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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/toc-blog-feature-fogged-lens/comment-page-1/#comment-115649</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how relevant or accurate this is, but I have been told that Burma VJ was already shown on Starhub Channel 170 about a week ago.  

One then wonders the need for a permit in light of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how relevant or accurate this is, but I have been told that Burma VJ was already shown on Starhub Channel 170 about a week ago.  </p>
<p>One then wonders the need for a permit in light of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t give you freedom, thinking that you simply cannot handle such freedom, you complain and make noise. Give you some freedom, you also try to find faults. 

Doesn&#039;t that proved that the govt has been right all along - i.e. that Singaporeans simply cannot handle too much freedom? They have to be told what &quot;EXACTLY&quot; to do to the minutest details???

Please think again. If we want the govt to give us more freedom, how many of us can handle it? 

There is always the first baby step. If we can&#039;t even perform that first baby step, starting with ourselves, how can we expect others to give us a chance; how can others be convinced and believe in us? I think we have to shake off that &quot;kiasu&quot; mentality that has been ingrained into our psyche over the last 50 years. Both leaders and followers (citizens).

Although Singapore is now referred to as a 1st world country (by MM Lee), but it is only the physical infrastructures and economic progress that can be considered as such and not the political and social maturity of its people.  This is mainly due to the ruling party&#039;s prolonged and persistent efforts made to stifle the interest and passion of the general population in politics and political issues, thereby resulting in the majority of  Singaporeans becoming apolitical and concentrate only on their day-to-day living and occasional holidays abroad.

Even producing children and care for their own children have been given the rear seat. That is why our population growth rate has dwindled to 1.03 latest. And more and more maids and childcare centres are taking over the care of our children because both parents have to work to make more money.

Even those families who can afford it, especially the highly educated, are finding it strange or abnormal to leave the mother to stay at home to just be a full-time mother to take direct care and responsibility of their own &#039;precious&#039; children. 

Irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t give you freedom, thinking that you simply cannot handle such freedom, you complain and make noise. Give you some freedom, you also try to find faults. </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that proved that the govt has been right all along &#8211; i.e. that Singaporeans simply cannot handle too much freedom? They have to be told what &#8220;EXACTLY&#8221; to do to the minutest details???</p>
<p>Please think again. If we want the govt to give us more freedom, how many of us can handle it? </p>
<p>There is always the first baby step. If we can&#8217;t even perform that first baby step, starting with ourselves, how can we expect others to give us a chance; how can others be convinced and believe in us? I think we have to shake off that &#8220;kiasu&#8221; mentality that has been ingrained into our psyche over the last 50 years. Both leaders and followers (citizens).</p>
<p>Although Singapore is now referred to as a 1st world country (by MM Lee), but it is only the physical infrastructures and economic progress that can be considered as such and not the political and social maturity of its people.  This is mainly due to the ruling party&#8217;s prolonged and persistent efforts made to stifle the interest and passion of the general population in politics and political issues, thereby resulting in the majority of  Singaporeans becoming apolitical and concentrate only on their day-to-day living and occasional holidays abroad.</p>
<p>Even producing children and care for their own children have been given the rear seat. That is why our population growth rate has dwindled to 1.03 latest. And more and more maids and childcare centres are taking over the care of our children because both parents have to work to make more money.</p>
<p>Even those families who can afford it, especially the highly educated, are finding it strange or abnormal to leave the mother to stay at home to just be a full-time mother to take direct care and responsibility of their own &#8216;precious&#8217; children. </p>
<p>Irony.</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
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		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of energy spent into banging against a tree when it is in the path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of energy spent into banging against a tree when it is in the path.</p>
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		<title>By: smallfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, alex, u questioned b4 that even until today, why those very sucessfuly &#039;businessmen&#039; or &#039;big coorporate donkeys&#039; in singapore still behave &#039;subservientlly&#039; to the pap, on the &#039;assumptions&#039; that they r &quot;capable n have great abilities&quot; so as to get them to what they r, today! mind u, it is precisely, because either they r pro pap or to a lesser extent not anti-pap that make them sucessful in singapore! a good example, oliver lum of hyflux. if u r anti-pap, b4 u can be sucessful, they already destroy u, or eliminate u even, after u have been sucessful! i don&#039;t mean to be rude, r u trying to tell us that u r so innocent that u r not aware of how singapore system works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, alex, u questioned b4 that even until today, why those very sucessfuly &#8216;businessmen&#8217; or &#8216;big coorporate donkeys&#8217; in singapore still behave &#8216;subservientlly&#8217; to the pap, on the &#8216;assumptions&#8217; that they r &#8220;capable n have great abilities&#8221; so as to get them to what they r, today! mind u, it is precisely, because either they r pro pap or to a lesser extent not anti-pap that make them sucessful in singapore! a good example, oliver lum of hyflux. if u r anti-pap, b4 u can be sucessful, they already destroy u, or eliminate u even, after u have been sucessful! i don&#8217;t mean to be rude, r u trying to tell us that u r so innocent that u r not aware of how singapore system works!</p>
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		<title>By: A Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex

Don&#039;t you think by showing us how &quot;smart ass&quot; you are by making fun of the policeman&#039;s answer to your very legitimate query and concern, you will be making life more difficult for other applicants and yrself in future? And to S&#039;poreans in general

The very proper police response would be, &quot;We will chk the files to see what you applied for and who made the mistake, and let you know. In the meantime, the timing allowed stands.&quot;   

I think the policeman went out of his way to make things easy for himself and you, and got mocked and saboed by you. His superior might not like the way situation was handled and cause him problems. 

Other policemen  will become more officious towards all of us. 

Having ranted at you, as fan of swift, Austen and Waugh, I did enjoy the piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think by showing us how &#8220;smart ass&#8221; you are by making fun of the policeman&#8217;s answer to your very legitimate query and concern, you will be making life more difficult for other applicants and yrself in future? And to S&#8217;poreans in general</p>
<p>The very proper police response would be, &#8220;We will chk the files to see what you applied for and who made the mistake, and let you know. In the meantime, the timing allowed stands.&#8221;   </p>
<p>I think the policeman went out of his way to make things easy for himself and you, and got mocked and saboed by you. His superior might not like the way situation was handled and cause him problems. </p>
<p>Other policemen  will become more officious towards all of us. </p>
<p>Having ranted at you, as fan of swift, Austen and Waugh, I did enjoy the piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Oxford Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oxford Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a lot of red tape further complicated by a series of unfortunate incidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a lot of red tape further complicated by a series of unfortunate incidents.</p>
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		<title>By: GABRIEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>GABRIEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flexibility is the name of the game, dear Alex. The goddamned red tape can get you tied up in knots, I agree. But sometimes, if Big Brother agrees to turn a blind eye, I say, take what you can get. The end justifies the means.
This sounds unprincipled and lacking in integrity? Yup, but at least the public gets to see the movies and gets enlightened etc. in the process. Sometimes, the rules are for the great unwashed, pardon my lack of PC. And we must sometimes go where angels fear to tread.
But keep up the good fight, Alex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flexibility is the name of the game, dear Alex. The goddamned red tape can get you tied up in knots, I agree. But sometimes, if Big Brother agrees to turn a blind eye, I say, take what you can get. The end justifies the means.<br />
This sounds unprincipled and lacking in integrity? Yup, but at least the public gets to see the movies and gets enlightened etc. in the process. Sometimes, the rules are for the great unwashed, pardon my lack of PC. And we must sometimes go where angels fear to tread.<br />
But keep up the good fight, Alex.</p>
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