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		<title>By: Saul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but Singapore really ISN&#039;T a country. *sarcasm*

Its flag is derivative from its neighbors: the white and red from Indonesia, the Crescent-and-Star from Malaysia. Singapore&#039;s flag also has no name (Sang Merah Putih, and Jelur Gemilah for Indonesia and Malaysia respectively). *sarcasm again* 

I think we are appealed to unite as a &quot;nation&quot; when it suits the Powers for us to be, i.e. when we are in active revolt against rule, and to be as passive a &quot;city&quot;  when the term is convenient, i.e. when we appeal to the rights of Citizenship and demand civil / political rights that we are supposed to have under rule. 

All those who have gone through NS, remember the oath you were forced to swear and sign on pain of imprisonment? The one that includes the clause &quot;I swear to be loyal to the PRESIDENT? (my emphasis)&quot; Bingo. I do not serve the interest of my COUNTRY ( / city ). I serve its chief executive. And if I disobey an order from the Power, my commanding officer is fully licensed to have me shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but Singapore really ISN&#8217;T a country. *sarcasm*</p>
<p>Its flag is derivative from its neighbors: the white and red from Indonesia, the Crescent-and-Star from Malaysia. Singapore&#8217;s flag also has no name (Sang Merah Putih, and Jelur Gemilah for Indonesia and Malaysia respectively). *sarcasm again* </p>
<p>I think we are appealed to unite as a &#8220;nation&#8221; when it suits the Powers for us to be, i.e. when we are in active revolt against rule, and to be as passive a &#8220;city&#8221;  when the term is convenient, i.e. when we appeal to the rights of Citizenship and demand civil / political rights that we are supposed to have under rule. </p>
<p>All those who have gone through NS, remember the oath you were forced to swear and sign on pain of imprisonment? The one that includes the clause &#8220;I swear to be loyal to the PRESIDENT? (my emphasis)&#8221; Bingo. I do not serve the interest of my COUNTRY ( / city ). I serve its chief executive. And if I disobey an order from the Power, my commanding officer is fully licensed to have me shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anon,

If you are concerned with the collapse of the USD, then buy gold, silver, rhodium or platinum. As simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anon,</p>
<p>If you are concerned with the collapse of the USD, then buy gold, silver, rhodium or platinum. As simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: Utopia</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-114390</link>
		<dc:creator>Utopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Motorcycles are banned in Hangzhou, hybrid busses in Hangzhou, public recycling bins replaces all garbage bins nation wide, plastic bags is chargeable nation wide, solar water heater is the norm to name just a few. Why we did not even hear these in our media???????&quot;

You forget we are Uniquely Singapore. Therefore, our SPH more interested in negative foreigner news like natural disaster, death, violent riot &amp; protest in other countries. In other word, foreign News that make Singaporean feel good and fortunate how lucky they are to be Singaporean at the expense of other countries. Otherwise how can MIW and PAP can continue to be arrogant, hoodwinking the nation and  command astronomical salary ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Motorcycles are banned in Hangzhou, hybrid busses in Hangzhou, public recycling bins replaces all garbage bins nation wide, plastic bags is chargeable nation wide, solar water heater is the norm to name just a few. Why we did not even hear these in our media???????&#8221;</p>
<p>You forget we are Uniquely Singapore. Therefore, our SPH more interested in negative foreigner news like natural disaster, death, violent riot &amp; protest in other countries. In other word, foreign News that make Singaporean feel good and fortunate how lucky they are to be Singaporean at the expense of other countries. Otherwise how can MIW and PAP can continue to be arrogant, hoodwinking the nation and  command astronomical salary ?</p>
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		<title>By: kee Seng</title>
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		<dc:creator>kee Seng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not see any prominent young generation honouring our old man in US. He cold war speech only found audience among his generation. Most young people recognised that the issue that most likely to threaten the world is Climate change and not China. In fact, having been in China recently, the Chinese are taking a much, much stronger lead in climate change issues than ours. Motorcycles are banned in Hangzhou, hybrid busses in Hangzhou, public recycling bins replaces all garbage bins nation wide, plastic bags is chargeable nation wide, solar water heater is the norm to name just a few. Why we did not even hear these in our media???????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not see any prominent young generation honouring our old man in US. He cold war speech only found audience among his generation. Most young people recognised that the issue that most likely to threaten the world is Climate change and not China. In fact, having been in China recently, the Chinese are taking a much, much stronger lead in climate change issues than ours. Motorcycles are banned in Hangzhou, hybrid busses in Hangzhou, public recycling bins replaces all garbage bins nation wide, plastic bags is chargeable nation wide, solar water heater is the norm to name just a few. Why we did not even hear these in our media???????</p>
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		<title>By: kee Seng</title>
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		<dc:creator>kee Seng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, everyone. Singapore is actually not a city or country. it is a company, just like East India company. Nothing counts except money. Not just the government or the party, but many citizens as well. See how they give up their land, savings(CPF) and how they back off every issues whenever threaten by the cost that will incur. We sold ourselves, now we have to buy our way in, and it is going to be expensive, in terms of sacrifices. We talk here but how many is willing to pay the price?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, everyone. Singapore is actually not a city or country. it is a company, just like East India company. Nothing counts except money. Not just the government or the party, but many citizens as well. See how they give up their land, savings(CPF) and how they back off every issues whenever threaten by the cost that will incur. We sold ourselves, now we have to buy our way in, and it is going to be expensive, in terms of sacrifices. We talk here but how many is willing to pay the price?</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
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		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the author&#039;s name reduced to KJ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the author&#8217;s name reduced to KJ?</p>
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		<title>By: Where Do We Belong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where Do We Belong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where Do We Belong?

