp for bringing on these 2 candidates. these young and driven opposition candidates speak well and coherently. i now see the future of opposition parties.</p>
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		<title>By: revived</title>
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		<dc:creator>revived</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suddenly, national service doesn&#039;t seem like such an anamoly anymore. People in their 20&#039;s are indeed the stuff we can depend on.

To justin n nicole - thank you for proving most singaporeans wrong, about the gen-Y softies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suddenly, national service doesn&#8217;t seem like such an anamoly anymore. People in their 20&#8242;s are indeed the stuff we can depend on.</p>
<p>To justin n nicole &#8211; thank you for proving most singaporeans wrong, about the gen-Y softies.</p>
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		<title>By: Famous quotes - GE 2011 - Page 10 - BMW-SG - The BMW Singapore Community</title>
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		<dc:creator>Famous quotes - GE 2011 - Page 10 - BMW-SG - The BMW Singapore Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by MW   I will vote for Nicole Seah if I dun tua during GE...    Youth in Politics &#8211; The Young Reformers &#124; The Online Citizen  She has a lot more substance than TPL.  Sigh...pity only SDA is contesting my area. IMHO one of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by MW   I will vote for Nicole Seah if I dun tua during GE&#8230;    Youth in Politics &#8211; The Young Reformers | The Online Citizen  She has a lot more substance than TPL.  Sigh&#8230;pity only SDA is contesting my area. IMHO one of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-184858</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am single-mindedly attached to the ideals of the Reform Party and am married to the ideal of reforming Singapore.&quot;

Hehe, too bad divorced liao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am single-mindedly attached to the ideals of the Reform Party and am married to the ideal of reforming Singapore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hehe, too bad divorced liao.</p>
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		<title>By: edwin khoo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-163019</link>
		<dc:creator>edwin khoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a retired church preacher - albeit a
very captivating one.

I can help train young opposition candidates to speak persuasively for the 
forthcoming General Election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a retired church preacher &#8211; albeit a<br />
very captivating one.</p>
<p>I can help train young opposition candidates to speak persuasively for the<br />
forthcoming General Election.</p>
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		<title>By: LBK</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-160742</link>
		<dc:creator>LBK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m frm the civil service, opposition you have my vote!!  I&#039;m against the ruling party not the government. Opposition also part of the government. All civil servants please wake up!! Do you want your children to suffer worst then ourselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m frm the civil service, opposition you have my vote!!  I&#8217;m against the ruling party not the government. Opposition also part of the government. All civil servants please wake up!! Do you want your children to suffer worst then ourselves?</p>
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		<title>By: bipartisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bipartisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 04:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

Reform party nor any opposition has not given any suggestions, namely
1. what should be the minimum wage rate?
2. What about the death spiral as pointed out?
3. Why is there a need for minimum wage?
4. wont the minimum wage cause some part of the workforce to be retrenched, esp those not so productive ones or those that cannot add much value. Won&#039;t a mw marginalize the lower income more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>Reform party nor any opposition has not given any suggestions, namely<br />
1. what should be the minimum wage rate?<br />
2. What about the death spiral as pointed out?<br />
3. Why is there a need for minimum wage?<br />
4. wont the minimum wage cause some part of the workforce to be retrenched, esp those not so productive ones or those that cannot add much value. Won&#8217;t a mw marginalize the lower income more?</p>
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		<title>By: Reclaiming our political space &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-144937</link>
		<dc:creator>Reclaiming our political space &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 16:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] party on the block, the RP already has a youth wing. Reaffirming the wisdom of their party elders, Justin Ong and Nicole Seah called for greater empowerment of the electorate. Justin, the president of the Young Reformers, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] party on the block, the RP already has a youth wing. Reaffirming the wisdom of their party elders, Justin Ong and Nicole Seah called for greater empowerment of the electorate. Justin, the president of the Young Reformers, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jerome au kian beng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-128672</link>
		<dc:creator>jerome au kian beng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whyso, dun be a joker lah. No politician in the right mind would claim to be racist, xenophobic lah.

