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	<title>Comments on: President rejects clemency petition for Yong Vui Kong</title>
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		<title>By: A. Expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people write here that a guy of 19 years need a second chance. If you start to give these young men a second chance... the drug lords will send only 19 years drug traffickers to Singapore. They will tell to these 19 years traffickers that they don&#039;t have to worry.... you get a second chance...

With hanging up this criminal, Singapore shows a very clear signal to any 19 year old wannabee trafficker that they could be hang too when caught.... drug lords have now harder time to find people to do their shit jobs...

&gt; PUGDRAGON - trying to be sarcastic? Most Singaporeans are pro-death-penalty... simply because they don&#039;t want that their country will be unsafe as most other SE-Asian countries with higher drugs problems... we all want that our kids can be safe on the streets, that can be in Singapore and we like to keep it onthat way...

Anyone who enters Singapore KNOWS that you get the death penalty! You are warned with a few signs and in RED on the immigration card. If you decide at the border as drugs trafficker still to smuggle the shit inside Singapore... then is that your OWN DECISION AND RISK... and you have to life with the consequences. 

I am original from the EU and we don&#039;t have the death penalty. It is common knowledge that the majority of the European people are in favour of the death penalty. The reality is that most big cities in Europe have bad suburbs what is controlled by immigrants and drug lords. Cities such as Frankfurt, Paris, Rotterdam, London and Brussels. Drug traffickers and lords shooting on each other in daylight to get control of each other areas. That is the hard reality. Since the borders are open between the EU countries, crime rate has raised with 800%. The most drug lords and traffickers are from Servia, Bulgaria, Romania and Albania... immigrants from corrupt countries who don&#039;t respect the law!!!!
These people are get now arrested, one year in the jail and then on the plane back deported to their own countries. Three days later they are back and the game start over again... My country has a weekly scheduled flight to Bulgaria to put criminals out of the country.... each week 150 people!!!!!!!!.....

Give me then the Singaporean system... LOVE IT!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people write here that a guy of 19 years need a second chance. If you start to give these young men a second chance&#8230; the drug lords will send only 19 years drug traffickers to Singapore. They will tell to these 19 years traffickers that they don&#8217;t have to worry&#8230;. you get a second chance&#8230;</p>
<p>With hanging up this criminal, Singapore shows a very clear signal to any 19 year old wannabee trafficker that they could be hang too when caught&#8230;. drug lords have now harder time to find people to do their shit jobs&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt; PUGDRAGON &#8211; trying to be sarcastic? Most Singaporeans are pro-death-penalty&#8230; simply because they don&#8217;t want that their country will be unsafe as most other SE-Asian countries with higher drugs problems&#8230; we all want that our kids can be safe on the streets, that can be in Singapore and we like to keep it onthat way&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyone who enters Singapore KNOWS that you get the death penalty! You are warned with a few signs and in RED on the immigration card. If you decide at the border as drugs trafficker still to smuggle the shit inside Singapore&#8230; then is that your OWN DECISION AND RISK&#8230; and you have to life with the consequences. </p>
<p>I am original from the EU and we don&#8217;t have the death penalty. It is common knowledge that the majority of the European people are in favour of the death penalty. The reality is that most big cities in Europe have bad suburbs what is controlled by immigrants and drug lords. Cities such as Frankfurt, Paris, Rotterdam, London and Brussels. Drug traffickers and lords shooting on each other in daylight to get control of each other areas. That is the hard reality. Since the borders are open between the EU countries, crime rate has raised with 800%. The most drug lords and traffickers are from Servia, Bulgaria, Romania and Albania&#8230; immigrants from corrupt countries who don&#8217;t respect the law!!!!<br />
These people are get now arrested, one year in the jail and then on the plane back deported to their own countries. Three days later they are back and the game start over again&#8230; My country has a weekly scheduled flight to Bulgaria to put criminals out of the country&#8230;. each week 150 people!!!!!!!!&#8230;..</p>
<p>Give me then the Singaporean system&#8230; LOVE IT!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: victor tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>victor tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is drug addiction so bad? People are addicted to all sorts of things nowadays. Porn, cigarrettes, alcohol. Why is only drug illegal? People who take drugs eventually succumb to many problems - true. They may become hardcore criminals, snatch thief to fuel their habits. All true.

But drug is just one of the many vices possible in men. To stop drug use, start by educating youngsters. Ultimately it is them who choose which path to take - the path to destruction or success in life.

