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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/does-singapore-have-a-climate-change-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-137343</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi everyone,
let&#039;s keep the tone of the comments salutary and courteous shall we?   We all have a role to play in demonstrating that we are capable of  managing a free space for expressing personal opinions respectfully.
I do have one comment about our nations&#039;s environmental policy: like  everything else, it seems pragmatic in principle.  My concerns have to  do with how fast the climate is changing.  I would like to highlight  that our port, as a sector of our economy is still overwhelmingly  large.  And this is under threat from the melting of the north pole in  the summer time.  If the scientists are accurate about the rate of  melting in the North Pole, we could see an ice-free North Pole by 2030.   This also means that commercial tankers will no longer have to sail the  &quot;long way&quot; from China, Korea, Japan to North America and Europe.  They  can sail via the North Pole.  As of last year, there was already a test  sail by 2 tankers in fall because enough ice had melted to make the  route possible.
This is cheaper, shorter and faster and we can be sure it would be  the route of choice in the future.  This also means that Singapore&#039;s  significance as a port will surely diminish.  Surely, this will impact   how many people we can support on our little island (strength of the  overall economy, unemployment rates, government tax revenues etc), not  to mention our standard of living.
Climate change is real and I would like us to focus on the real  issues of mitigation and adaptation.
 
thanks
Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi everyone,<br />
let&#8217;s keep the tone of the comments salutary and courteous shall we?   We all have a role to play in demonstrating that we are capable of  managing a free space for expressing personal opinions respectfully.<br />
I do have one comment about our nations&#8217;s environmental policy: like  everything else, it seems pragmatic in principle.  My concerns have to  do with how fast the climate is changing.  I would like to highlight  that our port, as a sector of our economy is still overwhelmingly  large.  And this is under threat from the melting of the north pole in  the summer time.  If the scientists are accurate about the rate of  melting in the North Pole, we could see an ice-free North Pole by 2030.   This also means that commercial tankers will no longer have to sail the  &#8220;long way&#8221; from China, Korea, Japan to North America and Europe.  They  can sail via the North Pole.  As of last year, there was already a test  sail by 2 tankers in fall because enough ice had melted to make the  route possible.<br />
This is cheaper, shorter and faster and we can be sure it would be  the route of choice in the future.  This also means that Singapore&#8217;s  significance as a port will surely diminish.  Surely, this will impact   how many people we can support on our little island (strength of the  overall economy, unemployment rates, government tax revenues etc), not  to mention our standard of living.<br />
Climate change is real and I would like us to focus on the real  issues of mitigation and adaptation.<br />
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thanks<br />
Ray</p>
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		<title>By: starch</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/does-singapore-have-a-climate-change-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-122223</link>
		<dc:creator>starch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the earth needs is a cut in current emissions, not just a hypothetical slower growth rate.  in any event, whatever singapore does or doesn&#039;t do isn&#039;t going to matter much if the major polluters like china, the us, russia and india don&#039;t make radical changes.  they need to increase taxes on carbon and subsidise green energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the earth needs is a cut in current emissions, not just a hypothetical slower growth rate.  in any event, whatever singapore does or doesn&#8217;t do isn&#8217;t going to matter much if the major polluters like china, the us, russia and india don&#8217;t make radical changes.  they need to increase taxes on carbon and subsidise green energy.</p>
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		<title>By: bored</title>
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		<dc:creator>bored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will always be reasons and sacrifices.
It&#039;s a matter of priority. 
Just appears right now that at the top of the list to most power-players is the economy. Fully understandable given how capitalism has morphed and permeated itself globally. 
With already so many documentaries available and so many articles in the papers.
What else can be done? 
How do you think individuals will be spurred into actions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will always be reasons and sacrifices.<br />
It&#8217;s a matter of priority.<br />
Just appears right now that at the top of the list to most power-players is the economy. Fully understandable given how capitalism has morphed and permeated itself globally.<br />
With already so many documentaries available and so many articles in the papers.<br />
What else can be done?<br />
How do you think individuals will be spurred into actions?</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 51</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/does-singapore-have-a-climate-change-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-122028</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 51</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: preston loon</title>
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		<dc:creator>preston loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our former PM LEE once said this,I quote

