Comments on: How Singapore appreciates a PRC talent who tried to integrate

By: icedwater

icedwater — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:13:48 +0000

@17) QQY on November 23rd, 2009 3.35 pm

“irregardless” is a common mistake many people make … it’s not so much a reflection on the standard of English as a reflection that we are increasingly lazy to do basic proofreading … oh wait, it does mean that our standard of English is going down, doesn’t it.

Also, foreigners should realise when they come in that when they are treated well here, it is because of their status, and to commit long-term to Singapore (ie to migrate) would be a mistake.

It doesn’t have to be this way, though – it can be win-win for locals and foreign talent alike. We need to come up with better ideas and make them somehow heard by the government.

By: QQY

QQY — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:35:11 +0000

It may not just be about grades since I’m sure it’s not only the PRCs that can do well in their exams and speak fairly good English (perhaps even better than the writer of that blog).

Perhaps he did not show or pretend to show that he had genuine interest to become a Singaporean if given the chance, which is understandable if the govt is so naive to stick to their thinking that these ppl are all dying or queueing up to be Singaporeans.

Face the fact – only those foreigners who cannot make it in their countries or elsewhere would be interested to be singaporeans – that is how much our citizenship is worth currently, thanks too to the govt’s own doing.

PS: there is no such word as “irregardless”. Are you sure you went to nus??! Is that our standard of english now???

By: stupid

stupid — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:04:27 +0000

#13) 3rd Class on November 21st, 2009 10.03 pm
What is this government doing ? ——- in one word, stupid , and not limited in ica

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By: commentator

commentator — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:32:35 +0000

Moral of the story: Don’t be too good or you will get screwed.

Loyalty is deemed as folly – even in the eyes of the one you are loyal to

By: 3rd Class

3rd Class — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:03:27 +0000

Let me related two recent before & after stories (heard from friends):

Before the tighten of PR rule:
My malaysian friend successfully got the PR and went to ICA to collect the blue IC. All the PRs that day went through a briefing by a Malay Officer, and of course the briefing were all the English. My friend understood everything and keep nodding. At the end of the briefing, he was swarm by many PRC people and they asked my friend what was the Malay Officer talking about.

After the tighten of PR rule:
A PRC student went through 4 years of engineering course at NTU. Got 2nd upper degree. Got a decent job. Rejected PR application. He was asked to apply again next year.

What is this government doing ?

By: ass scorer

ass scorer — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:52:20 +0000

Each Asean scorer probably cost $300,000 of my daddy tax-payer money.
Compelled them to do 4 year NS as payback—or else scrapped NS.
It has become totally meaningless as tax-payers fund is given away so freely to educate the world, university places is taken away from citizens,plum jobs are offered. to them on a silver platter……..
What are we defending with the billions that we spend on defence?
I think we are certainly helping to prop up the defence industry in the US—not much else.

By: idiosinguppo

idiosinguppo — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:38:38 +0000

Its really a simple thingie Readers.
Either We Be CHANGED
or
We CHANGE.

By: A&E

A&E — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:29:58 +0000

Imaginary Ad:

Employer:

Singapore

“First World Meritocracy”, high Index of Human Development, “World-Class” education system, producer of top-scorers in the Olympiads year after predictable year, facing grave problems in producing sufficient local talents for economy. Needs talents from “developing” countries such as India, China, the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand.

- Singaporean locals need not apply to this ad., but have been told to apply themselves diligently in adjusting to and accommodating new-comers.

– Must speak good Engerish. Lesson weir be powided upon sussessfoo application. Loker teacher will be patience to help chew.

By: ahtong

ahtong — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:44:19 +0000

You guys got to read the blog to get the full story. In the blog, it says that “And, even though he is strictly speaking a first generation PR, he served National Service.” There is so much time, money and energy spent on creating programs to integrate the new immigrants. But for immigrants like this PRC guy who has integrated pretty well to Singapore, and has chosen to serve his NS, this is what he gets.

By: New Era

New Era — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:56 +0000

This is a great example why foreigners don’t want to take up citizenship. The moment you become a Singaporean you are treated as third class citizens.

You are denied all the benefits given to foreigners. This situation is so sad.

But Singaporeans have the power to effect Change.

The time for Change is now.

Use your votes wisely. Become a 1st class citizen.

By: Ho Ching Chee

Ho Ching Chee — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:55:15 +0000

More Money should be spent using people’s money to help foreigners, PRs and new citizens integrate.

the reason is their presence saves you your job although they do not OWE you a living.

singaporeans should be grateful to them.

By: j

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:07:00 +0000

agree with pragmatic!

By: pragmatic

pragmatic — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:03:43 +0000

So… he jumped ship to the USA just because he didn’t get a scholarship?!

What about the vast majority of S’poreans who don’t / can’t get scholarships? Should all non-scholar A students emigrate?

Talk about sense of entitlement…

By: Yamamoto

Yamamoto — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:55:20 +0000

Singapore screw him, and end up doing it to themselves….

how many of those who took the opportunity to come here will feel gratitude and wants to repay back?

In the end, we get people, who after finishing their studies etc, gloat about how bad out country and systems are…which i do agree on….as the systems give this people the chance to screw back the system…and this same system brought in ungrateful people

By: 1percentile

1percentile — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:11:26 +0000

Let’s say singaporean are really smart at 100% of the population.
Let’s say chinese are really dumpt with only 1% of smart people…
The 1% smart chinese will be many times over 100% smart singaporean :-)
All we need is 1% of the 1% of the smart chinese to come over to singapore and within 20 years we will have a chinese parliament ;-) they will all be president scholars… by chinese i mean “china origin” people :-)

By: Plumber

Plumber — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:57:58 +0000

if u go to the top two independent schools, u will be shocked at the number of ft students. about 1/3 in numbers! All paid by govrt including fee, food and lodging and these students just use singapore and go elsewhere after jc!

By: You sure or NOT

You sure or NOT — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:32:44 +0000

There are too many talents imported, one better than the other. So how? Did he get 6A or all special papers A?

PRCs if really smart, are hoping to spring board elsewhere, outside Singapore. Dont be taken in by their appearance, I got a PRC first class hons and masters colleague from nus, worked in Singapore for 5 years, got the experience and move to Washington. Maybe its fair, he served his time.

But once he landed there, he messaged me on IM and told me how XXX is our leaders and Singapore is worst than China ie no freedom, stupid etc…. to give him a chance to come to Singapore and get free education and to learn to speak English. Every time, he just keep repeating those unbearable comments on Singapore, how dumb we are.. “fine city”.. silly leaders… more communist than China etc…

Can you take this crab?