Life is precious. God put us here to help each other and treat each other with dignity. At 19 years old, Yong is a first time offender ( in drugs). He should at least have the chance to reflect on his mistakes in jail instead of being killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is drug addiction so bad? People are addicted to all sorts of things nowadays. Porn, cigarrettes, alcohol. Why is only drug illegal? People who take drugs eventually succumb to many problems &#8211; true. They may become hardcore criminals, snatch thief to fuel their habits. All true.</p>
<p>But drug is just one of the many vices possible in men. To stop drug use, start by educating youngsters. Ultimately it is them who choose which path to take &#8211; the path to destruction or success in life.</p>
<p>Life is precious. God put us here to help each other and treat each other with dignity. At 19 years old, Yong is a first time offender ( in drugs). He should at least have the chance to reflect on his mistakes in jail instead of being killed.</p>
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		<title>By: pugdragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>pugdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are people who support the death penalty devoid of intelligence &amp; morals or bribed by the standing authorities? Seriously, it&#039;s incredible in this day &amp; age that people still find murder &quot;righteous&quot;. 

Wait a minute... There are too many pro-death-penalty folks here to be real.... Oh... I get it. You guys are being sarcastic. Phew. It&#039;s nice to know that Singaporeans have a sense of sarcasm. You know, you really almost got me there with your pro-death penalty talk. Wait, you&#039;re not really being serious... Are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are people who support the death penalty devoid of intelligence &amp; morals or bribed by the standing authorities? Seriously, it&#8217;s incredible in this day &amp; age that people still find murder &#8220;righteous&#8221;. </p>
<p>Wait a minute&#8230; There are too many pro-death-penalty folks here to be real&#8230;. Oh&#8230; I get it. You guys are being sarcastic. Phew. It&#8217;s nice to know that Singaporeans have a sense of sarcasm. You know, you really almost got me there with your pro-death penalty talk. Wait, you&#8217;re not really being serious&#8230; Are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Pinkcoffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinkcoffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate people confuse the whole matter.  Crime is crime, it has nothing to politician party. Why wants to get PAP involved?
 
Every country has their own laws. As a Singaporean, I support death pealty for drug trafficker. Sorry, no 2nd chance. This is to protect us and ensure we have safety enviroment to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate people confuse the whole matter.  Crime is crime, it has nothing to politician party. Why wants to get PAP involved?</p>
<p>Every country has their own laws. As a Singaporean, I support death pealty for drug trafficker. Sorry, no 2nd chance. This is to protect us and ensure we have safety enviroment to live.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 49</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are against capital punishment - TOC: President rejects clemency petition for Yong Vui Kong - Rachel Zeng&#8217;s blog: Standing against the death penalty in Singapore - Who Moved My [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are against capital punishment &#8211; TOC: President rejects clemency petition for Yong Vui Kong &#8211; Rachel Zeng&#8217;s blog: Standing against the death penalty in Singapore &#8211; Who Moved My [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clement</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/president-rejects-clemency-petition-for-yong-vui-kong/comment-page-4/#comment-119296</link>
		<dc:creator>Clement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So sad. Another yound live being terminated. The main culprit is still around and waiting for the next innocent guy to get fished. 

Wished he is could be spare the death sentence. Let pray to God for the best and May God bless him in his after life........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sad. Another yound live being terminated. The main culprit is still around and waiting for the next innocent guy to get fished. </p>
<p>Wished he is could be spare the death sentence. Let pray to God for the best and May God bless him in his after life&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Pro Death Penalty!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pro Death Penalty!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those who oppose the death penalty are invited to move together with their children next to the home of drug traffickers, rapists, murderers and others who got spared from the gallows in countries where there is no death penalty. how about the Paris suburb or the shantytowns or rio or johannesburg.....

if we have no death penalty singapore will become mess. there is no reason to feed and keep alive hardcore criminals. except, maybe, for singapore s totally dumb opposition as they may hope to get votes from such scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those who oppose the death penalty are invited to move together with their children next to the home of drug traffickers, rapists, murderers and others who got spared from the gallows in countries where there is no death penalty. how about the Paris suburb or the shantytowns or rio or johannesburg&#8230;..</p>
<p>if we have no death penalty singapore will become mess. there is no reason to feed and keep alive hardcore criminals. except, maybe, for singapore s totally dumb opposition as they may hope to get votes from such scum.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumb and dumber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumb and dumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To 185) Johnny &amp; 186) Mui K.L.