                            &quot;Even the air we breathe is not free&quot;
How prophetic and refreshing his words were 37 yrs ago.I could not recalled any
world leader said anything about pollution at that time.Have you?
          Reply to #20-young01
          Tell me,in what context did President Obama said about LKY  by calling him a
Legendary?.Come on guys,give that Old Man credit when credit is due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our former PM LEE once said this,I quote</p>
<p>                            &#8220;Even the air we breathe is not free&#8221;<br />
How prophetic and refreshing his words were 37 yrs ago.I could not recalled any<br />
world leader said anything about pollution at that time.Have you?<br />
          Reply to #20-young01<br />
          Tell me,in what context did President Obama said about LKY  by calling him a<br />
Legendary?.Come on guys,give that Old Man credit when credit is due.</p>
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		<title>By: Agents Provocateur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agents Provocateur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ preston loon

In a similar vein, Robert Neville of I am Legend. The book, not the silly movie with Will Smith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ preston loon</p>
<p>In a similar vein, Robert Neville of I am Legend. The book, not the silly movie with Will Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: young01</title>
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		<dc:creator>young01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ preston loon

Do note that Hitler and Mao Zedong were also &quot;legendary&quot;. It is a neutral adjective. Stop manipulating it to suit your own beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ preston loon</p>
<p>Do note that Hitler and Mao Zedong were also &#8220;legendary&#8221;. It is a neutral adjective. Stop manipulating it to suit your own beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Singapore has done better than many other countries, but as a successful state, we&#039;re expected &#039;to do more&#039;. 

Nothing irritates me than those three words nowadays. Those three words have become a substitute for debate. It already assumes that there&#039;s a problem, hence a need to do something about it. Many of us still aren&#039;t convince there&#039;s a problem to begin with.

And those three words also eschews any responsibility for those who said it to come up with practical solutions - practical as in solutions that will not damage our economy, increase unemployment, increase taxation, and increase energy cost. 

And in case such impact can be compartmentalized, well, think again. It&#039;ll probably also mean higher hospital bills, more expensive telephone bills, etc. 

Finally, those who said those words usually aren&#039;t the ones who had to pay the bill at the end of the day. 

What if what the government has offered is the most they dared to go, beyond which Singapore must endure higher unemployment, higher energy cost and lower economic growth? It might be acceptable by some &#039;to do more&#039;, but not to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Singapore has done better than many other countries, but as a successful state, we&#8217;re expected &#8216;to do more&#8217;. </p>
<p>Nothing irritates me than those three words nowadays. Those three words have become a substitute for debate. It already assumes that there&#8217;s a problem, hence a need to do something about it. Many of us still aren&#8217;t convince there&#8217;s a problem to begin with.</p>
<p>And those three words also eschews any responsibility for those who said it to come up with practical solutions &#8211; practical as in solutions that will not damage our economy, increase unemployment, increase taxation, and increase energy cost. </p>
<p>And in case such impact can be compartmentalized, well, think again. It&#8217;ll probably also mean higher hospital bills, more expensive telephone bills, etc. </p>
<p>Finally, those who said those words usually aren&#8217;t the ones who had to pay the bill at the end of the day. </p>
<p>What if what the government has offered is the most they dared to go, beyond which Singapore must endure higher unemployment, higher energy cost and lower economic growth? It might be acceptable by some &#8216;to do more&#8217;, but not to me.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 18 Dec 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 18 Dec 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kingrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore govt&#039;s climate change policy is nothing but a big wayang show since Day 1. They don;t have anything but try to create something out of nothing when push comes to shove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore govt&#8217;s climate change policy is nothing but a big wayang show since Day 1. They don;t have anything but try to create something out of nothing when push comes to shove.</p>
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		<title>By: preston loon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/does-singapore-have-a-climate-change-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-121834</link>
		<dc:creator>preston loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believed most  of you who criticized the government for not having a green policy is totally naive or ignorant in what is going on in Singapore.Maybe,they are not born in
the 60s and the70s.Compare to other cities like Bangkok,Manila,LK,Jakarta,S&#039;pore
has the least air pollution.Why do you think that we have restriction of car ownership?Why do you think that you have to pay a hefty fee for driving down to the city core?You may argue that the PAP&#039;s main motive is to make money.But you have
forgotten that PAP uses the same stone to kill the 2nd bird-air pollution.That Old Man
started fighting pollution 40yrs ago and way in advance than most western leaders.
No wonder, even President Obama called LKY,the Legendary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believed most  of you who criticized the government for not having a green policy is totally naive or ignorant in what is going on in Singapore.Maybe,they are not born in<br />
the 60s and the70s.Compare to other cities like Bangkok,Manila,LK,Jakarta,S&#8217;pore<br />
has the least air pollution.Why do you think that we have restriction of car ownership?Why do you think that you have to pay a hefty fee for driving down to the city core?You may argue that the PAP&#8217;s main motive is to make money.But you have<br />
forgotten that PAP uses the same stone to kill the 2nd bird-air pollution.That Old Man<br />
started fighting pollution 40yrs ago and way in advance than most western leaders.<br />
No wonder, even President Obama called LKY,the Legendary.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew leung</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://web1.env.gov.sg/cms/ar2009/content/mitigating-climate.html