I think TR is wonderful and nothing as u alleged.
You need to prove beyond reasonable doubt. Else, you technically can be sued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whyso, dun be a joker lah. No politician in the right mind would claim to be racist, xenophobic lah.</p>
<p>I think TR is wonderful and nothing as u alleged.<br />
You need to prove beyond reasonable doubt. Else, you technically can be sued.</p>
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		<title>By: Whyso</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-128670</link>
		<dc:creator>Whyso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the Reform party&#039;s stance on the racist, xenophobic views expressed on forum or blogs like TR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the Reform party&#8217;s stance on the racist, xenophobic views expressed on forum or blogs like TR?</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-114356</link>
		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw the Young Reformers in action at Tampines Round Market(Tampines St 11) on 8th Nov 09. Like to suggest to the young reformers to interact with the crowd. Standing around together to talk amongst yourselves can be done during mealbreaks and like to see enthusiasm in your distribution of the party flyers.

It was hot and humid, however using the party flyers to fan and cool down instead of distributing them may not leave a good impression.

As i had commented, it&#039;s very consoling to see our youngs coming in to participate in the affairs of the CITY, do show your dedications and sincerities in your mission.

Take my comment as feedback, i meant well and hope to see some of You as our good future leaders.

Yourstruly: patriot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the Young Reformers in action at Tampines Round Market(Tampines St 11) on 8th Nov 09. Like to suggest to the young reformers to interact with the crowd. Standing around together to talk amongst yourselves can be done during mealbreaks and like to see enthusiasm in your distribution of the party flyers.</p>
<p>It was hot and humid, however using the party flyers to fan and cool down instead of distributing them may not leave a good impression.</p>
<p>As i had commented, it&#8217;s very consoling to see our youngs coming in to participate in the affairs of the CITY, do show your dedications and sincerities in your mission.</p>
<p>Take my comment as feedback, i meant well and hope to see some of You as our good future leaders.</p>
<p>Yourstruly: patriot</p>
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		<title>By: TRAVEL - Mentoring Women Minority Officers Us Military - On PDF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRAVEL - Mentoring Women Minority Officers Us Military - On PDF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rather it is the unfortunate consequence of a nanny I saw how the SAF officers work only...... continue to politics young youth &#187;source: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Denny Tze</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-112179</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny Tze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Low Thia Khiang is the undisputed leader of opposition ah? Then how come he is getting so bo lak leh? Chee not bad lah still going even though they try to bury him. He has the spirit and strong believe in the opposition cause. Low Thia Khiang cannot lead the opposition to strength lah, if so then how come he takes so long leh? Never see him try to unite the opposition people leh just always hear him being so big headed. Ask if Wong Can&#039;t Sing should resign, his system suddenly went into shock and he didn&#039;t say anything. Mockery lah. 

Aiyoh if only JBJ is still alive. That man ah, steady steady one. That one is the real deal and is what opposition have to be. Low ah, aiyah, what to say leh? Maybe he plays safe safe politics but then hor, does not seem to work so far. Not for us lah but maybe for himself and his party only lah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Low Thia Khiang is the undisputed leader of opposition ah? Then how come he is getting so bo lak leh? Chee not bad lah still going even though they try to bury him. He has the spirit and strong believe in the opposition cause. Low Thia Khiang cannot lead the opposition to strength lah, if so then how come he takes so long leh? Never see him try to unite the opposition people leh just always hear him being so big headed. Ask if Wong Can&#8217;t Sing should resign, his system suddenly went into shock and he didn&#8217;t say anything. Mockery lah. </p>
<p>Aiyoh if only JBJ is still alive. That man ah, steady steady one. That one is the real deal and is what opposition have to be. Low ah, aiyah, what to say leh? Maybe he plays safe safe politics but then hor, does not seem to work so far. Not for us lah but maybe for himself and his party only lah.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>130) Jomin, you are bloody joker. Chee is a loser.  We can take him on with one finger in any election.  He has no grounds at all.  To lead the opposition ?  Better queue behind.  The undisputed leader of the opposition and OFFICIALLY is Mr. Low Thia Khiang.  Please get that straight in your head, you bloody joker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>130) Jomin, you are bloody joker. Chee is a loser.  We can take him on with one finger in any election.  He has no grounds at all.  To lead the opposition ?  Better queue behind.  The undisputed leader of the opposition and OFFICIALLY is Mr. Low Thia Khiang.  Please get that straight in your head, you bloody joker</p>
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		<title>By: Jomin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jomin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we are in force and we should be united as one.  Long for the day when we could step out in force and walk in those markets in a larger force than them.  We just need to get our acts together.  There must also be one identified leader to lead us.  Someone that has sacrifice for us and did much to bring the awareness of the good things that opposition has done.  Dr. Chee has sacrifice much and we should support him to lead us through this. There is no better time than to do it now and for him to bring us forward to the next GE.  Let&#039;s support Dr. Chee and KJ can assist him to form this formidable team.  SDP is in fact ready to make things happen.  Here is the team I think would really make that diffrerence we have waiting for so long :

