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		<title>By: Sad</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/political-repression-spore-govt-responds-to-canadian-law-firm/comment-page-2/#comment-130384</link>
		<dc:creator>Sad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that we r all here means that the papers are not free and won&#039;t express our viewthoughts.

Amazing right, till now, no reporter comments about our super high HDB prices. Can you call it a free press? I wont be surprised if HDB hits 1mil and everyone is saying, only uniquely Singapore and the press praised the gov for such an excellent policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that we r all here means that the papers are not free and won&#8217;t express our viewthoughts.</p>
<p>Amazing right, till now, no reporter comments about our super high HDB prices. Can you call it a free press? I wont be surprised if HDB hits 1mil and everyone is saying, only uniquely Singapore and the press praised the gov for such an excellent policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Murky</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/political-repression-spore-govt-responds-to-canadian-law-firm/comment-page-2/#comment-130382</link>
		<dc:creator>Murky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let the Press be truly privatized and the views uncensored. that will be the true measure of truth. Those who spread rumours can still be sued or challenged. But controlling the press is not gentleman in terms of freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the Press be truly privatized and the views uncensored. that will be the true measure of truth. Those who spread rumours can still be sued or challenged. But controlling the press is not gentleman in terms of freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/political-repression-spore-govt-responds-to-canadian-law-firm/comment-page-2/#comment-116607</link>
		<dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the full reply

&quot;The Paper mentions Chia Thye Poh, who was key member of the Communist  Party Malaya (CPM) who advocated armed insurgency and violence&quot;

Wow, from a sympatiser or left leaning, Mr Chia is now labelled as a key member fo the CPM. That he was a communist was never proven. Unfortunately dead man cannot challenge history re-written by the oppressors.

Soon we will discover  a national hero, who worked for the Japanese while secretly organising anti-japanese activities. Just like Napoleans was the hero who fough Jones and Snowball was a traitor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the full reply</p>
<p>&#8220;The Paper mentions Chia Thye Poh, who was key member of the Communist  Party Malaya (CPM) who advocated armed insurgency and violence&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, from a sympatiser or left leaning, Mr Chia is now labelled as a key member fo the CPM. That he was a communist was never proven. Unfortunately dead man cannot challenge history re-written by the oppressors.</p>
<p>Soon we will discover  a national hero, who worked for the Japanese while secretly organising anti-japanese activities. Just like Napoleans was the hero who fough Jones and Snowball was a traitor</p>
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		<title>By: MatthewTan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MatthewTan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore – Constitution
Part IV Fundamental Liberties

Article 9 Liberty of the Person

(1) ...personal liberty save in accordance with law.

6) Nothing in this article shall invalidate any law
(a) in force before 16 Sep 1963 which authorizes the arrest and detention of any person in the interests of public safety, peace and good order; or</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore – Constitution<br />
Part IV Fundamental Liberties</p>
<p>Article 9 Liberty of the Person</p>
<p>(1) &#8230;personal liberty save in accordance with law.</p>
<p>6) Nothing in this article shall invalidate any law<br />
(a) in force before 16 Sep 1963 which authorizes the arrest and detention of any person in the interests of public safety, peace and good order; or</p>
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		<title>By: MatthewTan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MatthewTan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore - Constitution
Part IV  Fundamental Liberties
 