Sorry to break the news, the High Court has put off the death sentence. So by your logic, PAP is bad, really bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 185) Johnny &amp; 186) Mui K.L.</p>
<p>Sorry to break the news, the High Court has put off the death sentence. So by your logic, PAP is bad, really bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mui K.L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mui K.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yong Vui Kong is a drug trafficker, and drug traffickers are killers. Killing drug traffickers is an act of liberation. 

If Yong gets killed mankind gets liberated of a murderer.

Luckily we have the PAP and its tough-on-crime Minister Wong Kan Seng who take care of the people and do not get intimidated by western dumbasses, their dull lackeys in Singapore and the crookish opposition.

PAP is good.
Death penalty is necessary.
Yong Vui Kong is a killer, scum, dangerous, useless and a nuisance.

Why oppose the death penalty? If you wants drugs for sale on the street then you oppose the death penalty. If you want to make money yourself as a drug peddler then you oppose the death penalty.

But law abiding, hard-working, patriotic and tax-paying citizens SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY! Let s not take risk or waste any money by keeping mass killers like Yong alive. Better we hang him today than tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yong Vui Kong is a drug trafficker, and drug traffickers are killers. Killing drug traffickers is an act of liberation. </p>
<p>If Yong gets killed mankind gets liberated of a murderer.</p>
<p>Luckily we have the PAP and its tough-on-crime Minister Wong Kan Seng who take care of the people and do not get intimidated by western dumbasses, their dull lackeys in Singapore and the crookish opposition.</p>
<p>PAP is good.<br />
Death penalty is necessary.<br />
Yong Vui Kong is a killer, scum, dangerous, useless and a nuisance.</p>
<p>Why oppose the death penalty? If you wants drugs for sale on the street then you oppose the death penalty. If you want to make money yourself as a drug peddler then you oppose the death penalty.</p>
<p>But law abiding, hard-working, patriotic and tax-paying citizens SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY! Let s not take risk or waste any money by keeping mass killers like Yong alive. Better we hang him today than tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is good that such gangster get executed.

If our stupid, leftwing opposition were in power they would be lenient with such human garbage and release them after a few years.

Singapore is safe because of the death penalty for drug traffickers - and thanks to the PAP.

Hang Yong Vui Kong - and stop the opposition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good that such gangster get executed.</p>
<p>If our stupid, leftwing opposition were in power they would be lenient with such human garbage and release them after a few years.</p>
<p>Singapore is safe because of the death penalty for drug traffickers &#8211; and thanks to the PAP.</p>
<p>Hang Yong Vui Kong &#8211; and stop the opposition!</p>
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		<title>By: Yamamoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yamamoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mr Lobo,

Firstly, if both way doesn&#039;t help....hey, haven&#039;t you hear of handyman? call one and ask them to fix it up for you right? geez....do you want their online site?

&quot;my assumption was that all things being equal. i.e TD&amp;H (what name did you change Harry to?) carries as much as E. &quot;

Ah...as Usual, that&#039;s an assumption....likewise, i assume to...and sorry, i think i change Harry to c..k....lol....but really..all this assumption from us...it can change either way...but of course, i can also assume that Elites who are better carries more..isn&#039;t that the case? I mean ministers are suppose to be cream of the crop, so they earn more right?

Ohhh.....right......the finger pointing....For your info, try this, point any 1 finger, and see how many points back at you, usually three, since the thumb is pointing somewhere else....and then switch to two fingers,  you have 2 pointing back at you, thumb pointing somewhere else again, and hey, 2 fingers pointing back at you, 2 out...so how did you get the positive of at least 1 finger.....