Fearless freedom, 
within the beautiful blue sky,
as the beautiful birds soar
and freely fly.
Could there be crooked crocodiles
or ruthless birds of prey
beneath and on the surface
of the calm waters and space?

Don&#039;t forget,
this is uniquely Singapore!
Men-in-White and Wolves-in-White
are similarly everywhere,
every time.
Are our calm and peace,
progress and prosperity real?

Everyone loves calm, peace,
justice, freedom and happiness.
But with MIWs in power grip
greedier and tighter,
more callous, more heinous,
more ruthless by the day,
Will commoners&#039; contentment
be real, a dream or nightmare?

If after so many years past,
and our national pledge is nothing
but just an aspiration,
a bombshell hurl&#039;d by the Father
like suicide terrorists,
upon the mesmerized masses, 
unaware of the lurking danger,
wherefore is our inspiration?

If after 50 years of nation-building,
the Little Red Dot is anything
but still not a nation,
another bombshell cast
again by none other than the Father
upon subservient souls,
oblivious of their lives and limbs,
what for we sing the national anthem 
and do national service?

If after existing 50 years, 
for all intents and purposes,
as an independent country
and the whole wide world knows,
Singapore is but only a mere city,
not a country, albeit 
a city of possibilities,
a garden city or coming sin city,
a third bombshell cast 
also with all intents and purposes,
by another respected man of law,
a long-time incumbent,
a later legacy of the British Empire,
where then is our country?

What are we living for?
What are we fighting for?
What are we defending?
What will we by dying for?

What then is our nationality?
Where then is our country?
Where then is our home?
Where do we belong?

By &#039;Green Peas&#039; 
8 November, 2009.
Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where Do We Belong?</p>
<p>Fearless freedom,<br />
within the beautiful blue sky,<br />
as the beautiful birds soar<br />
and freely fly.<br />
Could there be crooked crocodiles<br />
or ruthless birds of prey<br />
beneath and on the surface<br />
of the calm waters and space?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget,<br />
this is uniquely Singapore!<br />
Men-in-White and Wolves-in-White<br />
are similarly everywhere,<br />
every time.<br />
Are our calm and peace,<br />
progress and prosperity real?</p>
<p>Everyone loves calm, peace,<br />
justice, freedom and happiness.<br />
But with MIWs in power grip<br />
greedier and tighter,<br />
more callous, more heinous,<br />
more ruthless by the day,<br />
Will commoners&#8217; contentment<br />
be real, a dream or nightmare?</p>
<p>If after so many years past,<br />
and our national pledge is nothing<br />
but just an aspiration,<br />
a bombshell hurl&#8217;d by the Father<br />
like suicide terrorists,<br />
upon the mesmerized masses,<br />
unaware of the lurking danger,<br />
wherefore is our inspiration?</p>
<p>If after 50 years of nation-building,<br />
the Little Red Dot is anything<br />
but still not a nation,<br />
another bombshell cast<br />
again by none other than the Father<br />
upon subservient souls,<br />
oblivious of their lives and limbs,<br />
what for we sing the national anthem<br />
and do national service?</p>
<p>If after existing 50 years,<br />
for all intents and purposes,<br />
as an independent country<br />
and the whole wide world knows,<br />
Singapore is but only a mere city,<br />
not a country, albeit<br />
a city of possibilities,<br />
a garden city or coming sin city,<br />
a third bombshell cast<br />
also with all intents and purposes,<br />
by another respected man of law,<br />
a long-time incumbent,<br />
a later legacy of the British Empire,<br />
where then is our country?</p>
<p>What are we living for?<br />
What are we fighting for?<br />
What are we defending?<br />
What will we by dying for?</p>
<p>What then is our nationality?<br />
Where then is our country?<br />
Where then is our home?<br />
Where do we belong?</p>
<p>By &#8216;Green Peas&#8217;<br />
8 November, 2009.<br />
Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-114243</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I don&#039;t understand why people are making such a big deal out of this, all nations and cities rise and fall in time, Singapore like all nation/cities will fall eventually..

