Ms Chow Pei Sze was outraged when she saw an episode of the Mediacorp Channel 8 drama serial, “Daddy At Home”. She wrote to the Straits Times’ forum page on 8 November. Her original letter was 424-words long. After a week, on 14 November, the Straits Times published her letter – which was edited to 155 words.

We publish the two versions of Ms Chow’s letter here.

Ms Chow’s original letter to the Straits Times forum page:

I refer to the 6th November screening of the MediaCorp Channel 8 prime-time drama series, Daddy At Home. I am thoroughly appalled by the instance in which the colleagues of the title character (played by Li Nanxing) joked that they should begin calling him “Aminah” since his character now works as a cleaner.

The nonchalance with which the name of a Malay woman is used interchangeably with the role of a cleaner shocks me for it reeks of a subtle, yet severe, insensitivity on the part of the Mediacorp scriptwriters, actors, and on-site crew. What this instance has encouraged in the popular imagination is the equation of Malays to occupations of low income and menial labour. How is it that such a glaring comment could have passed the stages of re-writes and checks, if any? Would the actors and crew members on location not have realised this during the filmin g as well?

As a teacher, I am doubly outraged that “Singapore’s leading media company” (according to MediaCorp’s corporate website) could let such racist undertones seep through popular, mainstream ‘entertainment’ with a view to profit and gain from what might seem to the company and its scriptwriters as dialogue that reflects the quotidian Singapore experience. If so, then generations of children and young adults who watch these shows regularly have certainly been exposed to potentially racist sentiments that they could easily replicate in the classroom and in their interactions with children of different races.

I remind the Channel 8 directors and writers also, that their viewership extends well beyond the Mandarin-speaking population in Singapore. Surely it was a strategic decision on Channel 8‘s part that including English subtitles for these drama shows allows them to reach a non-Mandarin-speaking viewership. With this in mind, then, how can it come to pass that clearly racist comments are written into the script and uttered before the camera?

Even if this were an ‘oversight’ on the part of the writers, there is no excuse nor any place in Singapore for racism to even be acceptable whether in private or in the public sphere.

I have not been a regular viewer of Channel 8 programmes for several years now, but with this new knowledge of the kind of lax standards that local television possesses, I am undecided as to whether to ignore Channel 8 completely, or to be a more avid viewer and keep an eye out for any future attempts to disrupt the delicate fabric of our multi-racial society. I urge Singaporeans to consider this dilemma as well.

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The edited version of Ms Chow’s letter which was published by the Straits Times on 14 November 2009.

I WAS appalled when last Friday’s prime-time drama series of MediaCorp’s vernacular Channel 8, Daddy At Home, scripted in an ethnic stereotype.

Colleagues of the title character (played by Li Nanxing) joked that they should start calling him ‘Aminah’ as his character’s job was reduced to a cleaner. The nonchalance with which the name of a Malay woman is used interchangeably with the role of a cleaner is insensitive and has encouraged in the popular imagination the equation of Malays to occupations of low income and menial labour.

How could such a glaring comment have passed the stages of checks, if any? Would the actors and crew on location not have realised this during filming as well?

I am a teacher, and such ethnic stereotyping worries me. Children who watch these shows are exposed to potentially racist sentiments which they could easily replicate in the classroom and in their interactions with children of different races.

Chow Pei Sze (Miss)


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91 Responses to “Letter on ethnic stereotyping gets heavily edited by Straits Times”

  1. retiredgangster 15 November 2009

    so in another words..if i striked Toto and employed an ^ahmad^ as my driver
    would i be offendin the malays as well if the driver happened to be from mainland china?

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  2. Guess the standards of the production team dropped even lower.

    I have never watched dramas from Ch 8 anyway. Perhaps with this incident, I think there will be more people joining me as ‘non-watchers’.

    Thanks goodness for Internet, Cable TV’s educational channels & YouTube. Why waste time watching soap operas?

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  3. Tan Cheng Hua 15 November 2009

    The standards of Mediacorp dramas have not improved in 50 years. Same as the Straits Times.

    Guess who’s been ruling S’pore for that same period?

    Mediacorp Ch 8 dramas are brain-dead productions. This is inevitable when you have the mainstream media declaring itself as “nation-builders” fashioned after the dictates of those who rule over them.