LTK and Chiam as advisors.

Dr. Chee Soon Juan as leader of the alliance, Sylvia as 1st deputy leader and KJ as 2nd deputy leader, Chee Siok Ching as organising sec, Edmund Ng as treasurer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we are in force and we should be united as one.  Long for the day when we could step out in force and walk in those markets in a larger force than them.  We just need to get our acts together.  There must also be one identified leader to lead us.  Someone that has sacrifice for us and did much to bring the awareness of the good things that opposition has done.  Dr. Chee has sacrifice much and we should support him to lead us through this. There is no better time than to do it now and for him to bring us forward to the next GE.  Let&#8217;s support Dr. Chee and KJ can assist him to form this formidable team.  SDP is in fact ready to make things happen.  Here is the team I think would really make that diffrerence we have waiting for so long :</p>
<p>LTK and Chiam as advisors.</p>
<p>Dr. Chee Soon Juan as leader of the alliance, Sylvia as 1st deputy leader and KJ as 2nd deputy leader, Chee Siok Ching as organising sec, Edmund Ng as treasurer</p>
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		<title>By: btan</title>
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		<dc:creator>btan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@126) Baccarat on October 22nd, 2009 8.31 pm

[[Btan,

Not only PAPpies may look down on opposition supporters, some swing voters are deterred from voting opposition party ( parties ) if they perceive that oppositions are a rowdy lot.

You can see from the GE results in 2006 and 2001, votes for WP &gt; NSP &gt; SDP.

It is better to beat PAP by conviction and pursuaion to voters and not by “surprises” due to certain behaviours. ]]

That is why we have alternative news sites like TOC and TR. So these swing voters can see for themselves the &quot;good&quot; PAP had done, wake up and vote for the opposition.

Already I have seen a few voters claiming they regret voting for PAP and will vote for opposition in future.

We need more of these former PAP voters to wake up to swing the votes. in GE 2006, we didn&#039;t have sites like TOC and TR. Hopefully in the next GE, these sites don&#039;t suddenly get DOS attacks and get shut down. (TR already received some attacks but unknown where these attacks are)

TOC itself also have former YPAP members who now are more aware of the bad things PAP done and the good work that opposition did.

Look at it this way. Why PAP launch operation coldstore and did the things they did to Francis Seow and Tang Liang Hong is because these people pose credible threat to them. Even people like Chee Soon Juan was a pretty credible threat, hence they fixed him as well. Those that do not pose a credible threat (credible as defined by PAP) do not get fixed.

So at this moment, best is not get under their radar. A surprise victory is still best. Let those million dollars sleep more in their tower. When the next GE comes and oppos win at least one GRC...ho ho ho say liao... (best is two GRCs)

Once oppos win 2 GRCs + 2 SMC (thats 12 MPs) it will be success beyond imagination, and those fence sitters will definitely take note. Even such a &quot;small&quot; setback to PAP will galvanise them to do something either positive. If positive, good, we have achieved our objective and confirmed that we are right, i.e. vote in opposition wakes PAP up to work for us instead of for them.

If voting in more oppos makes PAP even worse, fixing even more oppos, we vote in even MORE opposition members. Maybe 24 or 30 this time. Until PAP wakes up or they get changed.

This is power of the people. If only we all act in a united fashion.