Ahhh...hahaha.... this was a stupid discussing about the min. amount of finger u have to point, so that it doesn&#039;t point back at you discussion during a nice outfield in a cosy ulu area....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr Lobo,</p>
<p>Firstly, if both way doesn&#8217;t help&#8230;.hey, haven&#8217;t you hear of handyman? call one and ask them to fix it up for you right? geez&#8230;.do you want their online site?</p>
<p>&#8220;my assumption was that all things being equal. i.e TD&amp;H (what name did you change Harry to?) carries as much as E. &#8221;</p>
<p>Ah&#8230;as Usual, that&#8217;s an assumption&#8230;.likewise, i assume to&#8230;and sorry, i think i change Harry to c..k&#8230;.lol&#8230;.but really..all this assumption from us&#8230;it can change either way&#8230;but of course, i can also assume that Elites who are better carries more..isn&#8217;t that the case? I mean ministers are suppose to be cream of the crop, so they earn more right?</p>
<p>Ohhh&#8230;..right&#8230;&#8230;the finger pointing&#8230;.For your info, try this, point any 1 finger, and see how many points back at you, usually three, since the thumb is pointing somewhere else&#8230;.and then switch to two fingers,  you have 2 pointing back at you, thumb pointing somewhere else again, and hey, 2 fingers pointing back at you, 2 out&#8230;so how did you get the positive of at least 1 finger&#8230;..</p>
<p>Ahhh&#8230;hahaha&#8230;. this was a stupid discussing about the min. amount of finger u have to point, so that it doesn&#8217;t point back at you discussion during a nice outfield in a cosy ulu area&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: NotGod</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is encouraging that Justice Woo exercised judicial discretion in allowing Yong a final chance as what we are dealing here is LIFE. Another question that cause concern: why his accomplice is jailed 22 years and not facing the same destiny?
Guest Andrew Chuah needs to examine his heart and head while he should also give deep reflection if he were to be Yong and what he hopes for then?
Under the constitution, no one should be deprive of his life and limb. 
Wish Yong and his counsel Mr Ravi luck during the appeal before the 3 judges.
Mr. Ravi did a great job. Many at kopitiams were salutating and complimenting him a while ago. It&#039;s like a goal in an international soccer championship!
God is always great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is encouraging that Justice Woo exercised judicial discretion in allowing Yong a final chance as what we are dealing here is LIFE. Another question that cause concern: why his accomplice is jailed 22 years and not facing the same destiny?<br />
Guest Andrew Chuah needs to examine his heart and head while he should also give deep reflection if he were to be Yong and what he hopes for then?<br />
Under the constitution, no one should be deprive of his life and limb.<br />
Wish Yong and his counsel Mr Ravi luck during the appeal before the 3 judges.<br />
Mr. Ravi did a great job. Many at kopitiams were salutating and complimenting him a while ago. It&#8217;s like a goal in an international soccer championship!<br />
God is always great.</p>
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		<title>By: lobo76</title>
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		<dc:creator>lobo76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;173) Yamamoto on December 2nd, 2009 2.57 pm
and Once again Lobo, i will suggest you to use the little grey cell again? with open borders and less risk? that will also mean lesser margin due to availability of supply…since you first talk about ROI, don’t tell me you don’t even know the basis of S/D curve? &lt;/i&gt;

and you conveniently ignore that an addict has a rather inflexible demand curve.... 

&lt;i&gt;Mr Lobo, did you fix a leaking tap before? it will still leak, unless you turn off the main right?&lt;/i&gt;

To complete your analogy (as it doesn&#039;t describe the whole situation), you have no idea where the mains are or that it is locked by PUB who ignores all your calls (i.e you have no jurisdiction to catch the druglords). So what can you do? 

&lt;i&gt;.just because only a few elites can get through, that means it is a smaller percentage then TD&amp;C? ...TD&amp;C carrying a small amount and Mr E carries a huge amount&lt;/i&gt;

my assumption was that all things being equal. i.e TD&amp;H (what name did you change Harry to?) carries as much as E. 

&lt;i&gt;but you are doing the finger pointing at me saying that i am doing so…but wait, at lease three of your fingers are pointing back at you… guess that’s human nature….finger pointing is human’s no.1 past time. &lt;/i&gt;