Get over it, there are bigger issues at hand, such as the collapse of the American Dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I don&#8217;t understand why people are making such a big deal out of this, all nations and cities rise and fall in time, Singapore like all nation/cities will fall eventually..</p>
<p>Get over it, there are bigger issues at hand, such as the collapse of the American Dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pariah</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-114222</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you can finish uttering &quot;Singapura&quot;, the powers-that-are may say that we are not even a city, but a garden!  

Majullah Singapura, may a hundred &quot;bunga-bunga&quot; bloom, eh?  

The Pariah, www.singaporeenbloc.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you can finish uttering &#8220;Singapura&#8221;, the powers-that-are may say that we are not even a city, but a garden!  </p>
<p>Majullah Singapura, may a hundred &#8220;bunga-bunga&#8221; bloom, eh?  </p>
<p>The Pariah, <a href="http://www.singaporeenbloc.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.singaporeenbloc.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 45</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &quot;Singapore, if you are not my country, who is?&quot; KJ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &quot;Singapore, if you are not my country, who is?&quot; KJ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OOS</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-114126</link>
		<dc:creator>OOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refer to Andrew Chuah [# 28]

Wholeheartedly agree what you had said.

Whatever topics, there’s different in opinions. Between the lines your stated City State… &amp; your final lines “Lastly, our Modern Singapore is a City State and our only place we called Our Home, not Our House as you put it in one of your article”

For the sake of discussions how do we refine “City” &amp; “State”?

Luckily we are all fated being Singaporeans, otherwise we are Malaysians if we are not kicked out in 9 Aug 65. Then Singapore became the City and a State of Malaysia. Thumbs up to all the old guards who had delivered what were promised in the mid &amp; late 60s. Earlier HDB housing consist mostly one room rented flats &amp; 3 rooms flat for sale, in fact it was leased.

Your are absolutely correct to say “Our Home not Our house” as there are not freehold, yet many are still paying monthly installments till one’s last breaths. Similarly it will tore down like those rented flats by the next generation. Are we ordinary Singaporeans working for our next generations like our late parents did for us? Or are the current government did for their next generations after the lease expire? Let’s guess.

Cheers
Ordinary Overseas Singaporeans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refer to Andrew Chuah [# 28]</p>
<p>Wholeheartedly agree what you had said.</p>
<p>Whatever topics, there’s different in opinions. Between the lines your stated City State… &amp; your final lines “Lastly, our Modern Singapore is a City State and our only place we called Our Home, not Our House as you put it in one of your article”</p>
<p>For the sake of discussions how do we refine “City” &amp; “State”?</p>
<p>Luckily we are all fated being Singaporeans, otherwise we are Malaysians if we are not kicked out in 9 Aug 65. Then Singapore became the City and a State of Malaysia. Thumbs up to all the old guards who had delivered what were promised in the mid &amp; late 60s. Earlier HDB housing consist mostly one room rented flats &amp; 3 rooms flat for sale, in fact it was leased.</p>
<p>Your are absolutely correct to say “Our Home not Our house” as there are not freehold, yet many are still paying monthly installments till one’s last breaths. Similarly it will tore down like those rented flats by the next generation. Are we ordinary Singaporeans working for our next generations like our late parents did for us? Or are the current government did for their next generations after the lease expire? Let’s guess.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Ordinary Overseas Singaporeans</p>
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		<title>By: OOS</title>
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		<dc:creator>OOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refer to K Das [# 39]

“Re-merger is possible should unprecedented economic woes confront S’pore but this will be on terms largely set by Malaysia.”


