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By: Felicia

Felicia — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:54:40 +0000

Singapore has changed so much for the “better” over the last ten years…

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=306843482947&ref=search&sid=718059914.1745228342..1

By: A Tan

A Tan — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:53:47 +0000

Incredulous,
Pls also give credit to the S’poreans that have been largely air-brushed out of history: Goh Keng Swee, Hon Siew Sin, Lim Kim San, Ngiam Tong Dow, Pillay and Sim Kee Boon. I hope you are not one of those “Ang Moh tua kee”
And the rot started when Mr “Peanuts” became PM.

By: A Tan

A Tan — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:47:24 +0000

Trying to be like the Wayang Party ToC?
PM never said or even implied that S’pore was a fishing village before PAP came. You may think he said it or implied it, but objectively he didn’t.
I know WP has more hits (a lot, lot more so much so that KJ gives TR exclusive), but there is a lot more there than misrepresenting the facts. So take the gd bits so that people like me will again make ToC the default choice for local stuff.
Tip: go easy on hanging issue. I am a non-hanger but I don’t waste my time trying to persuade S’poreans that cap punishment is morally wrong.

By: Incredulous

Incredulous — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:02:55 +0000

Kindly, google Dr Albert Wensimius and you will find who is the real/true architect of modern Singapore.

Coincidently, after Dr Wensimius’ death in 1996, thats when the rot in our government began.

By: Hansen

Hansen — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:29:26 +0000

Singapore was never a truly “poor” country when compared to its peers.

its gdp per capita even in 1965 -1980 was fluctuating around 30-40th spot in the world. this is out of 100-200 countries!

even during independence in 1065, singapore was around the same level as portugal and hong kong in terms of gdp per capita.

By: Goldie Period

Goldie Period — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:19:25 +0000

Only those with ‘village people’ mentality beleive that we were a fishing village then.
Can a fisherman’s son be sent to Cambridge to study law?—-on a fisherman’s income?
These village people probably beleive that we are in a Golden period now.
Sadly—one is born every minute.

By: Jacob Lim

Jacob Lim — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:41:00 +0000

Venice, a city state, lost its statehood; in a nutshell because of the the government.

Thank you PAP for 44 good years. We can see though you’re expensive, Singapore, this tiny and resourceless island, is still among the tops in the WORLD & well-respected worldwide.

International accocolades & actions speak . .

By: B

Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:53:16 +0000

Everybody knows Singapore was one of the most developed cities in the region since the late 1800s. I don’t think anyone has ever claimed that

“Singapore was just a “fishing village” before independence and the arrival of the People’s Action Party.”

Interesting video though.

By: niagara

niagara — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:15:32 +0000

it was not a coincidence that the british royal family chose singapore to plant their seeds. it is for many strategic purposes. as you all will soon witness as events unravel in the future.

By: Seow

Seow — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:06:54 +0000

Yes Singapore was a fishing village before PAP. In fact, history has it that the PAP leader discovered an animal that has the head of a lion and had the body of a mermaid. That is why we have the Merlion of today. With the blessings of the Merlion, Singapore was best in everything until lightning took away their powers during a storm. To reciprocate the kindness of China who loan use two Pandas, our leader is comptemplating lending China two of our merlions.

I am sure if I say this very seriously, some people will actually believe it.

By: Agents Provocateur

Agents Provocateur — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:53:04 +0000

With reference to the whole ‘fishing village’ thing, if I remember correctly, prior to colonisation, this island suffered from a general lack of contiguous significance – insofar as it tended to vacillate wildly between “chilled out fishing village” and “exciting new port”. The occasion for transition would typically be some prince throwing a fit and razing it to the ground, or people would just forget about whatever settlement happened to be there at the time.

So, in that sense, we don’t have a pre-colonial history. We have a series of abortively disconnected pre-colonial histories.

By: Sayonara

Sayonara — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:30:24 +0000

Malaysia’s economy at the second bottom rung and stagnated for last 10 years.

http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28797:malaysias-economy-at-the-second-bottom-rung&catid=19:newscommentaries&Itemid=100131

Kekuatan Melayu

By: Ta'Malu

Ta'Malu — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:17:00 +0000

26) singaporian on December 1st, 2009 6.57 pm -

Mana lu berasal (where did u originate)? JawaB (Answer)! Jangan malu-malu (don’t be shy).
Java? Sulewesi? Sumetera? etc.,

If you say you’re the Orang Laut then I have nothing to say. YOU ARE THEN THE RED INDIANS OF SINGAPORE.

If you were a Malaysian or an ex- you would know all the temberang (bull shit) and tembak sini, tembak sana. Short of the Orang Asli, they have MIGRATED to Malaya since the Japanese Occupation. In fact the Japanese brought 1000s upon 1000s of Javanese to Malaya then. Since UMNO took over a ‘ Malaysian Malay’ is defined as one who is (1) a Muslim (2) speak Malay and (3) embrace the Malay culture. Not the UNIVERSAL indiginous & aboriginal meaning mind you. Therefore all Muslim Indonesians will qualify, right? Not the Christian Filipinos and Christian Indonesians who are “Malay” generically.

Marhartia himself, his father hailed from Kerala, India. All Malaysian Malays are pendatang (immigrants) like Singapore’s.