    I have stopped watching local TV for almost 5 years now.

    Who wants to waste time with “actors” such as Gurmit Singh or Zoe Tay? What have they achieved in terms of professionalism or creativity?

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  4. Retired gangster, the answer is yes. Buy a dictionary with your lottery earnings first and learn the words driver or chauffeur. Even with your obviously limited iq, this is not that much of a challenge.

    Yes the letter has been drastically shortened but the key facts are intact. What exactly is the problem? I ask this as a non-reader of the ST and other local papers (main reason : life’s too short to be wasted on crap propaganda)

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  5. XIIIblackcat 15 November 2009

    Well… atleast your letter get published, albeit edited. Many of my letters never even see the light of day.

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  6. Lee Mun Wai 15 November 2009

    1) the two letters had the same general idea and indeed the meaning was not altered or changed by the Straits Times.

    But it is very watered down and it definitely played down the writer’s original tone.

    maybe ST had other constraints such as space…i don’t know but i hope that the newspaper will eventually publish these letters as they are so that the views of people are represented accurately. ST’s been too neutral for too long. Time to start becoming a newspaper that has news / opinions that are actually worth debating / pondering over.

    2) and yes i’m rather appalled that Ms Chow pointed out this racist slip in the show. It’s not very pleasant to know such things are actually broadcast. I’d be really pissed if i were the race being insulted. It says a lot about mediacorp.

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  7. Title of the TOC article:
    //Letter on ethnic stereotyping gets heavily edited by Straits Times//

    I guess the underlying purpose of the article is to say that there is censorship at ST on race matters, using this as an example.

    Personally, i feel that this is a skewed way of reading into this incident.

    Agreeing with 5) Lee Mun Wai, i feel that it was more an administrative editing (for words) rather than meaning. Most of the author’s meaning is still being conveyed, albeit in lesser words.

    Editing for word limit is a normal practice. Even at TOC, there is a 500 word comment limit. Which is worse- editing to fit the word limit, while keeping the meaning largely intact or not publishing at all?

    Of course, I may be wrong- and the point of the article is not on censorship.
    But with “heavily edited” in the title for emphasis, it really feels like this is making a mountain out of a molehill. Word count limit is a normal thing- even TOC does it.

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  8. Well, ST Forum’s word limit is 400 words. 24 words off the original wouldn’t be a problem at all, except that here, the tone has indeed been changed quite to downplay the incredulity and disgust that I expressed in the original. This I take offense — being presented as “worried” has a very different effect from being “outraged,” and this change ultimately signals to readers that it’s a minor issue and not one that has severely affected (here, offended) a group of people.

    @RW: Censorship, definitely.

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  9. I don’t think that all key facts are intact.

    1. The original letter points out that viewership is ostensibly not limited to the Mandarin-speaking population and that the least the producers could have done is to have been sensitive to this fact. The edited letter leaves out this chunk and instead appears to suggest Channel 8′s narrower reach by the insertion of the word “vernacular”, an adjective that was not used in the original and, if you think about it, completely unnecessary given that it is pretty common knowledge that Channel 8 is a vernacular channel. Why the emphasis on vernacular?

    2. Ms Chow’s point is that the “joke” in the show is blatantly racist and that Mediacorp needs to be held accountable for this offensive oversight. The editor of the letter tries hard to water this down, allowing on the phrase “*potentially* racist” in the original letter to go through, when Ms Chow calls it straight up racist three times. Instead, it is referred to as an “ethnic stereotype” which, while true, just does not in its neutrality (since stereotypes can be both positive and negative), accurately capture the insolence of the joke, which is what Ms Chow has issues with.

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  10. is it that bad? 15 November 2009

    i watched that particular episode of the drama and I didn’t find it that offensive. In a way, I think this issue has been exaggerated. I understand the stereotype here may be a little “racist” but the dramas in the US do it way worst, even to themselves. As we move forward, it may be good for us to not take it too seriously and laugh at ourselves every now and then.

    Before you guys slam me, just to let you know,
    I am of a minority race and my kind gets slammed so very often with stereotypes. But the ppl who joked about me also became my closest friends as a result.

    A one word in TV won’t do much damage. There are so many other places where racism still exist. eg, in buses.. Just because this incident happened to be overt doesn’t make it any worst than anything else thats been happening.