BTW, looking at many opposition supporters here in TOC and TR, I see many who are coherent, smart, able to think critically and passionate. Not a unruly mob. If others chose to see us in a less than flattering light, its their prerogative and all I can say is that they are still burying their heads in the sand. In any case, we can&#039;t convince everyone anyway. Just like there is a group of hardcore opposition supporters, there is also a group of hardcore PAP supporters. That&#039;s just the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@126) Baccarat on October 22nd, 2009 8.31 pm</p>
<p>[[Btan,</p>
<p>Not only PAPpies may look down on opposition supporters, some swing voters are deterred from voting opposition party ( parties ) if they perceive that oppositions are a rowdy lot.</p>
<p>You can see from the GE results in 2006 and 2001, votes for WP &gt; NSP &gt; SDP.</p>
<p>It is better to beat PAP by conviction and pursuaion to voters and not by “surprises” due to certain behaviours. ]]</p>
<p>That is why we have alternative news sites like TOC and TR. So these swing voters can see for themselves the &#8220;good&#8221; PAP had done, wake up and vote for the opposition.</p>
<p>Already I have seen a few voters claiming they regret voting for PAP and will vote for opposition in future.</p>
<p>We need more of these former PAP voters to wake up to swing the votes. in GE 2006, we didn&#8217;t have sites like TOC and TR. Hopefully in the next GE, these sites don&#8217;t suddenly get DOS attacks and get shut down. (TR already received some attacks but unknown where these attacks are)</p>
<p>TOC itself also have former YPAP members who now are more aware of the bad things PAP done and the good work that opposition did.</p>
<p>Look at it this way. Why PAP launch operation coldstore and did the things they did to Francis Seow and Tang Liang Hong is because these people pose credible threat to them. Even people like Chee Soon Juan was a pretty credible threat, hence they fixed him as well. Those that do not pose a credible threat (credible as defined by PAP) do not get fixed.</p>
<p>So at this moment, best is not get under their radar. A surprise victory is still best. Let those million dollars sleep more in their tower. When the next GE comes and oppos win at least one GRC&#8230;ho ho ho say liao&#8230; (best is two GRCs)</p>
<p>Once oppos win 2 GRCs + 2 SMC (thats 12 MPs) it will be success beyond imagination, and those fence sitters will definitely take note. Even such a &#8220;small&#8221; setback to PAP will galvanise them to do something either positive. If positive, good, we have achieved our objective and confirmed that we are right, i.e. vote in opposition wakes PAP up to work for us instead of for them.</p>
<p>If voting in more oppos makes PAP even worse, fixing even more oppos, we vote in even MORE opposition members. Maybe 24 or 30 this time. Until PAP wakes up or they get changed.</p>
<p>This is power of the people. If only we all act in a united fashion.</p>
<p>BTW, looking at many opposition supporters here in TOC and TR, I see many who are coherent, smart, able to think critically and passionate. Not a unruly mob. If others chose to see us in a less than flattering light, its their prerogative and all I can say is that they are still burying their heads in the sand. In any case, we can&#8217;t convince everyone anyway. Just like there is a group of hardcore opposition supporters, there is also a group of hardcore PAP supporters. That&#8217;s just the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: rans</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-111978</link>
		<dc:creator>rans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To RP, good luck playing &#039;catch up&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To RP, good luck playing &#8216;catch up&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Denny Tze</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-111973</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny Tze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>120) Nhandakumar 

Wow boy, I didn&#039;t think that I mentioned that youths who are actively doing things now are not getting support and going nowhere. Who say everyone of them needs to go protest to be an activist leh? Anyone who takes up an issue, works on something (for migrant workers or social issues), who does advocacy work, who conducts events based on a causes or causes are activists. Wah check the dictionary lah. In fact anyone who seeks to form a movement or something like that can also be considered an activist. Not only politicians create movements boy. 

Also who says protests are bad? If the government opens things for discussions and engagement, them no need to protest lah but they don&#039;t, you see. It is very authoritarian like here, we have no voice. So by protesting, people exercise their rights speak. Finland is one of the happiest countries in the world and their government just lets people protest, sometimes also takes the messages of protests into consideration and do something about it. Here in Singapore? Pui ah, they never will one lah (and never have).