Read the honorable & upright Syed Imran, former Press Secretary to Minister in PM’s Department, Ampang, Selangor, Malaysia (Do you understand Malay?)

Antara pendatang dan penumpang -
http://kudaranggi.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html

By: Political SalesMaN

Political SalesMaN — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:52:59 +0000

Dear commentor, don’t be distract by the word “Fishing Villiage” maybe Sang Nila Utama times, yes is a fishing Villiage, LKY use this words to propaganda it.
Singapore geograhic location was nutrally being build in a cross-road juction. Most of the ideas like Materialism can be bought by money. Only ideas , who design it? Seattler who come and go bring in thier cutlure to build this land. I can said is a only a smart person just modify it.

By: curious citizen

curious citizen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:52:40 +0000

@21
“Yes i can count my blessings. But i am very greedy. Not only do i want Singapore to have the Best Airline, Airport, Transport System, etc as you have listed out, i also want the bestest government in the world to be the best at other things.

I would also like Singapore to have the Most Accountable Government, The Most Transparent Government, The Government with the best checks and balances, The Country with one of the lowest GINI coefficients along with one of the highest standards of living, The Most Free Press, The Country with the best Human Rights record, etc. These are just a few things at the top of my head, i’m sure other commentators can give more.”

Wow, heaps said here. But some of those accolades have been achieved. eg.
Best Minister Reason http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/property-tax-hike-minister-luis-reason/.
Best Minister Explanation http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/flood-was-a-freak-event-says-minister/
Best Minister For Public Housing Demand http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/09/hdb-flats-affordability-will-always-be-there-says-mah/
And not to mention our perennial favorite, Best Minister for Quotes http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/08/be-faster-better-cheaper-says-lim-swee-say/.

However some of the things are not pratical, eg Best Human Rights record. We have Prof Walter Woon, wise as he is, with this quote “Human rights has become a ‘religion’ that breeds devotees who border on the fanatic.” http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2008/yax-890.htm

Lastly inanho, i hate to break it to you, but our bestest law minister said that we are not a country. So we will always be a bestest city hoping to achieve more bestest accolades. And that among those other things that you are wishing to achieve within our city, I do know of someone who would describe it as a highfalutin idea. It exist as an aspiration.

But it is quite true, “For example, the Intel 8008 microprocessor allowed the home computer revolution to take off. I could go on and on about it’s accolades. The question is, would you buy one as your CPU today?”

Similarly, there should not be the case where we credit past achievements to future success. It should be relatively irrelevant what Singapore used to be except for the purpose of appreciating Her historical value. Here and now should be the primary standard to gauge the performance. So please assess and see how well it is performing at the moment.

By: singaporian

singaporian — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:57:09 +0000

24) Ta’malu

perhaps you need to spend more time reading history… i wonder where you learnt it. there were malay settlements in Singapore for several centuries before arrival of raffles. they had their own cultures and styles. they are the natives of Singapore without doubt. over time since arrival of raffles there were also malays and indonesians migrating to singapore but that was few in numbers.

By: Harry

Harry — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:07:16 +0000

In the video, it mention Singapore was a duty-free Shopping Center. After watching this video, this is my view: Many businessmen came to sell their goods to Ang Mohs, and Ang Mohs also import their home products in for their needs. Well-educated immigrants from China, India saw a good opportunity to sell their product here to Ang Mohs. Look at Boat Quay in the video, so many boatswith goods and go-downs, all the way to Clark Quay, Robertson Quay, can compare to modern-day PSA. I think also many around Asia also came and buy goods, because duty-free. So the success back then was it’s geographic location, Ang Mohs’ demand and Duty-Free. Not the cheapest to shop in Singapore now, because got 7% GST. Remove GST and get back to our roots of Duty-free shopping. Yea…

By: Ta'Malu

Ta'Malu — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:35:42 +0000

pembebasan (freedom) on December 1st, 2009 2.42 pm -

Your sejarah (history) is lacking or is it from a Malaysian university?

The Red Indians of Singapore are the Orang Laut & Peninsular Malaysia, the Orang Asli. Not talking abt it means katak di-bawah tempurong.

Where you from (mana ku berasal?)? I’m an ex-Malaysian so you can’t tipu-tipu (bluff). Najib himself appeared before the Indonesian TV when he visited Indonesia last month where he told the audience that his grandparents menghijrah (migrated from Indonesia). He is Bugis. And all majority of the rest are also pendatang (immigrants) from Indonesia – Acehnese, Boyan, Javanese, or India, Middle East, etc. He was trying then to pacify the host of the talk show over the food origin debacle, the Malaysian bombings in Jakarta., etc.

Bebas? I think UMNO better bebas the orang asli and the Indians and Chinese. Unshackle them from the evil claws of the 45-year-old NEP.

Reflect, when the Javanese & Madurese crossed over to Kalimantan, what did the Dayaks @Pontianak do? Check the web. When the Javanese went to Aceh what did the Acehese do? Satu negara? Don’t tickle my toes!

Maybe we shd all study at NUS or one or the UK universities to sort out facts from illusion. I don’t know how to bluff. I only speak the truth. My religion lah.

You want more history (verifiable history) I can also supply for post independent Malaya and also during the Ming Dynasty period?