Hi K Das, Reading through your [#39] Really nice thought of yours, keep it up my fellow ageing Singaporean.

My personal opinion, it impossible for any merger, we should be too proud of our S$ dollars. Secondly ask any Singaporeans how secure one feels after passing the causeway? Then what about overall corruptions? Malaysian RM still not trade able over most foreign banks counters.

Dear Mr. Minister Shanmugam.  Let us be Singaporean, the little red dot, Republic of Singapore, a Nation not a city. A city is part of a country, part of a nation, is anyone trying to say Singapore is part of another country?

Cheers to our Singaporean’s Nation!

Ordinary Overseas Singaporean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refer to K Das [# 39]</p>
<p>“Re-merger is possible should unprecedented economic woes confront S’pore but this will be on terms largely set by Malaysia.”</p>
<p>Hi K Das, Reading through your [#39] Really nice thought of yours, keep it up my fellow ageing Singaporean.</p>
<p>My personal opinion, it impossible for any merger, we should be too proud of our S$ dollars. Secondly ask any Singaporeans how secure one feels after passing the causeway? Then what about overall corruptions? Malaysian RM still not trade able over most foreign banks counters.</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Minister Shanmugam.  Let us be Singaporean, the little red dot, Republic of Singapore, a Nation not a city. A city is part of a country, part of a nation, is anyone trying to say Singapore is part of another country?</p>
<p>Cheers to our Singaporean’s Nation!</p>
<p>Ordinary Overseas Singaporean</p>
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		<title>By: OOS</title>
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		<dc:creator>OOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refer to K Das [# 39]

Am appreciate you have touch of our nation history. I like to share my little thoughts too.

LKY &amp; party joined Malaysia mainly due to possible uncontrollable communist movements upon given self rules from the British, a safer place with Malaysia allowing Tengku to deal with the communist as Malaysia armies were fighting against them in the Northern Jungles.

Similarly Tengku do have his motives, wanted to rules Singapore due to her location. However 13 cornered stars were a lousy one. After merger, if I’m not wrong there’s election in 1963 where UMNO set up it branches in Singapore trying to outdo PAP. Or even try to take control of governing Singapore but failed.
Visionary LKY did the same after UMNO came, his teams entered into Malaysia setting up PAP branches. If not wrong, campaigns against MCA who was licking UMNO bosses. 

The next reactions were racial clashes in Singapore which many believed to this day was part of UMNO political plans. Not publicized, at the first clashes many Chinese died, after days it was the other way round. You just can’t beat the gangsters those days once they teamed up.

Cheers
Ordinary Overseas Singaporean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refer to K Das [# 39]</p>
<p>Am appreciate you have touch of our nation history. I like to share my little thoughts too.</p>
<p>LKY &amp; party joined Malaysia mainly due to possible uncontrollable communist movements upon given self rules from the British, a safer place with Malaysia allowing Tengku to deal with the communist as Malaysia armies were fighting against them in the Northern Jungles.</p>
<p>Similarly Tengku do have his motives, wanted to rules Singapore due to her location. However 13 cornered stars were a lousy one. After merger, if I’m not wrong there’s election in 1963 where UMNO set up it branches in Singapore trying to outdo PAP. Or even try to take control of governing Singapore but failed.<br />
Visionary LKY did the same after UMNO came, his teams entered into Malaysia setting up PAP branches. If not wrong, campaigns against MCA who was licking UMNO bosses. </p>
<p>The next reactions were racial clashes in Singapore which many believed to this day was part of UMNO political plans. Not publicized, at the first clashes many Chinese died, after days it was the other way round. You just can’t beat the gangsters those days once they teamed up.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Ordinary Overseas Singaporean</p>
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		<title>By: OOS</title>
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		<dc:creator>OOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Referring temasek patriot #04
“3) LKY did embark on a population control program since 1959 to increase 60% chinese population to 80% population”




Kindly do allow me to quote you wrong to your above.

Baby boom after the end of WW2 including the 50s &amp; early 60s. LKY was alarmed by the increase of population to coup with our fragile young nation at that time after being kicked out from Malaysia. To control the growths he implemented population control program to stop at 2 per family provided one can effort more children. One of their police went wrong probably following China concept stopping at 1.

Those days, Chinese families not only stop at 2 but mostly 1, but the other races kept on producing. I think these policies chanced asking for more babies now!

