“Every year, we attract younger Singaporeans through the YP. We give them roles, online doing battle in cyberspace and on the ground organising activities which attract younger people.”
“Politics comes first and politics is about people, and then you can have the People’s Action Party formula working”
PM Lee Hsien Loong, on youth participation and politics in Singapore at the PAP Convention 2009
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/07/nmp-was-curious-about-young-pap-joined-it-but-had-no-time-to-find-out-more/
wow he’s as curious as me. i wonder if this was the “talented” new blood recruited into the YP. seeing as he is also a NMP.
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/07/new-nmp-has-discredited-yp-publicly-says-exco-member/
Does it mean that one talented person who joined the YP then become NMP only to have to discredit YP? What does this mean for the YP as a whole.
As for conducting cyberbattles, who is the enemy or enemies for them to fight against?
Also http://www.mha.gov.sg/news_details.aspx?nid=MTI4Mg%3D%3D-WczKskRNjOs%3D, with regards to this, do the YP really need to assist in conducting ground activities, seeing that the PCF (should be even younger people featured from kindergartens and childcare centres than YP) has already brokered these sort of activities?
I am curious of the relevance of YP. The PAP has already gotten their candidates from the PCF, should there still be a need to allocate more resources to another when both are doing the same job?
Curiously yours
YP doing battles in cyberspace? Where? Over at REACH and STOMP?
Yeah …. Now it is time for PAP to fix both the opposition party and awakened citizens, and to buy foreigner-converted citizen’s vote !!!!!!
YPAP doing battle in cyberspace, my foot!
Even your YPAP Forum has to beat a retreat and closed down. What kind of battle are they fighting? Chicken battle? Battle of Retreat? What do you have the talents?
If you have the talents, you need not rely on foreign talents so badly that you have to open the flood gate for foreigners to come into Singapore and become Citizens and PRs and took jobs away from true blue locally born Singaporeans; you don’t have to get your ministers to sing praises for the foreigners and new citizens; you don’t to be so desperate as to accept foreigners into the grass-root organisations and become MPs. How many of the MPs, Ministers and Grass-root Leaders of the PAP are ex-foreigners?
Come on, Mr Secretary-General of the PAP, Singaporeans are not that stupid, you know? The PAP is obviously on the decline.
It is only a matter of time that the PAP has to end up like the LDP of Japan. No matter how you try to paint a rosy picture of the PAP, the fact remains that it has lost its popularity of days past and it will never be able to rule forever.
Singaporeans generally want change of single party rule. An overwhelming dominant political party that controls every aspect of our lives is never a good thing for the country and its people in the long run.
And paying ministers by the $millions to make them instant millionaires overnight can never go down well with the people and in the history of Singapore, because the people’s wages have been deliberately suppressed over the last ten years in order to create the great income disparity.
If the position is reversed, i.e. the ministers’ salaries are suppressed over the last ten years while the citizens salaries increased many folds, how will you and your millionaire minsters feel, Mr Secretary-General of the PAP?
You told the people that you will open up, but instead you introduced more and more new laws and amendments to old laws in order to control all of us more tightly than your father had done in the past.
You told all of us that welfare is a dirty word and only pay cursory concern to the welfare of the people.
When Mas Selamat escaped under the grip of the ISD, you told us that “It happened, what to do?”.
When economy was good you claimed it was PAP’s efforts, but when economy was bad, you claimed it is due to global economy. What kind of leadership is that?
And why are PAP MPs being burnt, insulted and threatened by the people? Such incidents have never happened in the last 40 years. They only happened during your watch, Mr PM.
5) Locally-Born True Blue Singaporean on November 3rd, 2009 3.43 am
Looks like you haven’t seen the new YPAPSG Youtube Channel and revamped YPAP Website.
Hi YPAP,
I prefer a people 1st attitude over politics. As a fellow youth,I hope you can wake up.
Wow! that’s a revelation! They are trained to be Stepford wives and husbands!
On one hand, they say no politics in school, but when it comes to YP, they want these ‘brainwashed peons’ to do their dirty online politcal work.
On one hand, they tell the world they reject western democratic values, but then they will send their own children to the top schools in the west. Why not send them to North Korea Uni? they have the best Asian Values in Asia.