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  11. agongkia 15 November 2009

    So if I say that my father in law ‘s name is Ah Seng and his brother is Ah Beng.Is Ms Chow going to think that I am the son in law of a illiterate gangster?My wife is Ah Lian and my mistress Ah Huay.,are you going to think that I got no taste?
    I agree that Mediacorps standard is too far away from those Taiwanese ,Korean or HK series etc.The artistes also think and act too highly of themselves not knowing that their acting skill cannot compare to others…but sometime we must not be too sensitives over names.
    My father never call me agongkia but I just like people to call me agongkia because I like this name.I dun feel offended and is proud .
    If there are too many restriction,then you may not get the original taste.
    Why are we getting so sensitive nowadays?

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  12. Channel 8 productions are all for propaganda sake. I believe the majority of Singaporeans have stopped watching it. The audience now is mainly PRCs. This makes the racist attitude of the mediacorp channel 8 production team even more grave as it tell the PRCs that it is okay to behave in a racist manner in Singapore.

    Singaporeans demand an apology from mediacorp. This matter will not rest unless we get an apology.

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  13. 10) is it that bad? on November 15th, 2009 3.26 am

    Please don’t give us more BS here? What mediacorp did was wrong. It is certainly wrong to go around uttering racist remarks.

    You mean it is okay for suria actors and vasantham actors to make racists remarks as well. All these is suppose to help in nation building?

    No one knows if you a minority or not but just because you say it is okay doesn’t mean it is so. I know an elderly gentleman who says it is okay when other healthy individuals refuse to give up their seats for him in the MRT. Does this mean that all elderly have to stand up in the MRT from now on.

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  14. John Potus 15 November 2009

    This sort of thing happens regularly on Channel 8. Wonder if Mediacorp has apologized.

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  15. Pimps And Prostitutes 15 November 2009

    What is the issue here? The racist comment in the drama, or the fact that SRForum edits / water downs the letter.

    I am a frequent writer to ST Forum and I know they are very strict about 400-word limit. Once I exceeded (I did not count because my letter seemed short to me) and they called me to ask me to edit the article myself.

    So I am surprised that ST Forum actually edited this letter and published it. All along I thought they would just reject anything that is above 400 words.

    With regards to the letter being “watered down”, this happens all the time with my letters to – even when they don’t exceed 400 words. Strong words get replaced by milder words.

    I guess ST wants us to appear as mild-mannered people rather than people with strong feelings who use strong language. Perhaps there is a belief that mild-mannered people are more reasonable – and their views will be more readily accepted or at least considered – than those raging with fury.

    As a former journalist, I consider the ST version of the letter quite well EDITED, NOT CENSORED.

    Sure, some details got thrown out and it reads milder. But I also find the original to be somewhat long-winded (like this post, ha ha).

    Newspapers, unlike online forums, do have space constraints. The fact that a letter gets shortened, albeit still published, is not something to make a big issue of.

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  16. Sensitive lah 15 November 2009

    Pls la, channel 8 9pm shows are for chillaxing… and tv programmes in general are quite purposely mindless entertainment. Whoever watches tv for education? But newspapers… ah that’s different.

    Anyway we use a lot of all these words every day without any intention, conscious or subconscious, to discriminate or stereotype. It’s more in good humour what. Such labels are derogatory or non-derogatory only depending on the context. I don’t think they determine whether the stereotype remains true.

    When I tell my son who doesn’t study “eh you want to grow up to be a chinese beng ah?” it doesn’t mean anything more than “eh you want to be an idler ah?”

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  17. Mediacorp and most local productions are short on ideas. Tasteless jokes are what they could come up with? Funny that they still have a following and audience.

    Some years ago, there was a quiz program associating maids with Filipinos. Another example of insensitivity.

    While Ms Chow has rightly pointed out the racist stereotyping of the serial, it is not helpful by whipping up more sentiments over the issue.

    Often, letters are edited due to space constraint and for the benefit of the readers. I believe teachers would understand this well.

    To put a closure to this unpleasant episode, all it takes is a clarification and apology by by the TV PR and to be more careful in future.

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  18. minority guy 15 November 2009

    I am a non-Chinese Singaporean. When I read the letter and found out that the writer was not of an ethnic minority, I was really glad and thankful that there are still such people from the majority race that still cares. Most are apathetic and some are just racists.