Well, technically, since I was responding to a post, hence the 3 fingers were pointing back at someone else first. To be sure, I like to &#039;point&#039; with 2 fingers, so I figure I should be in the positive by at least 1 finger. hahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>173) Yamamoto on December 2nd, 2009 2.57 pm<br />
and Once again Lobo, i will suggest you to use the little grey cell again? with open borders and less risk? that will also mean lesser margin due to availability of supply…since you first talk about ROI, don’t tell me you don’t even know the basis of S/D curve? </i></p>
<p>and you conveniently ignore that an addict has a rather inflexible demand curve&#8230;. </p>
<p><i>Mr Lobo, did you fix a leaking tap before? it will still leak, unless you turn off the main right?</i></p>
<p>To complete your analogy (as it doesn&#8217;t describe the whole situation), you have no idea where the mains are or that it is locked by PUB who ignores all your calls (i.e you have no jurisdiction to catch the druglords). So what can you do? </p>
<p><i>.just because only a few elites can get through, that means it is a smaller percentage then TD&amp;C? &#8230;TD&amp;C carrying a small amount and Mr E carries a huge amount</i></p>
<p>my assumption was that all things being equal. i.e TD&amp;H (what name did you change Harry to?) carries as much as E. </p>
<p><i>but you are doing the finger pointing at me saying that i am doing so…but wait, at lease three of your fingers are pointing back at you… guess that’s human nature….finger pointing is human’s no.1 past time. </i></p>
<p>Well, technically, since I was responding to a post, hence the 3 fingers were pointing back at someone else first. To be sure, I like to &#8216;point&#8217; with 2 fingers, so I figure I should be in the positive by at least 1 finger. hahaha</p>
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		<title>By: lalaland</title>
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		<dc:creator>lalaland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such is evidence of Lee&#039;s era of predominance. The effect of overbearing paternalism and control over everything in the life of a Singaporean. No doubt we owe the success of Singapore today to him. Yet his ideas and notions are proven to be expired in this modern era. The impact of global world has spawned itself onto the teenagers and the same old code of laws cannot apply. It requires flexibility. Man is fallible and was born of sin. I daringly ask MM Lee if he is infallible. I can say it would be real silly if the answer is yes. The code of forgiveness should be applied on a case to case basis and not capping death on a mere teenager, who has been misled. What we should be doing is displaying truth and showing the way so he may have a new life. The very concept of forgiving and forgetting as with impact of religion
in merging with a practical sense in today&#039;s society.It is time to wake up,all of u fools! It is Lee-no-more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such is evidence of Lee&#8217;s era of predominance. The effect of overbearing paternalism and control over everything in the life of a Singaporean. No doubt we owe the success of Singapore today to him. Yet his ideas and notions are proven to be expired in this modern era. The impact of global world has spawned itself onto the teenagers and the same old code of laws cannot apply. It requires flexibility. Man is fallible and was born of sin. I daringly ask MM Lee if he is infallible. I can say it would be real silly if the answer is yes. The code of forgiveness should be applied on a case to case basis and not capping death on a mere teenager, who has been misled. What we should be doing is displaying truth and showing the way so he may have a new life. The very concept of forgiving and forgetting as with impact of religion<br />
in merging with a practical sense in today&#8217;s society.It is time to wake up,all of u fools! It is Lee-no-more!</p>
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		<title>By: Go to the Queen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/president-rejects-clemency-petition-for-yong-vui-kong/comment-page-4/#comment-118720</link>
		<dc:creator>Go to the Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is no use turning to the puppet President.  I may phone the Queen to let her know that one of her Commonwealth countries is hanging a 19 yr old for possession of drugs.  Commonwealth members must adhere to good governance and eradication of poverty.  SG&#039;s bad governance is eradicating the poor by executing them.  Democracy? Don&#039;t even go there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is no use turning to the puppet President.  I may phone the Queen to let her know that one of her Commonwealth countries is hanging a 19 yr old for possession of drugs.  Commonwealth members must adhere to good governance and eradication of poverty.  SG&#8217;s bad governance is eradicating the poor by executing them.  Democracy? Don&#8217;t even go there!</p>
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		<title>By: No Scholar</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/president-rejects-clemency-petition-for-yong-vui-kong/comment-page-4/#comment-118714</link>
		<dc:creator>No Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saiber @176 : &quot;In this particular case, I do not know all the facts (everything is hearsay) so I shan’t pass judgement.&quot;

The issue here is not about whether the facts are right.  The bone of contention is death penalty for anyone found in POSSESSION of more than 15 gms of drugs.  So what if it has been planted, the law says.  As long as you POSSESS it, whether you are a saint or not, you are a smugler and you&#039;re dead.  According to this law, there is nothing to prove.  It is as long as you POSSESS more than 15gms drugs.  What facts do you need to know?