Article 9  Liberty of the Person
(1) No person shall be deprived of his life or personal liberty save in accordance with law.
(2) Where a complaint is made to the High Court or any Judge thereof that a person is being unlawfully detained, the Court shall inquire into the complaint and, unless satisfied that the detention is lawful, shall order him to be produced before the Court and release him.
(3) Where a person is arrested, he shall be informed as soon as may be of the grounds of his arrest and shall be a!lowed to consult and be defended by a legal practitioner of his choice.
(4) Where a person is arrested and not released, he shall, without unreasonable delay, and in any case within 48 hours (excluding the time of any necessary journey), be produced before a magistrate and shall not be further detained in custody without the magistrate&#039;s authority.
(5) Clauses (3) and (4) shall not apply to an enemy alien or to any person arrested for contempt of Parliament pursuant to a warrant issued under the hand of the Speaker.
(6) Nothing in this article shall invalidate any law
(a) in force before 16 Sep 1963 which authorizes the arrest and detention of any person in the interests of public safety, peace and good order; or
(b) relating to the misuse of drugs or intoxicating substances which authorizes the arrest and detention of any person for the purpose of treatment and rehabilitation, by reason of such law being inconsistent with clauses (3) and (4), and, in particular, nothing in this article shall affect the validity or operation of any such law before 10 March 1978.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore &#8211; Constitution<br />
Part IV  Fundamental Liberties</p>
<p>Article 9  Liberty of the Person<br />
(1) No person shall be deprived of his life or personal liberty save in accordance with law.<br />
(2) Where a complaint is made to the High Court or any Judge thereof that a person is being unlawfully detained, the Court shall inquire into the complaint and, unless satisfied that the detention is lawful, shall order him to be produced before the Court and release him.<br />
(3) Where a person is arrested, he shall be informed as soon as may be of the grounds of his arrest and shall be a!lowed to consult and be defended by a legal practitioner of his choice.<br />
(4) Where a person is arrested and not released, he shall, without unreasonable delay, and in any case within 48 hours (excluding the time of any necessary journey), be produced before a magistrate and shall not be further detained in custody without the magistrate&#8217;s authority.<br />
(5) Clauses (3) and (4) shall not apply to an enemy alien or to any person arrested for contempt of Parliament pursuant to a warrant issued under the hand of the Speaker.<br />
(6) Nothing in this article shall invalidate any law<br />
(a) in force before 16 Sep 1963 which authorizes the arrest and detention of any person in the interests of public safety, peace and good order; or<br />
(b) relating to the misuse of drugs or intoxicating substances which authorizes the arrest and detention of any person for the purpose of treatment and rehabilitation, by reason of such law being inconsistent with clauses (3) and (4), and, in particular, nothing in this article shall affect the validity or operation of any such law before 10 March 1978.</p>
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		<title>By: currypuff</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/political-repression-spore-govt-responds-to-canadian-law-firm/comment-page-2/#comment-115983</link>
		<dc:creator>currypuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come-on Ohnani, just because Utopia couldn&#039;t see your sarcasm doesn&#039;t mean you should mock him. A gentle word to help him see the light would have been so much more amicable, and avoided this heated exchange, no? In the end, instead of rebutting the misguided points put up by Marcus Teo, the focus got shifted to a meaningless one-on-one between the two of you. Who I believe basically stand on the same side.
Anyway, from the -ve votes you&#039;ve got, he/she is not the only one who misintepreted what you were trying to say.

Utopia, for your part, I suggest you do what some moderators of this site recommend. Before responding to a post, read it again, carefully. Some people like Ohnani like to use indirect free-kicks to score goals, instead of penalties.

In my case, after typing what I want to say, I usually take a break to do something else. Then I come back to read what I have typed, correct spellings and grammar, add points, subtract points, and generally refine my post before clicking &quot;Submit&quot;.
Troublesome but it will make your message so much clearer to other readers, and maybe even to yourself, compared to the one you initially typed in the heat of the moment. Give it a try.

P.S. Ohnani, would you consider changing your nick? It sounds so... obscene in a serious discussion board like this one. ;p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come-on Ohnani, just because Utopia couldn&#8217;t see your sarcasm doesn&#8217;t mean you should mock him. A gentle word to help him see the light would have been so much more amicable, and avoided this heated exchange, no? In the end, instead of rebutting the misguided points put up by Marcus Teo, the focus got shifted to a meaningless one-on-one between the two of you. Who I believe basically stand on the same side.<br />
Anyway, from the -ve votes you&#8217;ve got, he/she is not the only one who misintepreted what you were trying to say.</p>
<p>Utopia, for your part, I suggest you do what some moderators of this site recommend. Before responding to a post, read it again, carefully. Some people like Ohnani like to use indirect free-kicks to score goals, instead of penalties.</p>
<p>In my case, after typing what I want to say, I usually take a break to do something else. Then I come back to read what I have typed, correct spellings and grammar, add points, subtract points, and generally refine my post before clicking &#8220;Submit&#8221;.<br />
Troublesome but it will make your message so much clearer to other readers, and maybe even to yourself, compared to the one you initially typed in the heat of the moment. Give it a try.</p>
<p>P.S. Ohnani, would you consider changing your nick? It sounds so&#8230; obscene in a serious discussion board like this one. ;p</p>
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		<title>By: Yuchengko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuchengko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animal farm - all animals are equal but some are more equal than others. 
This may be a fact of life but we should always aim to make it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animal farm &#8211; all animals are equal but some are more equal than others.<br />
This may be a fact of life but we should always aim to make it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mic O Mic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mic O Mic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore has a written Constitution that is Supreme and which guarantees fundamental liberties such as the right to life or personal liberty, right to equal protection, freedom of speech, assembly and association, and freedom of religion.  