    If the letter was from a Malay or an Indian, it may not get published or treated as “minor pestering of lesser importance to the nation”.

    Ms Chow has made my day and I would like to thank her for still believing in non-racial discrimination even though it was not her own race which was stereotyped. :)

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  19. FriedKwayTiaoWithHum 15 November 2009

    I think for people whose command of English is very powderful and very particular with the choice of words will find that the edited letter have changed the tone of the original letter. For the average joe like me, whose command of English is so so only will find that the edited letter does contain the main idea of the original letter.

    It would be ideal for the ST editor to have impartial practices towards the letters from government agencies and the general public. It is quite common to see the letters from the government agencies in exceed of the 500 words restriction. Besides, I doubt these letters are ever edited.

    Hence, if the editor could have informed that general writers that their letters will be edited and show them the edited version. The original writers should have the final say whether to accept the edited version. If the answer is no, then of course the editor will have the final say whether to publish the original version. It’s their paper anyway.

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  20. This topic let me recall of my experience with the Chinese newspaper Lian He Zao Bao.
    Whenever I email my post to the newspaper, I will receive the following reply :

    Thank you for your article. We have received it.

    (Thank you for your letter / article. Please be informed that we reserve the right to edit and amend the text of your letters before publication. By your submission of the letter to Lianhe Zaobao, it shall be deemed that you have agreed to grant us the right to archive, resell or reproduce the letter in any medium. )

    Best regards,
    Editorial Team
    Commentary Desk
    LianHe ZaoBao
    ====================================================
    Wonder is ST also have the above reply to the writer? For most of my articles which posted to LianHe Zaobao, I have no problem with the editor if he/she wants to edit my article.This is because I trust that the editor must have a good reason in editing my article. Also, I trust that the editor must have a better qualification than me.

    But……………….I changed my mind after my two Chinese articles being edited till the content difference from my original content.

    One article was about my feedback on the dangerous of the Chinese new year event at China down due to over crowded of people. I was there last year and finally I found out that why there was a slow moment at the end of the event was because the road was blocked for MPs to leave.
    In my article, the editor added one sentence which was not came from my heart to say that. I can not remember the whole sentence in Chinese but it means : although it will be good to protect the MP safety……………

    I was so socked when I saw this sentence being published at the newspaper. This was because my intention of writing that article to the newspaper was to show my concern of the safety of all of the people who attend the event (there were many elderly people and children in the crowd.)

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  21. raymondo 15 November 2009

    When we want to decide whether the issue of racist remarks is blown out of proportion or not, we have to think of it within the Singaporean context and not just compare it with other countries; say, America, as mentioned in one of the comments above.

    Sure, the US does it far worst, but their dynamic is quite different. If there were any racial slurs uttered albeit in jest or otherwise on a US show, since it’s targeted to an English-speaking audience which is practically the whole United States, it is transparent. This show mentioned above, was targeted for the entertainment of our Chinese majority, any racist comments presented would be ill-received by the rest of our community.

    Think of it as a Malay dude in a multi-racial group making himself the butt of jokes about Malays being lazy, compared to an all-Chinese group making jokes about Malays being lazy. The latter would be less well-received, no?

    Of course it’s always more good-natured, and funnier if someone makes fun of his own race, we’ve all watched Qmar right. But it doesn’t mean that it’s okay to make racist comments on a medium which you know is not targeted to that particular race. They’d feel that the comment was uttered behind their backs and feel more outraged.

    The way we have been racially-profiled, how we have CMIO in our ICs, how statistics are sometimes measured based on race, will always make race an issue. PAP putting a lot of emphasis on ‘tolerence’ for other races and multi-racialism, means there will always be a distinct line between races, means multi-racialism will always be an issue. To compare it with other countries whose approach to race is different is not really a good idea, no?

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  22. Here is my another Chinese article about “Lehman Brother” being edited by the chinese newspaper editor on 5-11-2008:

    http://luntan.zaobao.com/viewthread.php?tid=127577&extra=&page=1

    ( #1 is my original article and #2 is the edited copy)

    #4 was my explanation to the forumers that this was the first time that the editor had called me before publication of my article and both of us have some agreement with the publication.
    But when the article being published, I did not see the most important part being published which were promised by the editor on phone said to be published.