I think this stupid law alone scares away many tourists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saiber @176 : &#8220;In this particular case, I do not know all the facts (everything is hearsay) so I shan’t pass judgement.&#8221;</p>
<p>The issue here is not about whether the facts are right.  The bone of contention is death penalty for anyone found in POSSESSION of more than 15 gms of drugs.  So what if it has been planted, the law says.  As long as you POSSESS it, whether you are a saint or not, you are a smugler and you&#8217;re dead.  According to this law, there is nothing to prove.  It is as long as you POSSESS more than 15gms drugs.  What facts do you need to know?</p>
<p>I think this stupid law alone scares away many tourists.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheong Hui</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/president-rejects-clemency-petition-for-yong-vui-kong/comment-page-4/#comment-118713</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheong Hui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why we are happy about this latest development...the court was just following legal and procedural guidelines in responding to an application for a stay of execution...he will still be hang if Ravi cannot provide any convincing arguments to support the application or an reconveyance of the case, of which the possibilities is almost zero...sigh!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why we are happy about this latest development&#8230;the court was just following legal and procedural guidelines in responding to an application for a stay of execution&#8230;he will still be hang if Ravi cannot provide any convincing arguments to support the application or an reconveyance of the case, of which the possibilities is almost zero&#8230;sigh!!</p>
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		<title>By: saiber</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/president-rejects-clemency-petition-for-yong-vui-kong/comment-page-4/#comment-118707</link>
		<dc:creator>saiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people have been arguing over this for years without consensus and it&#039;s clear we won&#039;t reach consensus here either.

the problem, I think is that the issue is not black and white. Though many people in this thread have taken positions on one extreme or the other, I don&#039;t think that is the case.

It is impossible to argue that the death penalty is flawless and should be kept. It&#039;s many flaws are clear to see.

But those arguing against don&#039;t seem to acknowledge that it also does have benefits.

It is plain to see that Singapore (with a death penalty) has a far smaller drug problem and hence crime problem than a country like Australia (without a death penalty).

The question is whether the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

But then, erring on the side of ruthlessness has always been Singapore&#039;s style. We have low crime because we have set up such great disincentives against it. Heck, illegally parking in a handicap spot is worth a $400 fine already.

In this particular case, I do not know all the facts (everything is hearsay) so I shan&#039;t pass judgement.

But I will say to the person who suggested sending him back to Malaysia: The laws are the same, he would&#039;ve been hanged there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people have been arguing over this for years without consensus and it&#8217;s clear we won&#8217;t reach consensus here either.</p>
<p>the problem, I think is that the issue is not black and white. Though many people in this thread have taken positions on one extreme or the other, I don&#8217;t think that is the case.</p>
<p>It is impossible to argue that the death penalty is flawless and should be kept. It&#8217;s many flaws are clear to see.</p>
<p>But those arguing against don&#8217;t seem to acknowledge that it also does have benefits.</p>
<p>It is plain to see that Singapore (with a death penalty) has a far smaller drug problem and hence crime problem than a country like Australia (without a death penalty).</p>
<p>The question is whether the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.</p>
<p>But then, erring on the side of ruthlessness has always been Singapore&#8217;s style. We have low crime because we have set up such great disincentives against it. Heck, illegally parking in a handicap spot is worth a $400 fine already.</p>
<p>In this particular case, I do not know all the facts (everything is hearsay) so I shan&#8217;t pass judgement.</p>
<p>But I will say to the person who suggested sending him back to Malaysia: The laws are the same, he would&#8217;ve been hanged there too.</p>
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		<title>By: aygee</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/president-rejects-clemency-petition-for-yong-vui-kong/comment-page-4/#comment-118684</link>
		<dc:creator>aygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see that he&#039;s gotten a stay and the right to appeal.

Please, let the Courts show some mercy and let this boy have another chance at life. 

Do prove me wrong by showing that we do have a heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see that he&#8217;s gotten a stay and the right to appeal.</p>
<p>Please, let the Courts show some mercy and let this boy have another chance at life. </p>
<p>Do prove me wrong by showing that we do have a heart.</p>
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		<title>By: iain'tnobloomintourist</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/president-rejects-clemency-petition-for-yong-vui-kong/comment-page-4/#comment-118666</link>
		<dc:creator>iain'tnobloomintourist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>victory reformasi...viva ale liberate...
finally the governmment is LISTENIN... a stay of executions..right?
the right to appeal a reappeal...

TOC well done...leehsienloong is indeed readin the TOC or leekuanyew himself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>victory reformasi&#8230;viva ale liberate&#8230;<br />
finally the governmment is LISTENIN&#8230; a stay of executions..right?<br />
the right to appeal a reappeal&#8230;</p>
<p>TOC well done&#8230;leehsienloong is indeed readin the TOC or leekuanyew himself&#8230;</p>
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