Explain that to Dr Lim Hock Siew and all the other political detainees.

Such rights are not absolute. They need to be balanced against the interests of society as a whole. 

Oh I see ! so I guess it is in the interest of Singapore that we do not have a minimum wage system, while our public housing prices is pegged to the market. It is also in our interest to flood this place with foreign labour to keep our wages low...to keep the best cut of our flesh for foreign fat cats in Sentosa island while banishing all the rest to wonderful Sengkang.

Just as much as the freedom of speech and freedom of assembly need to be protected....when was the people&#039;s freedom of speech and assembly protected ?I do see a lot of freedom of speech and assembly by the PAP and nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore has a written Constitution that is Supreme and which guarantees fundamental liberties such as the right to life or personal liberty, right to equal protection, freedom of speech, assembly and association, and freedom of religion.  </p>
<p>Explain that to Dr Lim Hock Siew and all the other political detainees.</p>
<p>Such rights are not absolute. They need to be balanced against the interests of society as a whole. </p>
<p>Oh I see ! so I guess it is in the interest of Singapore that we do not have a minimum wage system, while our public housing prices is pegged to the market. It is also in our interest to flood this place with foreign labour to keep our wages low&#8230;to keep the best cut of our flesh for foreign fat cats in Sentosa island while banishing all the rest to wonderful Sengkang.</p>
<p>Just as much as the freedom of speech and freedom of assembly need to be protected&#8230;.when was the people&#8217;s freedom of speech and assembly protected ?I do see a lot of freedom of speech and assembly by the PAP and nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/political-repression-spore-govt-responds-to-canadian-law-firm/comment-page-2/#comment-115632</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it amusing that the Singapore government actually took the effort to respond to the so called white paper.  The white paper hardly registers on search engines to begin with. By taking such accusations so seriously, the government has unwittingly lent credence to the accuser. Perhaps this is done for domestic consumption. But sadly it will not work on the world stage and they knew it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it amusing that the Singapore government actually took the effort to respond to the so called white paper.  The white paper hardly registers on search engines to begin with. By taking such accusations so seriously, the government has unwittingly lent credence to the accuser. Perhaps this is done for domestic consumption. But sadly it will not work on the world stage and they knew it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History will be kind to us, for we intend to write it , so says mafia. It is and will always be &quot;godly&quot; laws that rule mafia kingdom on earth. Who believes them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History will be kind to us, for we intend to write it , so says mafia. It is and will always be &#8220;godly&#8221; laws that rule mafia kingdom on earth. Who believes them?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremia Au Yeng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremia Au Yeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since i do not think there&#039;s anything wrong with the film, i searched and found this url showing the films:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8001207403001272754#</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since i do not think there&#8217;s anything wrong with the film, i searched and found this url showing the films:</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8001207403001272754#" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8001207403001272754#</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremia Au Yeng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/political-repression-spore-govt-responds-to-canadian-law-firm/comment-page-2/#comment-115530</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremia Au Yeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNA broadcast part 2 of the film &quot;Truth about democracy&quot; today.

The message  I got from this film, imho, is that democracy is not all good.

I wonder why they showed it?

I am not saying there is propaganda . I am saying a question.

To clarify , there is surely no propagani.

