Malaysiakini is only focused on scoring political points, slamming BN as racist without ever looking in the mirror, when one of their own is facing execution, not a single word is even mentioned. Fair enough, it would not win DAP votes but a simple mention or aggregate the news from ST would do.

Instead Mr Yong’s fate has been buried by gripping news like a Malay transsexual facing punishment after deportation from the UK, propogandizing from a government agency (irony coming from a propaganda website).

It just shows that the Malaysian opposition is just as morally bankrupt as they paint the Malaysian government out to be.

I would love it if Malaysia would invite our Ministers a la Thaksin to help with their economy after they have been booted out.

“‘Stomach burst’ outburst merely an analogy
Jimadie Shah Othman | Dec 5, 09 1:54PM
The remark was never directed at any one person, and anyway God has his own way of punishing offenders, says Kelantan MB Nik Aziz’s political secretary.”

Mr George has a funny idea about “journalism”.

translates into:

Freedom and democracy for PAP and gang only. All the rest need not apply.

For the record, I am voting SINGAPOREAN OPPOSITION.

The Online Citizen should not pretend to be an “online media outlet” like Malaysiakini which does not publish nothing BUT POLITICAL OPINIONS critical of the Malaysian government and very little muted criticism of DAP in contrast with other component parties PKR and PAS.

I personally have no problems with TOC’s and its founders’ social agenda; I can agree or agree to disagree. I have a problem when some people are so intellectually dishonest so as to portray themselves as “unbiased” news organizations when they are anything but.

Cherian George is saying S’pore government is not as bad as Malaysia.

PAP sympathisers always compare Singapore with Burma, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. Since LKY boasted that S’pore is in the 1st world, comparison should be made with those in the West.

Singapore has one of the tightest of control of the media. The PAP government through the SPH controls 100% of the newspapers, also has full control of the radio and TV.

There is no credibility at all in Singapore’s main stream media.

Only an older people can be fooled by “remerger with Malaysia” crap, but not us, enlightened young Singaporean. LKY and cronies, face that!!!

The odds are in favour of Singaporekini when one old fart sudah mati.
Does anyone doubt this ?

By then it does not matter what you call it……”Singaporekini”, ‘Singaporekiasi”,
‘Singaporesakit_hati”, “Singaporeada_biji”, “Singaporespine”…………….

The odds are in favour of Singaporekini when one old fart sudah mati.
Does anyone doubt this ?

By then it does not matter what you call it……”Singaporekini”, ‘Singaporekiasi”,
‘Singaporesakit_hati”, “Singaporeada_biji”, “Singaporespine”…………….

Oh by the way, I don’t think Cherian has married into the famiLee, not if I go by one old fart’s rule book…….LOL

How about http://www.sg3k.com

kkk – kiasu, kiasi & kiabor (scared of wife).

or perhaps one more

http://www.sg4k.com

4k – kiasu, kiasi,kiabor (scared of wife), kiakia (scared of kids) .

The trap against us speaking up has been laid long ago, in our climb of the education & work life ladder.

You go to school, study, pass exams (good grades from A-list school prefered). No $$, then study loan lor (Debt trap #1)

Then you work, and have SDU forced down your throat. Hoping that you get hiched and get married. (Debt trap #2)

If you get married, HDB will provide you will “subsidized” new flats. Of course, the larger the loan commitment, the better. (Debt trap #3)

Poor me, has to wait till 35 yrs old before even filliping the papers for HDB resale. Thats being marked as “no hope” case, or worse, a gay (where same-sex marriage is not recongized or acceptable). If I am desperate, there is always the private developer’s choices, abiet a 3-5X price difference vis a vis HDB of similar sizes.

Then you should have kids, with some baby bouns carrot in front you & wifey.
Then the expenses will pile up. Of course, you will have to have a car to zip the family around (read: COE, road tax & PARF value, a.k.a Debt Trap #4)

Ah hah. Then you are well extended, financially and time wise. You cannot go without a job, the both of you, as you need the $$$$. Job must give stable income. Or at least 1 of the 2 partner must be. You don’t really see married couples that are real estate agents, insurance agents, or full time MLM agents.

