Was wondering when would TOC put this incidence up for discussion…Xia xue is indeed quite brave to put it in her blog while it is still under police “investigation”…
No need to watch CIS vegas or CIS newyork to figure out what actually happened.
Since a diplomat is involved,I am sure the “investigation” would take longer than usual…what say you WKS?
Guess the “car thief” is either here or there…back in romania.

From ‘2) Dude’ I can tell you did not bother to read the full entry and context of what xiaxue wrote about. Her entry is surprisingly investigative this time round and does raise pertinent issues to think about.
It seems quite suspicious that the person who ’stole’ the car had something to do with the embassy. Legally speaking the Sg gov is bound by the UN charter not to press charges against them but it’ll be interesting to see what action the govt is going to take with regards to this.

well, S’pore govt can make it illegal for them to have a car exclusively. make them use our local cabbies & contribute to our economy for a period of time. they can use there cars after that period of penalty is over.

of course, “repeat offenders” who have a lousy track record will have that period extended longer & longer.

on anot?! :P

Was the discussion on ST muzzled? http://comment.straitstimes.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9&page=6&order=desc

whole affair sounds wrong especially given that one of the victims passed away, only one month after getting married!

as expected. you won’t hear of this in the MSM ever again.

The amazing thing is the MSM never revealed the nationality or race of the driver despite having eye witnesses. If the person was asian looking, you bet that would have been in the reports.

The events following the accident are really suspicious. The lost report of the vehicle was made about the same time as the accident as stated by ST. For all you know, knowing that he is in big trouble – drink driving maybe – collaborators quickly advice the culprit to report the vehicle was stolen. Smell a dead rat.

So what the vehicle carried a CD plate (for diplomat)? The police must probe fully into this accident as a life is lost and others are seriously injured in hospital fighting for their life.

Just as an aside, given that we do not know for sure who the culprit is at the moment.

If a criminal has diplomatic status, his or her home governments can be pressured into lifting their diplomatic immunity or be extradited for home prosecution. There are ways to punish errant ones who commit crimes abroad. US has expelled a few diplomats in the past for major crimes and misdemeanours or strongly recommended their immunity be lifted for prosecution.

XiaXue,
did the MSM editor-level person who killed someone with the person’s car stop and give aid to the person whom this person hit?
What’s your comment?

This diplomat is a Caucasian right?
From pics found about him, he seems like he can be a flamboyant person.
How can it be proven that he did not drove the car himself and it was actually stolen and that is what hit someone?

Is singapore safe?

According to Xia Xue blog , the MSM did not publish the photos of this caucasian .
these are shown here , some with ladies of the ….. party? gathering? i have no idea. But here they are. He quite handsome :
http://xiaxue.blogspot.com/2009/12/wah-being-diplomat-is-so-shiok.html

SIngapore is pathetic, we even offering protection to some white monkey from eastern europe.

Let make it plain and clear, Romanians are look down even by their own fellow whites in europe ,but I guess for Singapore the colour white is superior regardless of how rubbish it really is.

TOC should take the initiative and request from the Police & MFA updates on the progress made into the investigation.

There appears to be a media blackout on our MSM reporters pursuing the investigation case . TOC, can you do it? Post your request for us to see, also the replies when you get them.

Frankly, it is highly suspicious that some embassy official need to go back to his embassy office at 3 am (around the time of the accident) to prepare an urgent report, especially after a night out at the KTV. What sort of reporting require that urgency for him to go back personally in the middle of the night ?

I suppose it is the duty of the police to verify such details to detect whether the embassy official is lying there will be

Frankly, it is highly suspicious that some embassy official need to go back to his embassy office at 3 am (around the time of the accident) to prepare an urgent report, especially after a night out at the KTV. What sort of reporting require that urgency for him to go back personally in the middle of the night ?