But i assume u believe me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNA broadcast part 2 of the film &#8220;Truth about democracy&#8221; today.</p>
<p>The message  I got from this film, imho, is that democracy is not all good.</p>
<p>I wonder why they showed it?</p>
<p>I am not saying there is propaganda . I am saying a question.</p>
<p>To clarify , there is surely no propagani.</p>
<p>But i assume u believe me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utopia on November 14th, 2009 12.47 pm -

&quot;enable USA to have democracy and rule of Law&quot;

Sure or not? Where is your economic &amp; political depth. Don&#039;t gleam the surface.

Question time - Who was the blowjob man given a second term of office?

Q2. Who puts people without a trial in Guantanamo?

Q3. Who behaves like a bully and invade without UN sanction from Iraq to Afganistan?:

Q4. 

Q5.

I&#039;ve more but I don&#039;t think you have university brains to answer. So I&#039;ll just shut up for now.

Please no rubbish. We&#039;re intelligent readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utopia on November 14th, 2009 12.47 pm -</p>
<p>&#8220;enable USA to have democracy and rule of Law&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure or not? Where is your economic &amp; political depth. Don&#8217;t gleam the surface.</p>
<p>Question time &#8211; Who was the blowjob man given a second term of office?</p>
<p>Q2. Who puts people without a trial in Guantanamo?</p>
<p>Q3. Who behaves like a bully and invade without UN sanction from Iraq to Afganistan?:</p>
<p>Q4. </p>
<p>Q5.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve more but I don&#8217;t think you have university brains to answer. So I&#8217;ll just shut up for now.</p>
<p>Please no rubbish. We&#8217;re intelligent readers.</p>
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		<title>By: collada spukum</title>
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		<dc:creator>collada spukum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is evidence to suggest that political system is not mutually inclusive of the economy.

HK, TW, SKorea are all one of the Asian Dragons. Their political systems are closer to western democracy than authoritarian democracy.

These countries are way way much much larger than singapore and thus that much more difficult to control and manage . Yet, they did it and achieveing great economic success. 

Japan and China are super powers and yet they do not have authoritarian democracy since china is a communist country, correct me if wrong, while Japan can boast a vibrant democracy.

Can some one rebut me if democracy is mutually inclusive or exclusive of political system?

What if a country changes its political system towards western Democracy that even Reagan and Obama and Clinton can be proud of?

In my view, life goes on and could even be better. But one thingie is for sure. Economy should continue to run if not improve.

anyone who objects my views, simply rebut. Else i take it as silence means acceptance which many singaporeans practice quite a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is evidence to suggest that political system is not mutually inclusive of the economy.</p>
<p>HK, TW, SKorea are all one of the Asian Dragons. Their political systems are closer to western democracy than authoritarian democracy.</p>
<p>These countries are way way much much larger than singapore and thus that much more difficult to control and manage . Yet, they did it and achieveing great economic success. </p>
<p>Japan and China are super powers and yet they do not have authoritarian democracy since china is a communist country, correct me if wrong, while Japan can boast a vibrant democracy.</p>
<p>Can some one rebut me if democracy is mutually inclusive or exclusive of political system?</p>
<p>What if a country changes its political system towards western Democracy that even Reagan and Obama and Clinton can be proud of?</p>
<p>In my view, life goes on and could even be better. But one thingie is for sure. Economy should continue to run if not improve.</p>
<p>anyone who objects my views, simply rebut. Else i take it as silence means acceptance which many singaporeans practice quite a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohnani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utopia,

This is what i like about you

&quot;Beside, some commenters just love talking and answering themselves using multiple nicks.&quot;

How clairvoyant you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utopia,</p>
<p>This is what i like about you</p>
<p>&#8220;Beside, some commenters just love talking and answering themselves using multiple nicks.&#8221;</p>
<p>How clairvoyant you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumseng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sumseng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come no comments from the WP&#039;s Low &amp; Sylvia Lim; SPP&#039;s Chiam; Viswa etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come no comments from the WP&#8217;s Low &amp; Sylvia Lim; SPP&#8217;s Chiam; Viswa etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Utopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Utopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; You won’t find any opposition leaders from Europe or N America doing this kind of running dog business.&quot;

Of course you won&#039;t find opp leader doing that since the people and their law and culture already enable USA to have democracy and rule of Law. Why seek other foreigner country&#039;s help if they can do it themselves ? If Singaporeans capable of doing it themselves, why the silence and anonymous when our clowns screw up big times ? You means that Singaporeans approve the honest mistakes of Pappy by their silence and apathy ? 

