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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Cheaper, better, faster&#8221; may just break the camel&#8217;s back</title>
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		<title>By: Miek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/cheaper-better-faster-may-just-break-the-camels-back/comment-page-2/#comment-119957</link>
		<dc:creator>Miek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lim Swee Say says, &quot; Cheaper, Better, Faster&quot;!  
Talk is cheap, my grandmother can also say mumble out these words if she is paid $150,000.00 per month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lim Swee Say says, &#8221; Cheaper, Better, Faster&#8221;!<br />
Talk is cheap, my grandmother can also say mumble out these words if she is paid $150,000.00 per month.</p>
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		<title>By: Miek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You believe in the government&#039;s bullshit on Cheaper, Better, Faster?
Let me say one thing, Good things ain&#039;t cheap, Cheap things aint good! You pay peanuts, you get cheap rotten stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You believe in the government&#8217;s bullshit on Cheaper, Better, Faster?<br />
Let me say one thing, Good things ain&#8217;t cheap, Cheap things aint good! You pay peanuts, you get cheap rotten stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: ACACIA</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/cheaper-better-faster-may-just-break-the-camels-back/comment-page-2/#comment-119758</link>
		<dc:creator>ACACIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>55) When Lim SS uttered those words I thought what a stupid statement from an intelligent guy. But on second thoughts, they&#039;re not so smart after all. My goodness we have all these people runnning our country and making statements like these, what are they thinking? My vote goes to the opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55) When Lim SS uttered those words I thought what a stupid statement from an intelligent guy. But on second thoughts, they&#8217;re not so smart after all. My goodness we have all these people runnning our country and making statements like these, what are they thinking? My vote goes to the opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Online Shmonline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Online Shmonline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why are my cooments still under moderation since Dec 2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why are my cooments still under moderation since Dec 2?</p>
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		<title>By: Followers of NATO Leaders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Followers of NATO Leaders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we Singapore should be cheaper, better and faster. BUT let us start with all our leaders first. Beginning with our President, the Prime Minister, the MM, the SMs, and especially NTUC Chief Minister-without-Portfolio Lim Swee Say, the very loud mouth guy who uttered the words: Cheaper, Better and Faster.

If our leaders, and especial Lim Swee Say, cannot do it, then they should just 
SHUT UP and SIT DOWN!

As we can obviously see in the example of MM Lee. When he becomes older, he became Highly Expensive, Not As Good As Before, and Very Much Slower. Yet, nobody, not even his own son nor Lim Swee Say dares to even utter a word of criticism about him. Why???

Why should we common citizens do the biddings of those who themselves are not willing or not able to do the things they want us to do? 

Pragmatism, my foot! NATO is the correct word to use!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we Singapore should be cheaper, better and faster. BUT let us start with all our leaders first. Beginning with our President, the Prime Minister, the MM, the SMs, and especially NTUC Chief Minister-without-Portfolio Lim Swee Say, the very loud mouth guy who uttered the words: Cheaper, Better and Faster.</p>
<p>If our leaders, and especial Lim Swee Say, cannot do it, then they should just<br />
SHUT UP and SIT DOWN!</p>
<p>As we can obviously see in the example of MM Lee. When he becomes older, he became Highly Expensive, Not As Good As Before, and Very Much Slower. Yet, nobody, not even his own son nor Lim Swee Say dares to even utter a word of criticism about him. Why???</p>
<p>Why should we common citizens do the biddings of those who themselves are not willing or not able to do the things they want us to do? </p>
<p>Pragmatism, my foot! NATO is the correct word to use!</p>
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		<title>By: Compassionate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Compassionate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop moaning brudders.. why talk about Vivian Balakrishnan, Lim Swee Say etc?

when you have a chance to vote, what do you do? you vote them in. YOu get what you deserve. Have the courage to change things instead of just moaning about it.