Stable job that is a result of a stable or growing economy.
So that you can pay your bills.

Whose idea leh ?
Where you hear this often leh ?

Yes – during election time.

Dare I not vote the ruling party ?

Now that the scheme works well for a few decades and the population is greying. Opps, the citizen is asset rich cash poor. Yeah, so what if your (upgraded to) EC / condo is worth almost S$1m. Your bank account is lacking several zeros behind the comma.

Your investment asset – your kids, are facing the same cycle as you are once upon a time and they are looking at higher prices. They cannot afford to take care of you leh. How ah ?

Got CPF minimum sum right ? Yeah, but is the cash really there – waiting for you ?

Sell your house and downgrade to a cheaper stuido/3/4/5 room HDB ? Yes, but you need to wait 2.5 years and lost of face (for a few that I know).

Then panic buttons are pressed. We are not a welfare state hor. Hence the CPF Life and all the schemes to retain your $$$ within the walls of the CPF treasury.

Oh, all these is assuming that life is smooth sailing and that you did not lose your job, take a few months/years of sabbatical holidays, full-time studies of that Masters/PhD or that certificate that you always had been eyeing on. (opps back to the school thingy).

with all the above. Where got time to enjoy life, like the Canadians or Australians did ?

I am shocked to hear such a reply from someone who have gone through a journalistic career before if not still doing so.

you need to check if ’singapore’ is copyrightable and can be used by anyone or is it for restricted use only.

quite disappointing. You never even mention this.

If and when you achieve your aim like us, you would lose your press and political freedom and democracy. Many years ago, a ST reporter interviewed a popular politician in Manila whether they should follow LKY’s methods to develop their country, he replied, ‘NO! We want our freedom and democracy.

On the point about media credibility, which several commentators have touched on, I’ve offered a response as a postscript on my own website:
http://journalism.sg/2009/11/26/malaysiakini-turns-10/.

I digress. I have alot of respect for Steven Gan as I happen to know him very well, but would he have got to where he is today without the likes of Dr Chandra, Erzam, Harun (free the judiciary movement) and at least 15 other major thinkers who first laid the foundation of free speech in Mlysia?

You speak of Harakah, Dr Cherian, but did you know that its influence is only confined to the rice belt of Kedah, Kelantan and Terrenganu? Why not talk about Aliran? Or for that matter the kebebasan peguaman (free the judiciary movement that once went head on with Dato M / So do not be so quick to say, the assesment of the liaison officer is incorrect or to even suggest he conflated the account, he was merely stating the chronological facts that accounted for the popularity of Malaysiakini. He was simply underscoring the many other factors along with the other people who had laid the capstone that made such a movement possible, without them, it would matter very little whether we had a Malaysiakini or not, it would be a still born movement.

You on the other assert the claim everything seems to be predicated on only two elements,

(a) The degree to which the press is willing to be complicit with the govt of the day, but how much more can it go when we all know the ST is nothing more than the apparatus of the state? So hasnt it already gone down to the bottom of the barrel? What is a few more inches?

(b) The political scene in Malaysia seems to be more fruity and this makes for a good hay especially for the likes of Malaysiakini. That is certainly true in part, but the last time I checked your GIC and Temasek lost billions! And still there is nothing as so much of a pip squek. Why dont you pull that stunt in KL and see what happens?

As for the Liaison officers take on TR, I have known abt it all along. When this site first came in it smelt fishy from the very start, so this only serves to confirm what I have always suspected. The trust was never there in the first place, so what is there to lose? On the liaison’s take, he seems to have too much faith in intellectuals. I dont believe they are such a force. But as I shared in this write up, they may be crucial if sites like Malaysiakini is to rise, I got to know about this TR story by fax believe it or not! And another friend of mine got it in SMS that linked him to a thread based somewhere in Albania in a blog selling second hand cars!

Keep up the good work toc

The Straits Times HAVE stooped as low and even lower than The New Straits Times. Case in point: “Marxist Conspiracy”.