Beside, some commenters just love talking and answering themselves using multiple nicks. Go GeyLang if you are lonely and pervert, not TOC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; You won’t find any opposition leaders from Europe or N America doing this kind of running dog business.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course you won&#8217;t find opp leader doing that since the people and their law and culture already enable USA to have democracy and rule of Law. Why seek other foreigner country&#8217;s help if they can do it themselves ? If Singaporeans capable of doing it themselves, why the silence and anonymous when our clowns screw up big times ? You means that Singaporeans approve the honest mistakes of Pappy by their silence and apathy ? </p>
<p>Beside, some commenters just love talking and answering themselves using multiple nicks. Go GeyLang if you are lonely and pervert, not TOC.</p>
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		<title>By: Popeye H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Popeye H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pointer Sisters on November 14th, 2009 2.12 am 

Easier said than done. Right?

Look at Thailand - paralized. This is the real thing amongst Asians let alone the Japanese (homogenous people) who would let the winners govern smoothly till the next election or in the US where the winner in Black Obama govern and the Republicans stay low till the next election where the people can then decide if they have benifitted from the rule to continue with the Democracts. Only inferior people go round shopping for outside support to try and destro their own country lik the Mr Chee Bxx. You won&#039;t find any opposition leaders from Europe or N America doing this kind of running dog business.

This is sportsmanship. There is no need to convince the people. They are matured and smart. In a democracy the people decide.

Oposition fearing losing their deposits also give walkovers by staying away from wards which they think they have no chance of winning at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pointer Sisters on November 14th, 2009 2.12 am </p>
<p>Easier said than done. Right?</p>
<p>Look at Thailand &#8211; paralized. This is the real thing amongst Asians let alone the Japanese (homogenous people) who would let the winners govern smoothly till the next election or in the US where the winner in Black Obama govern and the Republicans stay low till the next election where the people can then decide if they have benifitted from the rule to continue with the Democracts. Only inferior people go round shopping for outside support to try and destro their own country lik the Mr Chee Bxx. You won&#8217;t find any opposition leaders from Europe or N America doing this kind of running dog business.</p>
<p>This is sportsmanship. There is no need to convince the people. They are matured and smart. In a democracy the people decide.</p>
<p>Oposition fearing losing their deposits also give walkovers by staying away from wards which they think they have no chance of winning at all.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pointer Sisters</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Pointer Sisters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is in response to the post number 24  about the miserable family experience. 

In the example cited, to maximize aggregate satisfaction and time, each member of the family should pursue his or her own actions independent of the others. 

What utility is there for Mother, Daughter and Son to accompany and watch Daddy play mahjong with his kakis?  Mahjong is not a spectator sport. Daddy&#039;s friends will be uncomfortable with 3 of his blood kin loitering around the table. They may even suspect that  mother and  the children are peering at their tiles and secretly sending coded messages to Daddy to give him an unfair advantage. Daddy&#039;s standing among his friends will diminish as a result.

At one extreme, if Daddy invokes his traditional role as head of the family and coerces the family as postulated by Ohnani in post number 31, the level of collective unhappiness can only increase. 

Assuming that  Daddy plays regular overnight mahjong sessions, something has got to give. The long suffering wife and children may decide that enough is enough and walk out of the home. If the wife becomes mentally deranged due to prolonged sleep deprivation, out of resentment she may even start spiking Daddy&#039;s food with arsenic or rat poison.

The true determinant of happiness is for the family to have quality time together. Quality implies that what matters is not so much the amount of time the members spend together but what they do with the limited time they have together.  Let&#039;s face it, in today&#039;s society  there will never be enough time even if there are 36 hours in a day. Happiness also requires a spirit of give and take - each family member must compromise a little to bring this about.