&quot;Singapore is doing its part to tackle climate change through its environmental friendly policies and actions. However, due to Singapore’s limited land area and geographical constraints, large-scale adoption of alternative energy technologies such as hydropower, geothermal energy or wind energy is unlikely. The forms of renewable energy that will be more applicable to Singapore besides waste-to-energy would thus include solar energy and biofuels. However these sources of renewable energy are not yet cost-competitive with conventional fossil fuels. Hence, we are reliant on imported fossil fuels, such as natural gas, to meet our energy needs at present.

The main contribution to Singapore&#039;s greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions is carbon dioxide (CO2) from the use of energy to meet development and human needs. We have already switched much of our power supply to natural gas, which is relatively less carbon-intensive. Hence our key strategy in addressing climate change is to improve our energy efficiency. While our economy is expected to expand in the future and our population is expected to grow, improving our energy efficiency would allow us to meet the growing energy demand with less energy resources.

Achieving greater energy efficiency would require the efforts of all stakeholders, including households and the private sector. NEA is actively working to raise public awareness of the benefits of energy efficiency, such as educating consumers on the benefits of energy-efficient appliances and co-funding energy audits for companies and buildings.

There is also a consensus amongst the scientific community that climate change is a real and serious threat that we cannot ignore. As a low-lying island state, Singapore will need forward-looking policies to prepare for and adapt to the impacts of climate change. As a result of our environmental and developmental planning in the past, there are existing measures in place that can help to address certain potential climate change impacts in the short to medium term. NEA has also commissioned a two-year study to assess the possible longer term effects and impacts of climate change on Singapore, which is expected to be completed in end-2009.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://web1.env.gov.sg/cms/ar2009/content/mitigating-climate.html" rel="nofollow">http://web1.env.gov.sg/cms/ar2009/content/mitigating-climate.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Singapore is doing its part to tackle climate change through its environmental friendly policies and actions. However, due to Singapore’s limited land area and geographical constraints, large-scale adoption of alternative energy technologies such as hydropower, geothermal energy or wind energy is unlikely. The forms of renewable energy that will be more applicable to Singapore besides waste-to-energy would thus include solar energy and biofuels. However these sources of renewable energy are not yet cost-competitive with conventional fossil fuels. Hence, we are reliant on imported fossil fuels, such as natural gas, to meet our energy needs at present.</p>
<p>The main contribution to Singapore&#8217;s greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions is carbon dioxide (CO2) from the use of energy to meet development and human needs. We have already switched much of our power supply to natural gas, which is relatively less carbon-intensive. Hence our key strategy in addressing climate change is to improve our energy efficiency. While our economy is expected to expand in the future and our population is expected to grow, improving our energy efficiency would allow us to meet the growing energy demand with less energy resources.</p>
<p>Achieving greater energy efficiency would require the efforts of all stakeholders, including households and the private sector. NEA is actively working to raise public awareness of the benefits of energy efficiency, such as educating consumers on the benefits of energy-efficient appliances and co-funding energy audits for companies and buildings.</p>
<p>There is also a consensus amongst the scientific community that climate change is a real and serious threat that we cannot ignore. As a low-lying island state, Singapore will need forward-looking policies to prepare for and adapt to the impacts of climate change. As a result of our environmental and developmental planning in the past, there are existing measures in place that can help to address certain potential climate change impacts in the short to medium term. NEA has also commissioned a two-year study to assess the possible longer term effects and impacts of climate change on Singapore, which is expected to be completed in end-2009.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Abhijit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhijit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the insightful article. Going green is an economic and not a moral imperative. That&#039;s fine as long as we are going green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insightful article. Going green is an economic and not a moral imperative. That&#8217;s fine as long as we are going green.</p>
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		<title>By: What Climategate?</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Climategate?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wobbly Guy:

What Climategate? I&#039;ve asked for people to point out the &quot;utter b*llsh*t&quot;. Lots of crazy ang mohs spewing paranoia, and only one person could point me to his methodology, but TOC deleted my detailed response.