    I did not write in or call the editor. But I sent my original article together with 12 pages of the views and feedback of Lehman Brother to PM Lee. I have received a very quick response from his secretary within 20 mins.

     

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  23. some people are just too sensitive and easily angry / offended at use of words deemed in their views to be offensive, etc…..So if we use ah beng or ah lian, are we looking down on them? better spend time to help ourselves and our loved ones wake up to the real world than the petty things in life!!!

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  24. In future, do we still need newspaper if the new media is so fast and easy to access?

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  25. nothoodwinked 15 November 2009

    Why do we have to blown everything out of proportion here.
    A little stereotype is OK unless its overboard
    TV dramas are also reflections of real life issues.
    Racism and insensitivities exist every where. In schools,
    at work, in our daily discourse with our friends and colleagues.
    If we have to be politically correct in our TV programmes, they
    would loose all in authenticity. That is an entertainment
    programme and not an educational one.
    Wonder why we find US TV pragrammes and movies so attractive?
    Its because they are even more direct in their potrayal of minorities
    gays, the disadvantaged, whether in support or in detestation

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  26. retiredgangster 15 November 2009

    [i] think for people whose command of English is very powderful and very particular with the choice of words will find that the edited letter have changed the tone of the original letter.[/i]

    indeed we have those with powerful english who think that their IQ is so damned HIGH..yet they called their filipino maid as maid…
    wherelese an american or a european would called their maid as househelper…
    so has anybody seen my ^AHMAD^ aroun? i need him to buy me charsiew fun for lunch….thank you

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  27. Why erh prositutes and gamblers are always cast by Chinese?

    Isn’t this ethnic stereotyping asw well?

    Anyone complaining?

    How? MediaCorps? How to work now?

    Too many sickos around looking for trouble lah.

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  28. One drop of rain on your window pane
    Doesn’t mean to say there’s a thunderstorm comin’

    Rain may pour for an hour or more
    But it doesn’t matter, you know it doesn’t matter

    One gentle breeze blowin’ softly through the trees
    Doesn’t mean to say there’s a hurricane hummin’

    Don’t go running ev’ry time you hear it coming
    It doesn’t matter, you know it doesn’t matter

    One little word that you may have overheard
    Doesn’t mean to say that my love for you is dyin’

    Don’t go cryin’ over second hand lyin’
    ‘Cos it doesn’t matter, you know it doesn’t matter

    It’s a storm in a teacup
    Brewing up double all those tiny little troubles

    A storm in a teacup
    It really doesn’t matter
    If it pitter-pitter-patters all the day

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=%22one%20drop%20of%20rain%20on%20the%20window%20pane%2C%20dosen't%20mean%20a%20hurricane's%20coming%22&rls=com.microsoft:en-sg:IE-ContextMenu&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#q=storm+in+a+teacup&hl=en&view=2&emb=0

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  29. Moe Gan Thai 15 November 2009

    I think the ST just summarised the letter. The content is the same, just like our O level English erxam , we are asked to read a passage and then summarise it to 100 words or so.Nothing wrong with ST.

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  30. relak lah brudders and sistas
    why get so work up over this small lilltle thing
    get a life lah

    if you don’t like mediacorp, you got a remote control to change channel
    if you don’t like ST, you can unsubscribe to Mr Muthu your stereotyped newspspaer vendor
    if you cannot speak plopper engrish, you kena stereotyped as ah bengs lor, but are all ah beng Chinese meh?
    if you drink kopi-O too much, you become KopitiamApek, like me : )
    and if I call myself KopitiamApek, you can see I always kena hamtam for being a dumb old man, stereotyped loh, so have to LL and take it, even though nobdy will really know if I am male/female/other; young/old; chinese/malay/indian/others; singaporerean/PR/FT are maybe Imay be even an alien….

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  31. ST edit = censorship
    TOC moderate not = censorship

    parallel universe?

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  32. letters being chop into bit sizes is a necessary evil in newspapers, otherwise it will be publishing a daily book.

    with new media, ms Chow have many avenues to get her words heard, and now it is heard thru TOC.

    ms Chow was assuming that we are all passive info absorbing people with with no ability for discretion.