On one hand, he tells you that in a meritocratic society, once you go down you are out. And then when it comes to the ceo of TH, nothing happens. Maybe they should legalize nepotism.
On one hand, they are the Peoples Action Party, a party that acts on the peoples behalf hence Peoples action Party, but so far their actions only speak much about, GDP, Growth, Meritocracy etc bs.
Nothing about the people anymore. At most they say they hear you, but then policies and taxes start popping out to stop you. Your aspirations of planting a new roof over your head is the mercy of the wimps and fancies of market forces.
MPs only work part-time. When there important issues like CPF life to be discussed, the parliment house is half filled. MPs falling asleep in parliment. MPs talking down to citizens. And most all one old fart says that Singapore is not a nation yet. City? Country? nation? What are we?
What in Gods name is PAP doing?
So tell me YP, who’s battles are you fighting for?
all of them, the YP seem to know which side of the bread is buttered. If you really want good leaders that people will follow to the ends of the earth. They must be people who must be prepared to risk and lose everything.
the problem with PAP and YP is there are too many safety nets, fat salaries, cosy old boys club.
I only have one life. I have to make it count. I think, I will have to give this a miss.
Doing battle in cyberspace? That explains the rising number of “new” forum members defending PAP with their inferior and flawed logic.
Or were they just playing DOTA?
YPAP battle in cyberspace? what is the fuss? I dont understanding why people here are so emotionally affected that they have to use hash words.
” We give them roles, online doing battle in cyberspace …”
Oh is it?
Where are they on TOC and TR, 2 of the top sites in town?
I don’t feel their presence much.
Maybe they should indicate their real names?
” We give them roles, online doing battle in cyberspace …”
Don’t underestimate them. They may be doing dirty work behind the scene such as DOS (Deniel of Service by jamming access to TR and TOC). Isn’t the TR been DOS by SPH ?
“DOS (Deniel of Service by jamming access to TR and TOC).”
Oh, that is called doing battle cyberspace.
Well just like in all bullies, if they cannot out-talk you, they will literally out-beat you – with a big big stick. Now I know the meaning of true talent.
What a waste of taxpayers money again to try and buy in more supporter when their dynasty is going to collapse soon, or is this just another way of buying time to get away from the angry citizens.
“Every year, we attract younger Singaporeans through the YP. We give them roles, online doing battle in cyberspace and on the ground organising activities which attract younger people.”
DO you guys see any online battles ??? from the YP ??? I must now be thinking the internet is being regulated but not by the govt…. because I really dont see any YP feedback on most forums…. do you??
“Politics comes first and politics is about people, and then you can have the People’s Action Party formula working”
If politics comes first, does it mean Singaporeans interests are secondary……
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Some of you may not agree with me. But I think the PAP or YP’s foray into internet seems a commendable effort. I was watching CNA and it really seem that they have finally got something going and doing it right. LIke it or not, it is great to see a youth wing of a political party taking the netizens and the new media platform seriously. This is good for online voices.
PAP’s convention is their platform. LHL will rank the party’s rhetorics over and over again.
‘True Blue singaporean’ said it all. We must change the political scenario in S’pore.
The longer PAP stays on the more hard life the citizens will have to endure.
The richer the Ministers become, the more cronies and bootlickers and backdoor GRC young “green” MPs trying to engage the people on the wrong note.
Sham….the government mouthpiece and Law minister is one such person when he spoke at the Law Society forum to the New York lawyers. What shit is he uttering !
The youth of today are not the old uncles and aunties of yesterday. We will see the results in the coming poll. Dangling the carrot does not work anymore!!
“LIke it or not, it is great to see a youth wing of a political party taking the netizens and the new media platform seriously.”
Engaging those who are already in a platform where they do not have total advantage. Do they have any other choice but to flow with it. Are they doing us some belated service here only in this internet platform. Like it or not, it does smell and real bad it is indeed smelling.
The key test is still the important national media where the real money is – where their position will either stand or fall from a genuine (not managed) debate on a lot of important issues from the prying & glaring eyes of a wider audience.
Talking about seriousness, I wonder whether they want it to be imposed it on themselves when it comes to real hard questions.