Soon, foreigners will be taking your votes as they become citizens. Soon your real salary will be lower than it was 15 years ago. (it already is lower than it was 10 yrs ago.  

More good years ???  we are such fools. easily cowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop moaning brudders.. why talk about Vivian Balakrishnan, Lim Swee Say etc?</p>
<p>when you have a chance to vote, what do you do? you vote them in. YOu get what you deserve. Have the courage to change things instead of just moaning about it.</p>
<p>Soon, foreigners will be taking your votes as they become citizens. Soon your real salary will be lower than it was 15 years ago. (it already is lower than it was 10 yrs ago.  </p>
<p>More good years ???  we are such fools. easily cowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Teo CW</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/cheaper-better-faster-may-just-break-the-camels-back/comment-page-2/#comment-119428</link>
		<dc:creator>Teo CW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current employment situation is a manifestation of modern slavery. I can only pray &amp; hope that this will catch the attention of worldwide human rights organizations &amp; boycott trading with Singapore. &amp; this will hit the incompetent elites where it hurt most. Their pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current employment situation is a manifestation of modern slavery. I can only pray &amp; hope that this will catch the attention of worldwide human rights organizations &amp; boycott trading with Singapore. &amp; this will hit the incompetent elites where it hurt most. Their pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Yang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking about Dubai World. Just wait and see wthether the GIC will reveal more losses in this investment.  I think we will have shocking christmas present for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking about Dubai World. Just wait and see wthether the GIC will reveal more losses in this investment.  I think we will have shocking christmas present for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dulai Peanot</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/cheaper-better-faster-may-just-break-the-camels-back/comment-page-2/#comment-118887</link>
		<dc:creator>Dulai Peanot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I not sure why Singaporeans, so-called highly educated and 1st world, choose to have a weak Opposition presence in parliament where effectively, the ruling party can get any of its bills passed If it really wants to. Correct the me if I wrong. 

After decades, I still find this a Mystery.

Almost maciam like ILLOGICAL to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I not sure why Singaporeans, so-called highly educated and 1st world, choose to have a weak Opposition presence in parliament where effectively, the ruling party can get any of its bills passed If it really wants to. Correct the me if I wrong. </p>
<p>After decades, I still find this a Mystery.</p>
<p>Almost maciam like ILLOGICAL to me.</p>
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		<title>By: lim</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/cheaper-better-faster-may-just-break-the-camels-back/comment-page-1/#comment-118867</link>
		<dc:creator>lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@zero
Frankly, the opposition should be given a chance. With only 2 opp MPs in parliament, when it comes to voting on policies, what do you think will be the majority votes?

Do you like the compulsory CPF Life scheme? Do you seriously believe you will live many years beyond 85... I don&#039;t like it, but I have no say. As far as I am concern, the only way is to have a balance in power. Deny the ruling party 2/3 majority, so that they cannot just bulldoze it thro&#039; parliament.

True, the oppositions are untested, but it is just like having children, can you guarantee that your children will be born healthy, free from defects, and achieve great things in life? So, if you can&#039;t, then don&#039;t have children, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zero<br />
Frankly, the opposition should be given a chance. With only 2 opp MPs in parliament, when it comes to voting on policies, what do you think will be the majority votes?</p>
<p>Do you like the compulsory CPF Life scheme? Do you seriously believe you will live many years beyond 85&#8230; I don&#8217;t like it, but I have no say. As far as I am concern, the only way is to have a balance in power. Deny the ruling party 2/3 majority, so that they cannot just bulldoze it thro&#8217; parliament.</p>
<p>True, the oppositions are untested, but it is just like having children, can you guarantee that your children will be born healthy, free from defects, and achieve great things in life? So, if you can&#8217;t, then don&#8217;t have children, right?</p>
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		<title>By: loop</title>
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		<dc:creator>loop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look what happen to Dubai World.  They had been living on borrowed money all this while.  Anyone knows if Dubai is going to survive this crisis?  I&#039;m sure they can but they will have to sell off their assets at a steep discount.  Just realised that a small private bank with a Singapore office (formerly under AIG) has Dubai Investor.  Oops! They are going to lose all their clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look what happen to Dubai World.  They had been living on borrowed money all this while.  Anyone knows if Dubai is going to survive this crisis?  I&#8217;m sure they can but they will have to sell off their assets at a steep discount.  Just realised that a small private bank with a Singapore office (formerly under AIG) has Dubai Investor.  Oops! They are going to lose all their clients.</p>
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		<title>By: alex tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zero