    Being an educator, all the more she should be educating the young in exercising discretion rather than demanding for an ideal world of perfect information, even if she perceived that it would have made her job easier.

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  33. is it that bad? 15 November 2009

    13) New Era on November 15th, 2009 7.26 am

    No. I still don’t think this is such a big issue. Actually, I think it would be perfectly fine for Suria and Vasantham to joke about themselves or other races. We have to admit that stereotypes exist and you really think these stereotypes will disappear? Might as well have some fun w/o going overboard. Go look anywhere around the world. You talk about having a more liberal media but you wan to shut yourself to what you view as being “racist”. Truth is, everyone’s racist, in one way or another.

    Singapore is still largely conservative like you New Era. So, I’m perfectly aware that my views represent a minority.

    Just like those of,
    28) nothoodwinked on November 15th, 2009 2.48 pm

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  34. Actually I find it really strange how the edited letter plays up the teacher thing.

    From original: “As a teacher, I am doubly outraged that “Singapore’s leading media company” (according to MediaCorp’s corporate website) could let such racist undertones seep through popular, mainstream ‘entertainment’ with a view to profit and gain from what might seem to the company and its scriptwriters as dialogue that reflects the quotidian Singapore experience. If so, then generations of children and young adults who watch these shows regularly have certainly been exposed to potentially racist sentiments that they could easily replicate in the classroom and in their interactions with children of different races.”

    Later: “I am a teacher, and such ethnic stereotyping worries me. Children who watch these shows are exposed to potentially racist sentiments which they could easily replicate in the classroom and in their interactions with children of different races.”

    Subtle difference, because the former shows how our current media is -already- disfigured, -already- pumping racist subtleties into our daily lives.

    Whereas the latter only recycles an old overused sentiment that plays up the idea of a mother-hen teacher being paranoid about The Racist Future.

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  35. Say No !! 15 November 2009

    Open discrimination against a minority race is bad.

    Hidden discrimination against a minority race is worse.

    The Charade Of Meritocracy / FEER :

    http://www.feer.com/articles1/2006/0610/free/p018.html

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  36. I am also a minority myself.and i want to thank Ms Chow for bringing up the issue.

    i agreed with -18) minority guy on November 15th, 2009 11.18 am- comment.

    When we bring out about issues,we would be brushed aside and be deemed as too sensitive.

    again, i am thankful.

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  37. retiredgangster 15 November 2009

    who are you people?
    singapoorium or some damn wannabe oxfordsian?
    a singapoorium will alway be a singapoorium FIRST!
    speak liked 1..act liked 1..don’t be a HYPOCRITE and tried to act classy liked those europeans…
    worst of all don’t even attempt to slang liked them when you are drinkin TOGETHER with them…
    trust me on that..by the way i was educated in cambridge same as laulee..
    so don’t assumed.. i still have my catapult on the socalled powerfOOL english slangin LOT…
    you all har ain’t even closed…want to discuss on rubbin shoulders?
    how about the ambassador of France? how about the former chief CEO of barclay inc singapoor branch…if you want further rubbin shoulders with millionaires (not millionHAIRS).. i also can entertained…
    now you ALL can start issuein me with negative demerit points.. i simply odoured honest feedbads…
    ~zhee~
    i simply hates hypocrites..

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  38. 36) Say No

    Are you a proponent of our neghbour’s NEP racial quota ?

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  39. retiredgangster 15 November 2009

    [i]Often, couples patch over this problem by hiring a maid (full or part-time)[/i]

    ps the above phrase was used by someone else to proved my rebuttal…which is below:

    [i]indeed we have those with powerful english who think that their IQ is so damned HIGH..yet they called their filipino maid as maid…[/i]

    thank you onced again
    have a nice weekends..whatever left…
    anybody have time for a cuppa of teas by the gardens? botanical or fort cannin i don’t cared..yes yes..umbrella is a MUST..netiqutte…summer dresscode optional..coz it near winter…

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  40. Say No !! 15 November 2009

    ## 39) KopitiamApek on November 15th, 2009 7.45 pm

    “Are you a proponent of our neghbour’s NEP racial quota ?”

    relak lah Apek
    why get so work up over this small lilltle thing
    get a life lah

    Just pointing to an unknown fact.

    Did it hurt you ??

