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	<title>Comments on: HDB Annual Report : Deficit has doubled – really?</title>
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		<title>By: somchai de bomchai</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/hdb-annual-report-deficit-has-doubled-%e2%80%93-really/comment-page-3/#comment-130880</link>
		<dc:creator>somchai de bomchai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, while the problem may or may not be with the system, what is definitely true is that many are Apathetic. They do not want to demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, while the problem may or may not be with the system, what is definitely true is that many are Apathetic. They do not want to demand.</p>
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		<title>By: shendon</title>
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		<dc:creator>shendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZfenD0vyjc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZfenD0vyjc&lt;/a&gt;

Hello &#039;There&#039;s your problem&#039;, 

The above video may serve to prove for you residents in this part of sg are apathetic enough to Tolerate and Accept bird shitting all over their cars everyday and Noise they produce everyday at the following times:

1. 6 am
2. 6pm
3. midnight

Its 3 times a day ! HDB residents here in the video can tolerate the very loud noise they produce everyday affecting their sleep and thus their energy level required for work and the shit they pour onto their cars everyday. Residents can call for help but do not do so! dunno what to do ! or BOCHAP to do anything about anything.

Proven beyond reasonable doubts. APATHY Really Exists!!!

So, should they complain ?</description>
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<p>Hello &#8216;There&#8217;s your problem&#8217;, </p>
<p>The above video may serve to prove for you residents in this part of sg are apathetic enough to Tolerate and Accept bird shitting all over their cars everyday and Noise they produce everyday at the following times:</p>
<p>1. 6 am<br />
2. 6pm<br />
3. midnight</p>
<p>Its 3 times a day ! HDB residents here in the video can tolerate the very loud noise they produce everyday affecting their sleep and thus their energy level required for work and the shit they pour onto their cars everyday. Residents can call for help but do not do so! dunno what to do ! or BOCHAP to do anything about anything.</p>
<p>Proven beyond reasonable doubts. APATHY Really Exists!!!</p>
<p>So, should they complain ?</p>
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		<title>By: There's your problem!</title>
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		<dc:creator>There's your problem!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Real problem I see is the HDD residents are Apathetic to demand for answers.
Not the other way round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Real problem I see is the HDD residents are Apathetic to demand for answers.<br />
Not the other way round.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Business</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/hdb-annual-report-deficit-has-doubled-%e2%80%93-really/comment-page-3/#comment-130876</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirty Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now HDB is also in the dirty business of declaring losses.

That means HDB prices is going up up and away soon.

Why is there no election yet?

Time to vote for accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now HDB is also in the dirty business of declaring losses.</p>
<p>That means HDB prices is going up up and away soon.</p>
<p>Why is there no election yet?</p>
<p>Time to vote for accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: mon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if they can still accept, start the elections now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they can still accept, start the elections now.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of coz you&#039;re deficit has doubled you fool.  MILLIONS from your sales has been chanelled to pay your MASTER HOBBIT !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of coz you&#8217;re deficit has doubled you fool.  MILLIONS from your sales has been chanelled to pay your MASTER HOBBIT !</p>
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		<title>By: Ang Gu Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ang Gu Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as long as the people continue to accept. there is nothing more to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as long as the people continue to accept. there is nothing more to say.</p>
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		<title>By: stupidpapies</title>
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		<dc:creator>stupidpapies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so so TOUCH and crying while typing this message!!! now I realize how &quot;CARING&quot; our moron govt is!!!! so &quot;happy&quot; to know that our pigeon hole is so so heavily subsidize. This MORON govt is known for their generosity throughout the world wat!!! didn&#039;t hear that TH and GIC donated $Billions to Banks and Companies all over the world meh! aiyoh if don&#039;t have this stupid moron papies in the world, THIS WORLD will collapse!!!hahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so so TOUCH and crying while typing this message!!! now I realize how &#8220;CARING&#8221; our moron govt is!!!! so &#8220;happy&#8221; to know that our pigeon hole is so so heavily subsidize. This MORON govt is known for their generosity throughout the world wat!!! didn&#8217;t hear that TH and GIC donated $Billions to Banks and Companies all over the world meh! aiyoh if don&#8217;t have this stupid moron papies in the world, THIS WORLD will collapse!!!hahaha</p>
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		<title>By: Sze Hian to run HDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sze Hian to run HDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya hor, how can HDB run a deficit??? What&#039;s this?? All our $$ gone into the drain!