So I&#039;ll just say this: 

People with specialized knowledge are misusing it to spin lies to the public. And they know people like me with the same knowledge will see through their manipulation immediately. But hey, as long as they can capture the attention of the majority who don&#039;t understand how they are lying, they win. 

There is nothing I detest more than people like these, and they are *not* the CRU scientists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wobbly Guy:</p>
<p>What Climategate? I&#8217;ve asked for people to point out the &#8220;utter b*llsh*t&#8221;. Lots of crazy ang mohs spewing paranoia, and only one person could point me to his methodology, but TOC deleted my detailed response.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll just say this: </p>
<p>People with specialized knowledge are misusing it to spin lies to the public. And they know people like me with the same knowledge will see through their manipulation immediately. But hey, as long as they can capture the attention of the majority who don&#8217;t understand how they are lying, they win. </p>
<p>There is nothing I detest more than people like these, and they are *not* the CRU scientists.</p>
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		<title>By: Utopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Utopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you write like you don’t read the newspapers at all.&quot;

Newspapers ? You mean you actually READ the toilet paper that meant for your backside ? U are Uniquely Singaporean indeed !  Little surprise that thy  mind is full of S H I T. You read S H I T, you quote S H I T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you write like you don’t read the newspapers at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Newspapers ? You mean you actually READ the toilet paper that meant for your backside ? U are Uniquely Singaporean indeed !  Little surprise that thy  mind is full of S H I T. You read S H I T, you quote S H I T.</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi environmentalist #8,

I do read the newspapers but I don&#039;t accept government propaganda at face value. It is the 133rd media in the world, remember? Just because it has been packaged as &quot;climate change&quot; in its presentation, it doesn&#039;t necessarily make it actually part of the climate change agenda. You ought to more discerning of aggressive greenwashing efforts in this country and globally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi environmentalist #8,</p>
<p>I do read the newspapers but I don&#8217;t accept government propaganda at face value. It is the 133rd media in the world, remember? Just because it has been packaged as &#8220;climate change&#8221; in its presentation, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily make it actually part of the climate change agenda. You ought to more discerning of aggressive greenwashing efforts in this country and globally.</p>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
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		<dc:creator>lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crap article, waste my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crap article, waste my time.</p>
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		<title>By: young01</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/does-singapore-have-a-climate-change-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-121773</link>
		<dc:creator>young01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throwing out populist sound bites to make it sound like they are doing something pales in comparison to what the US and Europe have themselves already committed themselves to. Have you not yourself read the papers? Singapore&#039;s &quot;leaders&quot; openly declare that they have &quot;no obligation&quot; whatsoever to reduce their carbon emissions, even though we have such a huge per capita carbon output. This is disgusting and disgraceful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throwing out populist sound bites to make it sound like they are doing something pales in comparison to what the US and Europe have themselves already committed themselves to. Have you not yourself read the papers? Singapore&#8217;s &#8220;leaders&#8221; openly declare that they have &#8220;no obligation&#8221; whatsoever to reduce their carbon emissions, even though we have such a huge per capita carbon output. This is disgusting and disgraceful.</p>
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		<title>By: environmentalist</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/does-singapore-have-a-climate-change-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-121771</link>
		<dc:creator>environmentalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you write like you don&#039;t read the newspapers at all.
of course singapore has a national climate change strategy, doesn&#039;t mean you don&#039;t know it, means we don&#039;t have one!
shouldn&#039;t the standard of the online citizen blogs be higher?
writers are not doing research before they tackle a subject</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you write like you don&#8217;t read the newspapers at all.<br />
of course singapore has a national climate change strategy, doesn&#8217;t mean you don&#8217;t know it, means we don&#8217;t have one!<br />
shouldn&#8217;t the standard of the online citizen blogs be higher?<br />
writers are not doing research before they tackle a subject</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldson</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/does-singapore-have-a-climate-change-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-121746</link>
		<dc:creator>Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4) The Wobbly Guy on	 December 17th, 2009 4.29 pm

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am surprised nobody has yet commented on the scientific scandal of Climategate, which essentially undercuts the purpose of Copenhagen in the first place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/addressing-climategate/
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7273/full/462545a.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4) The Wobbly Guy on	 December 17th, 2009 4.29 pm</p>
<blockquote><p>I am surprised nobody has yet commented on the scientific scandal of Climategate, which essentially undercuts the purpose of Copenhagen in the first place.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/addressing-climategate/" rel="nofollow">http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/addressing-climategate/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7273/full/462545a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7273/full/462545a.html</a></p>
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