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  41. 70) HBK

    thanks for your concern, No it did not hurt me.
    But if NEP is applied here, more than just me will be hurt.

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  42. Playboy_Rick 15 November 2009

    Agree with the contents of the letter………..It was a racist comment.

    But then this topic is a joke…Everyone knows ST modifies the original letter. So why all of a sudden create a topic on it ? The key points are intact so why this topic ?

    Frankly i have seen and heard more racist stuff being uttered during my NS ….maybe TOC should be targetting that rather than a harmless televison show.

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  43. Because the intention was not to inflict harm, I can say it’s “acceptable”.

    Then again, to all those people who say it’s no big deal, just think of a Suria or Vasantham show’s character saying things like how he should call him Ah Seng since he just started gambling. Or think of what if a character were to say another character is money-minded and should start calling him Ah Seng?

    Or maybe it’s also “acceptable” for a Channel 8 show to say things like how he should call him Muthu since he’s a heavy drinker?

    Because we are not affected, we cannot see how it’s like on the other side.

    Try to look at the other side to understand how it’s like.

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  44. Tan Cheng Hua 15 November 2009

    Mediacorp dramas are watched by more than a million people each night. So, it’s not “a harmless television show.”

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  45. Playboy_Rick 15 November 2009

    I did mention it was racist. Its just that what behind the opening of this thread ? Its about ST modifying the original letter. Not about the TV show being racist.

    Thats the main issue here. Most of the respondants did think it was racist. But why make a big hoo ha when ST modify the letter ?

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  46. For people like KopitiamApek who say that this issue is a “small little thing” and others who in similar vein are trying to skirt the issue or just brush it under the carpet, i would like to point out that , IMHO, when TOC brought up this article, it was definitely not just about the letter by Ms Chow ( a truly conscientious lady who deserves our deepest respects)being edited by the straits times, but the deeper issue that the majority Chinese are treating the minorities as flunkies fit only for menial or trivial work.

    Now with the majority 80%Chinese having cornered at least 96% of the wealth here, leaving the minorities20% with the other 4%, the stupid idiots of channel 8 are openly cocking a snook at the minorities, showing their contempt for them in an extremely insulting and offensive manner.

    I say, those responsible should be sacked from their jobs, to set an example to others that this sort of thing wont be taken lightly here.

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  47. I can see that KopitiamApek & retiredgangster are really flustered by this thread. They have been posting non-stop. Guess they must be staff of Mediacorp’s channel 8. LOL.

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  48. To

    Say No !! on November 15th, 2009 6.12 pm -

    Serious or not?
    Discrimination against minority in Singapore? I’d rather be a minoirty then.
    Who are the private taxpayers (the paymasters) paying for mniorities’ mother tongue teachers, subsidising vernacular TV channels, vernacular newspapers, HDB flat, education, etc.
    There isn’t the critical mass or effective demand (with purchasing power) to pay for and support such stuff in the first instance.
    Secondly, Singapore is but only a MICROCOSM of the 3 Asian races here.
    Check out India’s & Indonesia’s per capita income, any gold medals at the Olympics, etc.
    Then check out HK, Taiwan & China.
    We don’t need substancelesss poison pen to write rubbish. Check out the facts first. You don’t even need to be a scholar.
    Discrimination? Most of the minorities are are public servants (beyond their proportion) and they don’t even speak the lingo of their paymasters. Which country?
    Finally I don’t know if you people knew neither the caste system nor the aparthied style New Economic Policies (NEP) is found in this tiny red dot.
    Discrimination by the Chinese? Look at the long, long queue of Indians who have and wanting to migrate here to be discriminated. We only opened a small window and the number of Indonesian maids are already 80 000. What if we open the door – flood. Who would want to come and be DISCRIMINATED?
    Facts & truth demolish all garbage abt discrimination of minority in Singapore. Sometime we wonder who in fact is discriminated.

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  49. 45) Tan Cheng Hua

    //// Mediacorp dramas are watched by more than a million people each night. So, it’s not “a harmless television show.” ////

    In a certain way I agree with your statement.

    The harm is really watching those mindless soaps that uses the same emotional rollercoasters to entrap the million night after night after night., when there are so many other things one can do in their life, these people waste their life in following someone else’s fictitious life.

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