I&#039;d say we campaign to get Sze Hian to run HDB. He has given so much thought and anlaysis to this and get him to do a better job! We need affordable housing (pls drive the prices loooow) and we want our government to make money!! Sze Hian, I support you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya hor, how can HDB run a deficit??? What&#8217;s this?? All our $$ gone into the drain!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say we campaign to get Sze Hian to run HDB. He has given so much thought and anlaysis to this and get him to do a better job! We need affordable housing (pls drive the prices loooow) and we want our government to make money!! Sze Hian, I support you!</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Holy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Holy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you guys heard the lame news on Punggol 21 yet? Let me copy and paste. Waaaa costs down, constructions down, but everything also go up and they r making a loss. Hey, they r working hard 2 appease our anger now! But, we r bitterly angry becos, more lies again to cover their previous lies &gt;.&lt;

National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan, said: &quot;New HDB estates look like private condominiums, but don’t cost as much as private condominiums. New innovative construction methods like pre—fabrication reduces cost and construction time. And that’s one of the reasons’ why we are able to keep the cost of construction down.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you guys heard the lame news on Punggol 21 yet? Let me copy and paste. Waaaa costs down, constructions down, but everything also go up and they r making a loss. Hey, they r working hard 2 appease our anger now! But, we r bitterly angry becos, more lies again to cover their previous lies &gt;.&lt;</p>
<p>National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan, said: &quot;New HDB estates look like private condominiums, but don’t cost as much as private condominiums. New innovative construction methods like pre—fabrication reduces cost and construction time. And that’s one of the reasons’ why we are able to keep the cost of construction down.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Risk taker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Risk taker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blade @126: &quot;marketing costs, employee salary overheads and rent have eaten up the 143% profit margin...&quot;

Marketing - HDB is a monopoly business, almost every single Sporean family has to buy from HDB.  What marketing do they need to do?  What marketing cost are they talking about?

Rent - HDB rents what from who?  Can HDB rent from anybody else to cut cost? What rental cost are they talking about?

Salary overheads - Either HDB pays too well or the staff are so inefficient they have to hire so many.  They should take a leaf from big private developers in big countries overseas.  They sell cheaper and make more profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blade @126: &#8220;marketing costs, employee salary overheads and rent have eaten up the 143% profit margin&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Marketing &#8211; HDB is a monopoly business, almost every single Sporean family has to buy from HDB.  What marketing do they need to do?  What marketing cost are they talking about?</p>
<p>Rent &#8211; HDB rents what from who?  Can HDB rent from anybody else to cut cost? What rental cost are they talking about?</p>
<p>Salary overheads &#8211; Either HDB pays too well or the staff are so inefficient they have to hire so many.  They should take a leaf from big private developers in big countries overseas.  They sell cheaper and make more profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Chua Mui Mui of the Hong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chua Mui Mui of the Hong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe if LSH runs for Presidency and wins it, he can have all his questions answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if LSH runs for Presidency and wins it, he can have all his questions answered.</p>
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		<title>By: CondoDweller</title>
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		<dc:creator>CondoDweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine if HDB loses money then how are the many upgraded lifts going to be maintained? Expect the following to be raised :
a) HDB Parking Fees.
b) Service &amp; Conservancy Fees
c) HDB Rentals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine if HDB loses money then how are the many upgraded lifts going to be maintained? Expect the following to be raised :<br />
a) HDB Parking Fees.<br />
b) Service &amp; Conservancy Fees<br />
c) HDB Rentals.</p>
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		<title>By: blade</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/hdb-annual-report-deficit-has-doubled-%e2%80%93-really/comment-page-3/#comment-114348</link>
		<dc:creator>blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rough guide showing much is paid to subcontracters for building of HDB flats, refer to: http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/09/cost-of-building-hdb-flats-finally-an-answer/ 

Accordingly, it seems to suggest that  marketing costs, employee salary overheads and rent have eaten up the 143% profit margin from each HDB unit and thus there&#039;re losses.

So now we know how much it cost to maintain the HDB management?

Or are they taking into account the cost of all the roads and facilities built in the neighbourhood and the land cost that it occupied? But shouldnt that be taken into the account of the ministry of developement?  Best guess is that money flows from one stat board to another ministry. And who is going to audit this internal flow of finance?