As a suggestion, on the mahjong-Orchard shopping-chalet-surf the net day, before starting out on each seperate activity, the family could have breakfast  together where all members make it a point to communicate with one another instead of being pre-occupied by the newspaper or texting SMSes etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in response to the post number 24  about the miserable family experience. </p>
<p>In the example cited, to maximize aggregate satisfaction and time, each member of the family should pursue his or her own actions independent of the others. </p>
<p>What utility is there for Mother, Daughter and Son to accompany and watch Daddy play mahjong with his kakis?  Mahjong is not a spectator sport. Daddy&#8217;s friends will be uncomfortable with 3 of his blood kin loitering around the table. They may even suspect that  mother and  the children are peering at their tiles and secretly sending coded messages to Daddy to give him an unfair advantage. Daddy&#8217;s standing among his friends will diminish as a result.</p>
<p>At one extreme, if Daddy invokes his traditional role as head of the family and coerces the family as postulated by Ohnani in post number 31, the level of collective unhappiness can only increase. </p>
<p>Assuming that  Daddy plays regular overnight mahjong sessions, something has got to give. The long suffering wife and children may decide that enough is enough and walk out of the home. If the wife becomes mentally deranged due to prolonged sleep deprivation, out of resentment she may even start spiking Daddy&#8217;s food with arsenic or rat poison.</p>
<p>The true determinant of happiness is for the family to have quality time together. Quality implies that what matters is not so much the amount of time the members spend together but what they do with the limited time they have together.  Let&#8217;s face it, in today&#8217;s society  there will never be enough time even if there are 36 hours in a day. Happiness also requires a spirit of give and take &#8211; each family member must compromise a little to bring this about.</p>
<p>As a suggestion, on the mahjong-Orchard shopping-chalet-surf the net day, before starting out on each seperate activity, the family could have breakfast  together where all members make it a point to communicate with one another instead of being pre-occupied by the newspaper or texting SMSes etc.</p>
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		<title>By: nonsense</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the current US alien movie &quot;The Fourth Encounter&quot;, Singapore has reached the critical point in making political history. 

1st Encounter  : 
- Singapore &quot;hears&quot; sightings of an &quot;inhuman alien presence&quot; in power.

2nd Encounter :
- Singapore gathers evidence of alien abuse (CPF freeze, high taxes, ever-rising Cost of Living, Temasek debacle, Mas Selamat Sabbatical..etc)

3rd Encounter :
- Singapore makes contact and engages alien power publicly; through New and Old media, and thru&#039; oppressed oppositions, to lodge protests.

4th Encounter :
- Alien power abducts the will of the people and launches an attack, by slowly bankrupting the population and implementing martial law.

5th Encounter :
- Death of a nation, country, city...er...no? Red dot?. Rise of a revolution- The Chronicles of pissed local talent +foreign labour against tyranny.
(Singapore edited version: Death of a Slowly wait long long bankrupt company-no sequel la cos no more funds!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the current US alien movie &#8220;The Fourth Encounter&#8221;, Singapore has reached the critical point in making political history. </p>
<p>1st Encounter  :<br />
- Singapore &#8220;hears&#8221; sightings of an &#8220;inhuman alien presence&#8221; in power.</p>
<p>2nd Encounter :<br />
- Singapore gathers evidence of alien abuse (CPF freeze, high taxes, ever-rising Cost of Living, Temasek debacle, Mas Selamat Sabbatical..etc)</p>
<p>3rd Encounter :<br />
- Singapore makes contact and engages alien power publicly; through New and Old media, and thru&#8217; oppressed oppositions, to lodge protests.</p>
<p>4th Encounter :<br />
- Alien power abducts the will of the people and launches an attack, by slowly bankrupting the population and implementing martial law.</p>
<p>5th Encounter :<br />
- Death of a nation, country, city&#8230;er&#8230;no? Red dot?. Rise of a revolution- The Chronicles of pissed local talent +foreign labour against tyranny.<br />
(Singapore edited version: Death of a Slowly wait long long bankrupt company-no sequel la cos no more funds!)</p>
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