we wont know what will the Opposition candidates will do if they are voted in power but what we do know is what will happen if we vote in the PAP. 

it will be very naive for Singaporeans to think the PAP will be satisfied with their millionaire salaries.

i wouldnt be surprised if the PAP Ministers raise their salaries by another million after the next GE if they get voted in simply because there are no &quot;credible&quot; or &quot;capable&quot; Opposition worth voting for. 

we will forever be trapped in the vicious cycle of helplessness should we vote the PAP in again.  they have not been listening for the past 44 years, whats another 5 years to them? complain all you like, &quot;get out of my uncaring elite face&quot; will be their reply(in the form of feigning ignorance) to you.

i urge all Singaporeans to go for anything-but-PAP.

vote for Change, vote the PAP out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zero</p>
<p>we wont know what will the Opposition candidates will do if they are voted in power but what we do know is what will happen if we vote in the PAP. </p>
<p>it will be very naive for Singaporeans to think the PAP will be satisfied with their millionaire salaries.</p>
<p>i wouldnt be surprised if the PAP Ministers raise their salaries by another million after the next GE if they get voted in simply because there are no &#8220;credible&#8221; or &#8220;capable&#8221; Opposition worth voting for. </p>
<p>we will forever be trapped in the vicious cycle of helplessness should we vote the PAP in again.  they have not been listening for the past 44 years, whats another 5 years to them? complain all you like, &#8220;get out of my uncaring elite face&#8221; will be their reply(in the form of feigning ignorance) to you.</p>
<p>i urge all Singaporeans to go for anything-but-PAP.</p>
<p>vote for Change, vote the PAP out</p>
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		<title>By: Economist</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/cheaper-better-faster-may-just-break-the-camels-back/comment-page-1/#comment-118806</link>
		<dc:creator>Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>46) Komenos

If I am in the govt, I would import MORE foreigners regardless whether they are talent or not.

1) I would have more people who would vote for my party.

2) More foreigner PRs  -&gt;  Higher HDB prices  (COV is $100k now)-&gt;  (i)Locals who cannot afford flat have their family line die with them, hence less pesky new generation of poor &amp; rebellious (ii) Those who can afford flat bought at high market will be too scared to vote against my party, in fear that their flat prices would fall  -&gt; My party holds on to POWER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>46) Komenos</p>
<p>If I am in the govt, I would import MORE foreigners regardless whether they are talent or not.</p>
<p>1) I would have more people who would vote for my party.</p>
<p>2) More foreigner PRs  -&gt;  Higher HDB prices  (COV is $100k now)-&gt;  (i)Locals who cannot afford flat have their family line die with them, hence less pesky new generation of poor &amp; rebellious (ii) Those who can afford flat bought at high market will be too scared to vote against my party, in fear that their flat prices would fall  -&gt; My party holds on to POWER.</p>
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		<title>By: Komenos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Komenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, I seriously hate the amount of &quot;talents&quot; they are bringing into Singapore. I&#039;m a 19 year old student and I still have friends who believe that PAP is still the best choice for Singapore despite the evidence that I show to them. 

On the other hand, I&#039;ve friends who have &quot;awaken&quot; and start to question what the government is doing is correct. Sometimes I really feel like shouting get the hell out of here FTs in areas like train etc. 