No wonder the cost of HDB is going up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rough guide showing much is paid to subcontracters for building of HDB flats, refer to: <a href="http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/09/cost-of-building-hdb-flats-finally-an-answer/" rel="nofollow">http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/09/cost-of-building-hdb-flats-finally-an-answer/</a> </p>
<p>Accordingly, it seems to suggest that  marketing costs, employee salary overheads and rent have eaten up the 143% profit margin from each HDB unit and thus there&#8217;re losses.</p>
<p>So now we know how much it cost to maintain the HDB management?</p>
<p>Or are they taking into account the cost of all the roads and facilities built in the neighbourhood and the land cost that it occupied? But shouldnt that be taken into the account of the ministry of developement?  Best guess is that money flows from one stat board to another ministry. And who is going to audit this internal flow of finance?</p>
<p>No wonder the cost of HDB is going up.</p>
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		<title>By: Despaired Singaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Despaired Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end its same shit different day (SSDD)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end its same shit different day (SSDD)</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 45</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - TOC: HDB Annual Report : Deficit has doubled – really? [Recommended] - Feed Me To The Fish: HDB: So where the hell did the money go to? - The Temasek [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; TOC: HDB Annual Report : Deficit has doubled – really? [Recommended] &#8211; Feed Me To The Fish: HDB: So where the hell did the money go to? &#8211; The Temasek [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Homeless Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homeless Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Losing $2,000,000,000 is a very big sum of money for a statutory board that is producing homes year in and year out. And HDB not only earns from the sales of properties. It also earns from housing loans, legal fees, stamps fees, etc. 

Therefore, for HDB to lose $2 billion, it must be a police case. This case must either be reported to the police, the accountant general, the Parliament, or the CPIB for further investigations.

It should not be condoned. Otherwise, next year HDB may lose $4 billions and year after that $8 billions, and so on. Who knows?

Better to do something now before it is too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Losing $2,000,000,000 is a very big sum of money for a statutory board that is producing homes year in and year out. And HDB not only earns from the sales of properties. It also earns from housing loans, legal fees, stamps fees, etc. </p>
<p>Therefore, for HDB to lose $2 billion, it must be a police case. This case must either be reported to the police, the accountant general, the Parliament, or the CPIB for further investigations.</p>
<p>It should not be condoned. Otherwise, next year HDB may lose $4 billions and year after that $8 billions, and so on. Who knows?</p>
<p>Better to do something now before it is too late.</p>
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		<title>By: ho chee bang</title>
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		<dc:creator>ho chee bang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if they lost 2bn, whre then have this money went to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they lost 2bn, whre then have this money went to?</p>
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		<title>By: http://vonhayek.blogspot.com/</title>
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		<dc:creator>http://vonhayek.blogspot.com/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Kenneth

http://books.google.com/books?id=sIZHRDSGiDMC&amp;pg=PA119&amp;dq=IDF+officer+candidate&amp;lr=#v=onepage&amp;q=IDF%20officer%20candidate&amp;f=false

The above links you to how the best army in the world (our teacher as well) IDF, Israeli Defence Force form its officer.

It took them 5 years to graduate as a PC. 

Because IDF believe that only officer can only earn the trust of men and comrade working together that duration of time. Else, it would have an ineffective fighting unit,  (maybe a unit full of air-con BGs).

We learn many stuff from IDF and why not follow them on their promotion system as well, since they are a success proven system.  Whereas we can only speculate and boast how good our BGs without firing even a shot at enemy.

Mindef knows best what is the reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Kenneth</p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=sIZHRDSGiDMC&amp;pg=PA119&amp;dq=IDF+officer+candidate&amp;lr=#v=onepage&amp;q=IDF%20officer%20candidate&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=sIZHRDSGiDMC&amp;pg=PA119&amp;dq=IDF+officer+candidate&amp;lr=#v=onepage&amp;q=IDF%20officer%20candidate&amp;f=false</a></p>
<p>The above links you to how the best army in the world (our teacher as well) IDF, Israeli Defence Force form its officer.</p>
<p>It took them 5 years to graduate as a PC. </p>
<p>Because IDF believe that only officer can only earn the trust of men and comrade working together that duration of time. Else, it would have an ineffective fighting unit,  (maybe a unit full of air-con BGs).</p>
<p>We learn many stuff from IDF and why not follow them on their promotion system as well, since they are a success proven system.  Whereas we can only speculate and boast how good our BGs without firing even a shot at enemy.</p>
<p>Mindef knows best what is the reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Risk taker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Risk taker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, very good call at post #117.  How can we do it?  I don&#039;t think we can rely on the MPs or NMPs anymore on anything.  How can we be active citizens to improve our country?  Any suggestion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, very good call at post #117.  How can we do it?  I don&#8217;t think we can rely on the MPs or NMPs anymore on anything.  How can we be active citizens to improve our country?  Any suggestion?</p>
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