What problems do we have in Singapore? If we talk about lets say education and school dropout rates, we compare with East Asia or even the world, those are peanut issues to them, they have far greater things to worry about, teen crimes, drug abuse, terrorist recruitments, gang recruitments etc. And we? Only dropout rates and minor teen crimes.

@poor but not cheap, then work harder to buy a flat.

Actually, if LHL really meant what he said: increasing per capital income, ie. increasing every body’s pay, that should be good… provided it is done through improve productivity.

However, there are 2 suspicious points:

1. how come he didn’t do that earlier? What makes him think that GDP alone will suffice? What makes him think that this is sufficient as well. I honestly think his view is too simplistic. His level is not good enough to be a PM.

2. he is not sincere at all. like you said, it is another one of those marketing lines which seem to help us but in the end ended up fattening his pockets or rather the pigs pocket.

Actually, he needs to make sure that investments by GIC and TH is done properly and makes a minimum rate.

The current standards as demonstrated over the last 20 years is lousy.

Then after reading today’s paper, the PM says, he will raise the Per Capital of the Country. It is impossible since the poor and the jobless increased. Then I realized that he meant to increase the rich even more. By paying millions more dollars to the rich ministers and civil servants, our GDP will naturally increase even though the poor increased. Kudos to the twisted mind of our PM.

If you still remember that MM said in 2008, that we are living in a golden period. What happens next???? I guess you people would already know. The financial crisis falls right after his predictions!!!!!

Its time for him to go down!!!! Period……

Define First World Country Pls. We have toliets and a home? All countries have it and moreover we r sucha tiny city, if we dont even have the basic amendities, then we r worse then HK. We only have MRT in the last decade only, copied from HK.

PAP credit? Pui, it is the people’s credit. In fact, the toliet bowl is not even a credit to the gov at all but due to advances from other countries.

Why First World country , we have 1/5 of our population in such a dire state and we dont even have any welfare? We revise our bills every 3 months compared to the yearly increase or several years increase from other nations.

It is obvious that you r a troll. If u r a liverpool fan, you dont go MU forum and praise liverpool. It stupid right? Now you realize it but too late, we all know you r a troll. You better stay in Outreach and other gov forums and praise all you want.

cant tahun la

hdb price so high!!!

hope 2010 can make hdb REALLY affordable!!!

aiyoyo

post #153 on December 29th, 2009 1.49 pm

yeah, scary thought… -.-”

post #154 on December 29th, 2009 2.28 pm

////Under the PAP, SIngapore has progressed from a third world to become FIRST WORLD nation.////

1st world? this term is used only when it suites them. also, not forgetting its the previous team that did it.

i do not see how a 99-year lease can equate to home ownership. that is a very costly lease with decades of commitment, coupled with an ever increasingly uncertain future. its all too easy to fall deep into debt, how can this be 1st world?

//Under the PAP, SIngapore has progressed from a third world to become FIRST WORLD nation.

A first world nation where the median pay has stagnated for the last decade.

My foot.

What are the contributions to civilization besides tall buildings?

It is built on locking innocent people up for no reason.

“So u r saying it is alright for the PAP to ruin Singapore?”

Under the PAP, SIngapore has progressed from a third world to become FIRST WORLD nation.

then why introduced GRC
do you take us for a FOOL?
unless you want to say
we can raised our kids from birth to university thru thorough expensive tutions/schoolfees..
but we are FOOL enough not to looked after our cpf retirement funds while the pap government helped us to make our cpf investment grow bigger in terms of paper valued while lossin billion$ without blinkin an eyelid…
wow! when is your cpf retirement fund due? may i asked POLITELEE…
are you FOOL enough to let leekuanyew tell you when and how to take your funds out? how about you doin your sex act? leekuanyew provide the 69 idiot guide handbook as well?

Waa, u can even quote PAP members like Lim Hwee Hua and Wong Kan Seng . Most of us dont even know who they are. Did they speak up for the people, speak against the high cost of HDB? I do not know them. They need to earn respect, just like the other 80 unknown PAP, who contributed nothing.

So u r saying it is alright for the PAP to ruin Singapore? It not the rich that is paying the taxes. It is the mass that is the paying the taxes. And the middle class is the most squeeze.

The discussion is namely on pricing (or free pricing of land) for public housing.
Was not the authority targetting for a much higher population. Surely, the planning on such land space was in the pipeline.

Or were they targeting for more foreigners to match the demand of the many new private properties that we are seeing over Singapore which will give the authority a better return proposition.

“surely you should agree that lower prices encourage ‘wastage’. You are right to say that that the poor can barely afford to pay, how will they waste? But the problem is removing land cost lowers prices for everyone, including those who are originally richer and the middle class.”

Isn’t there some qualifying income threshold for the puchase of hdb flats. The country is already taxing the rich & better off middle income in the form of income tax and higher gst through normally higher consumption.

Your method of capturing everyone through high price and then give back to the only deserving is creating everyday tension to those who cannot catch up just because of certain delibrate policy and may convert them to a dependency & having-to-beg mode.

As you know, applying for assistance is a tedious technical obstacle especially for the very group of people who need assistance and any official rejection of any request is sometimes a standard reply which adds more questions rather than answer.