Comments on: Dow Jones ordered to pay PM & SM S$400,000

By: No wonder we are going downhill

No wonder we are going downhill — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:14:45 +0000

Why do you think SG has to resort to casinos, cheap labour and what nots? These 2 (father & son) have smeared the image of Singapore so badly big corporations or decent investors will think thrice about doing business here. Who want their family & children to live under tyrants?

By: Fed Up

Fed Up — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:10:55 +0000

@post 33:

“Is TOC trustworthy?
No, says the NUS political science chairman.”

Has anybody asked the NUS political science chairman ‘is ST trustworthy’?

By: The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup: Week 47

The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup: Week 47 — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:59:55 +0000

[...] vs FEER – TOC: Dow Jones ordered to pay PM & SM S$400,000 – Seelan Palay’s Blog: Amnesty International: Singapore Defamation case threatens press [...]

By: The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup: Week 47

The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup: Week 47 — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:59:55 +0000

[...] vs FEER – TOC: Dow Jones ordered to pay PM & SM S$400,000 – Seelan Palay’s Blog: Amnesty International: Singapore Defamation case threatens press [...]

By: tiredsingaporean

tiredsingaporean — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:19:32 +0000

38) Amused on November 19th, 2009 11.11 am
For starter, the white paper on the “repression of political freedom in Singapore” by Amsterdam and Peroff is even more critical and “defamatory” than the FEER article.

Because the above is connected to IBA in some way, so do you think the father and son dare to probe them any further? they only can be bully to those they knows are weaker party but not the giants.

By: Guaka Moli

Guaka Moli — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:09:02 +0000

It depends on who lasts longer.
As simple as that.

By: Albino Hum, Chief Hum & Grand Hum

Albino Hum, Chief Hum & Grand Hum — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:00:33 +0000

Would Dow Jones write again about singapore when he finally Retires?

By: commentator

commentator — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:26:37 +0000

The Lees have many sources of revenue. One of them is the defamation department.

By: mad93

mad93 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:33:40 +0000

$400,00 will got to Lee family pocket, what they do with the money? They buy properties outside Singapore. You think they give a very damn about poor Singaporeans?

By: Realist

Realist — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:27:48 +0000

This is actually good, for the court case and victory did more damage than the so-called defamatory article itself. The $400,000 damage awarded is peanuts considering the damage the verdict and award had done to the already battered reputation of the courts and the leaders internationally. As one international paper highlighted, the verdict just adds credance to the reports on our judiaciary. With the Dow Jones statement, which would definitely be more widely read than FEER or the local papers, making a direct indication that it would be pointless to appeal, does even further damage. Certainly seems like a strange way to protect own honour.

By: Hong Seng Kan

Hong Seng Kan — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:42:42 +0000

I congratulate our leaders for win. Well deserved.

By: Abu Sarbi

Abu Sarbi — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:10:41 +0000

wow, $400 000! cool bananas.
like striking lottery.

By: sllim

sllim — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:45:57 +0000

XiiAoGeNgEnX #33,

It’s especially funny if you believe/disbelief everything you read/watch/hear. The onus is on the media consumer to evaluate what the information he/she receives. Do I believe everything ST tells me? No. Do I disbelief everything ST tells me? No. It depends.

If you can’t be bothered to think, you don’t deserve the truth (not that you will recognise it even if it falls into your lap).

GABRIEL #37 made the rest of my point, and polishes off the rest of your post.

By: jaywalker

jaywalker — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:41:29 +0000

BTW, he is flying economy. This money no enough!
Certainly, this continuing circus in our courts, making the judges dance to their tune is certainly too much!

By: David

David — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:15:40 +0000

Why must the Lee father & Son company needs so much money for? Do they want to buy a nice burial place like what Qin Si Huang did when he died? Beside, was it because the TRUTH hurt so much that they need those defamation monies to buy tonic to nourish their tarnished conscience and make them feel better now? I hate to think about our kangaroo for misusing their power out of fright for the Lees.. Does that make them feel better when Shanmugan fumbled in front of the international lawyers.

By: Amused

Amused — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:11:08 +0000

Note that Dow Jones did not admit wrongdoing publicly. In future, I wonder what they will do against internet media. They can’t sue many of them in Singapore and they know they can’t win in other jurisdictions. For starter, the white paper on the “repression of political freedom in Singapore” by Amsterdam and Peroff is even more critical and “defamatory” than the FEER article.

By: GABRIEL

GABRIEL — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:50:29 +0000

32 You know what would help? ——Wait for it—— A free media.
33 Here’s today’s situation (quite funny if u ask me):

Is our mainstream media trustworthy?
No, says the Reporters sans Frontiers ranking

Is RsF trustworthy?
No, says the Law Minister.

Is the Law Minister trustworthy?
No, says theonlinecitizen.

Is TOC trustworthy?
No, says the NUS political science chairman.
___________________________________________________

A free media, or what comes close to a free media, is one in which a plethora of newspapers, radio, and TV stations (now internet media too) provide a platform where all shades of opinion can be aired, debated and enjoyed.
Sure, most of these media will be owned by business barons, but in a competitive environment the desire and the thirst to get to the truth will have a better chance of being attained.
In Singapore, where publishing licences are severely restricted in the case of news media, the environment fior free discussion and the development of a marketplace of ideas an debate is not likely to flourish. Over the years, the instinctive ability of MSM practitioners to engage in critical analysis of events, political utterances and government policy has been eroded. Some cynics would say it has disappeared, like the dodo.
Hope for freewheeling discussion (albeit with a dose of moderation) lies in the development of websites like TOC. So, please keep it up, TOC.

By: You sure or NOT

You sure or NOT — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:36:02 +0000

Every single foreign publication is out of Singapore now. So now the printed media is in the hands of SPH. The law requires publications to have offices in Singapore so that they can sue. I reckon maybe they should take this to international court so that real justice can be served. Survey shows that the court isnt that impartial when judging cases align to government agencies.

By: Yucks

Yucks — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:58:03 +0000

Politics are mostly for dirty people. Singapore’s politicians are all the way at the bottom of that ladder. Unintelligent, greedy, and lacking in passion and elegance.

Pui

By: Oh Ma Ma Mia

Oh Ma Ma Mia — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:39:43 +0000

As far as I am concerned, Obama is finished. He did not live up to his own standards and calling. Now I see him as mere words; very clear with his tongue but actually nothing different from Bush nor any of our own pappies.

Although I had vigorously supported him and cheered for him in the last election, I think he will never get elected for a 2nd term.

Yes, I fully agree with “Patriot” too: Obama is shitty, no difference from the Shitty Times.