RP has not even started anything, we should wait and see before going hooray hooray. You think they will start something value added just because they talk about money and doing things &#039;proper&#039; ah? Well then WP Youth Wing is even more value added lor. Comeon lah, progressiveness is to push for change, &#039;value added&#039; or not, if it doesn&#039;t work, it is of no use. Being proactive in a progressive manner doesn&#039;t rule out demonstrating unhappiness and challenging the system. If the blacks did not protest and demonstrate, they will still be sitting at the back of buses now in America. If Gandhi and followers did not demonstrate unhappiness towards their British colonial masters, then India will still be under the British rule. Our government is so hardline on giving citizens no freedom and also continuing with their racist racial quota in everything. Eh you know even the imigration policy has racial quota or not? People have been letting them get away with it for so long time. I tell you, if this is happening in India, Hong Kong or Taiwan, the government will be overthrown long long time ago already. We are always so obedient and backward.

Even when shit has been thrown in our faces and it concerns us, no one stands up and say NO. Please lah, I cannot believe it man. Sit lah and talk about issues but when no actions have been done, all the talk is only empty chatter lor. Correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>120) Nhandakumar </p>
<p>Wow boy, I didn&#8217;t think that I mentioned that youths who are actively doing things now are not getting support and going nowhere. Who say everyone of them needs to go protest to be an activist leh? Anyone who takes up an issue, works on something (for migrant workers or social issues), who does advocacy work, who conducts events based on a causes or causes are activists. Wah check the dictionary lah. In fact anyone who seeks to form a movement or something like that can also be considered an activist. Not only politicians create movements boy. </p>
<p>Also who says protests are bad? If the government opens things for discussions and engagement, them no need to protest lah but they don&#8217;t, you see. It is very authoritarian like here, we have no voice. So by protesting, people exercise their rights speak. Finland is one of the happiest countries in the world and their government just lets people protest, sometimes also takes the messages of protests into consideration and do something about it. Here in Singapore? Pui ah, they never will one lah (and never have).</p>
<p>RP has not even started anything, we should wait and see before going hooray hooray. You think they will start something value added just because they talk about money and doing things &#8216;proper&#8217; ah? Well then WP Youth Wing is even more value added lor. Comeon lah, progressiveness is to push for change, &#8216;value added&#8217; or not, if it doesn&#8217;t work, it is of no use. Being proactive in a progressive manner doesn&#8217;t rule out demonstrating unhappiness and challenging the system. If the blacks did not protest and demonstrate, they will still be sitting at the back of buses now in America. If Gandhi and followers did not demonstrate unhappiness towards their British colonial masters, then India will still be under the British rule. Our government is so hardline on giving citizens no freedom and also continuing with their racist racial quota in everything. Eh you know even the imigration policy has racial quota or not? People have been letting them get away with it for so long time. I tell you, if this is happening in India, Hong Kong or Taiwan, the government will be overthrown long long time ago already. We are always so obedient and backward.</p>
<p>Even when shit has been thrown in our faces and it concerns us, no one stands up and say NO. Please lah, I cannot believe it man. Sit lah and talk about issues but when no actions have been done, all the talk is only empty chatter lor. Correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Baccarat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/10/youth-in-politics-the-young-reformers/comment-page-3/#comment-111943</link>
		<dc:creator>Baccarat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btan,

Not only PAPpies may look down on opposition supporters, some swing voters are deterred from voting opposition party ( parties ) if they perceive that oppositions are a rowdy lot.

You can see from the GE results in 2006 and 2001, votes for WP &gt; NSP &gt; SDP.

It is better to beat PAP by conviction and pursuaion to voters and not by &quot;surprises&quot; due to certain behaviours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btan,</p>
<p>Not only PAPpies may look down on opposition supporters, some swing voters are deterred from voting opposition party ( parties ) if they perceive that oppositions are a rowdy lot.</p>
<p>You can see from the GE results in 2006 and 2001, votes for WP &gt; NSP &gt; SDP.</p>
<p>It is better to beat PAP by conviction and pursuaion to voters and not by &#8220;surprises&#8221; due to certain behaviours.</p>
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