Cheers
Ordinary Overseas Singaporean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referring temasek patriot #04<br />
“3) LKY did embark on a population control program since 1959 to increase 60% chinese population to 80% population”</p>
<p>Kindly do allow me to quote you wrong to your above.</p>
<p>Baby boom after the end of WW2 including the 50s &amp; early 60s. LKY was alarmed by the increase of population to coup with our fragile young nation at that time after being kicked out from Malaysia. To control the growths he implemented population control program to stop at 2 per family provided one can effort more children. One of their police went wrong probably following China concept stopping at 1.</p>
<p>Those days, Chinese families not only stop at 2 but mostly 1, but the other races kept on producing. I think these policies chanced asking for more babies now!</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Ordinary Overseas Singaporean</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-114099</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>65) SS Stirrer on November 5th, 2009 4.22 am Ask K Shan if CHicago or San Francisco has an army? How come we as a city have an army ? 

What army do we have, they are all just bodyguards by forced just to protect those MIW to stay in power, something similar to the Junta these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>65) SS Stirrer on November 5th, 2009 4.22 am Ask K Shan if CHicago or San Francisco has an army? How come we as a city have an army ? </p>
<p>What army do we have, they are all just bodyguards by forced just to protect those MIW to stay in power, something similar to the Junta these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore Boy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-113984</link>
		<dc:creator>Singapore Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PAP policies- bring more citizens in , to dilute our &quot;real&quot; singaporeans&#039; votes.
The new citizens would vote for PAP. The &quot;real&quot; singaporeans born and bred here will become a minority.
Bring more new PR in, grab all the jobs available. The &quot;real&quot; singaporeans will be out of jobs, poor and no where to go.
The PRs will earn their monies and retire in their own countries.While &quot;real&quot; singaporeans will have to work until 65 . Then they are able to draw money via CPF life.
Which jobs are available for people from 55 years to 65 years old? No one will employ you.That is a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PAP policies- bring more citizens in , to dilute our &#8220;real&#8221; singaporeans&#8217; votes.<br />
The new citizens would vote for PAP. The &#8220;real&#8221; singaporeans born and bred here will become a minority.<br />
Bring more new PR in, grab all the jobs available. The &#8220;real&#8221; singaporeans will be out of jobs, poor and no where to go.<br />
The PRs will earn their monies and retire in their own countries.While &#8220;real&#8221; singaporeans will have to work until 65 . Then they are able to draw money via CPF life.<br />
Which jobs are available for people from 55 years to 65 years old? No one will employ you.That is a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore Boy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-113983</link>
		<dc:creator>Singapore Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate PAP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate PAP</p>
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		<title>By: boohoo365</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-113866</link>
		<dc:creator>boohoo365</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We (the citizens) are bears in a cage (of Singapore) and are kept alive by our masters (the powers that be) so that they can milk our bile to be sold as medicines to customers (trading partners). We are given just enough to be kept alive and given the illusion of a good life (HDB, Orchard Road, Sentosa, MRT, etc) to continue to produce bile. Our bile is continually sucked out to provide generous income for our masters. 

We used to pledge our lives to our masters so that we can have a good future but now we are told that its not a pledge but only an aspiration. So, our good future may not be, afterall. Our cage used to be our country but now its only a cage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We (the citizens) are bears in a cage (of Singapore) and are kept alive by our masters (the powers that be) so that they can milk our bile to be sold as medicines to customers (trading partners). We are given just enough to be kept alive and given the illusion of a good life (HDB, Orchard Road, Sentosa, MRT, etc) to continue to produce bile. Our bile is continually sucked out to provide generous income for our masters. </p>
<p>We used to pledge our lives to our masters so that we can have a good future but now we are told that its not a pledge but only an aspiration. So, our good future may not be, afterall. Our cage used to be our country but now its only a cage.</p>
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		<title>By: SS Stirrer</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-113820</link>
		<dc:creator>SS Stirrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask K Shan if CHicago or San Francisco has an army? How come we as a city have an army ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask K Shan if CHicago or San Francisco has an army? How come we as a city have an army ?</p>
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		<title>By: Siapa Ini Khairy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/we-the-citizens-of-no-country/comment-page-2/#comment-113646</link>
		<dc:creator>Siapa Ini Khairy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Donaldson, 

Thanks for the reply. Appreciate your position on the need to avoid confusion. Regards to all at TOC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Donaldson, </p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. Appreciate your position on the need to avoid confusion. Regards to all at TOC.</p>
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