Anyway, PAP should really get this correct. If next time you say someone is a talent, make sure they&#039;re talented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, I seriously hate the amount of &#8220;talents&#8221; they are bringing into Singapore. I&#8217;m a 19 year old student and I still have friends who believe that PAP is still the best choice for Singapore despite the evidence that I show to them. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;ve friends who have &#8220;awaken&#8221; and start to question what the government is doing is correct. Sometimes I really feel like shouting get the hell out of here FTs in areas like train etc. </p>
<p>Anyway, PAP should really get this correct. If next time you say someone is a talent, make sure they&#8217;re talented.</p>
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		<title>By: quitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>quitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@WeeKiat
can understand how you feeling. graduating from the local uni soon
and the job market is badddd. few companies hiring unless
you want work in the govt.
TOO many talented foreginers in uni that average Joe like us going to suffer
even with a degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@WeeKiat<br />
can understand how you feeling. graduating from the local uni soon<br />
and the job market is badddd. few companies hiring unless<br />
you want work in the govt.<br />
TOO many talented foreginers in uni that average Joe like us going to suffer<br />
even with a degree.</p>
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		<title>By: where's my cheese?</title>
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		<dc:creator>where's my cheese?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really Dread to think about my future if there is still no Change and the turnout still does not tally with the results.

My heart has been Broken, Shattered and Crushed 2 times in the last 2 elections when the Turnout did not Tally with result.

I not sure how to take it this time round if still no Change.

Its living hell for me with the current situation where the opposition is basically not able to stop any thing from being passed. 

I feel like a Helpless citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really Dread to think about my future if there is still no Change and the turnout still does not tally with the results.</p>
<p>My heart has been Broken, Shattered and Crushed 2 times in the last 2 elections when the Turnout did not Tally with result.</p>
<p>I not sure how to take it this time round if still no Change.</p>
<p>Its living hell for me with the current situation where the opposition is basically not able to stop any thing from being passed. </p>
<p>I feel like a Helpless citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Economist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To 42) TanAhTeck:
&quot;Is this my country?&quot;

Technically we are not a country according to Law minister. We are only a city.

That is why it is perfectly alright for foreigners to just come in freely with almost non-existent restrictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 42) TanAhTeck:<br />
&#8220;Is this my country?&#8221;</p>
<p>Technically we are not a country according to Law minister. We are only a city.</p>
<p>That is why it is perfectly alright for foreigners to just come in freely with almost non-existent restrictions.</p>
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		<title>By: TanAhTeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>TanAhTeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>41) WeeKiat

I understand your anguish. My HDB is FULL of foreigners now, so is my workplace.

Is this my country? I ask myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>41) WeeKiat</p>
<p>I understand your anguish. My HDB is FULL of foreigners now, so is my workplace.</p>
<p>Is this my country? I ask myself.</p>
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		<title>By: WeeKiat</title>
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		<dc:creator>WeeKiat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Could this be due to competition from foreign workers in these lower-skilled, lower-paid jobs?&quot;

Yes! Yes! Yes! I am an NUS grad and I am forced away from jobs too, unless I am willing to take $2.2k.

Thanks to Foreigners Action Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Could this be due to competition from foreign workers in these lower-skilled, lower-paid jobs?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes! Yes! Yes! I am an NUS grad and I am forced away from jobs too, unless I am willing to take $2.2k.</p>
<p>Thanks to Foreigners Action Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Yang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Zero. Don&#039;t be so navie. You think the present PAP leaders will read your letter. Wait long long. If they have the compassion for the people. They will act without been told. That&#039;s the kind leadership that we want to see, not waiting for us to make noise that act on it. So call elite????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Zero. Don&#8217;t be so navie. You think the present PAP leaders will read your letter. Wait long long. If they have the compassion for the people. They will act without been told. That&#8217;s the kind leadership that we want to see, not waiting for us to make noise that act on it. So call elite????</p>
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