I suppose it is the duty of the police to verify such details to detect whether the embassy official is lying there will be

Frankly, it is highly suspicious that some embassy official need to go back to his embassy office personally at 3 am (around the time of the accident) to prepare an urgent report, especially after a night out at the KTV. What sort of reporting require that urgency for him to go back personally in the middle of the night ?

I suppose it is the duty of the police to verify such details to detect whether the embassy official is lying and if the police fails to verify to do so, then it is highly probable that there is a cover up to protect such diplomat !

I think WKS better watch out that this case is properly afforded it rightful attention otherwise it may turn up to be another fiasco added to his feathers.

Everything is rather fishy and this idiot of a diplomat has no guts to admit what he had done maybe under the influence of alcohol merrymaking with all the beauties as shown in Xiaxue photos.

Fabricated all the stories to distract the police. Justice must be done !! Only a skunk can do such a thing.

this is a litmus test to see that there is no seperate laws for the rich & influential and the average joes.

MSM did a detailed write-up on the culprit who torched the PAP MP, went so far to trash his personal reputation. now its time to do the same, regardless.

come on, MSM, time to prove you’re not PAP’s mouthpiece (or are you?)! :P

Agreed the MSM is remaining silent on this.. but really is it too much for the opposition to bring this up? Messers Low, Chiam or Sylvia where are your voices when the people need them?

sigh … if it is true, then we are just like what the west calls us in the past “sick men of the east”

the white supremacy still exist, somehow, someway.

lim

post #19 on December 29th, 2009 1.58 am

////Agreed the MSM is remaining silent on this.. ////

thanks.

////…but really is it too much for the opposition to bring this up? Messers Low, Chiam or Sylvia where are your voices when the people need them?////

what can the 3 voices really amount to? there is only 1 voice that can “bring the house down”. lol…

1) Are embassy cars allowed to be used for non official purposes? Surely there must be a distinction between official business use and personal use (KTV) when the need to claim diplomatic immunity arises.

2) It is clear that diplomatic immunity privilege will be invoked if this theft were shown to be fabricated. Hopefully, this privilege does not cover blatant drunk-driving and hit(s) and run(s).

3) Our Government will NEVER have the balls to prosecute a diplomat, let alone throwing him in jail. Hopefully, they can insist some monetary restitution be offered to offset hospital and rehab costs for the 3 victims. As it is, 1 of them is already permanently a vegetable with no hope of recovery.

This whole affair is getting more suspicious by the minute. When you read about the article about the poor guy being taken off life support, you only realize that the MSM slyly skirts the details and only mentions at the bottom of the article that the victim was involved in the ‘double hit-and-run accident’. No way no how, no mention of what the accident was and how it happened. Just a few farcically arranged words for you to figure out on your own.

2nd, the ambassador’s defence that he had to return to the ambassy after a KTV (I really question the mental workings behind this. KTV -> Workplace. hmm. really?)at 3AM. Now you know that Singapore is in the GMT+8 timezone and Romania is in GMT+2, i.e Romania is 6hours behind SG time. Knowing that the accident happened at about 3am, Romanian time would be at around 9pm.
Now, the Romanian civil service must be extremely hardworking that they clock long hours that warrants them to still be at work in the office at 9pm?

Perhaps TOC should upgrade this to a frontpage article? Obviously the MSM is playing along and being mum about this whole diabacle. The accident happend on 17 DEC. 12 days have passed and somehow this whole incident hasnt seen the light of day in the MSM again.

Of course all this is only speculation, but then again in the total MSM blackout, wouldn’t speculation become rife?

The embassy thus far has not approached nor visited (even thought one of the poor men ahs already passed away) the families involved despite 12 full days after the incident. Now why would this be so?

If the embassy staff were to visit the families involved, naturally the ambassador is expected to be present as well. Perhaps the ambassador was the one driving on that fateful day (or there might have even been more than 1 person from the embassy in the car), could the ambassador be afraid of being recognised by the victims as the driver of the car who knocked them down?

The timing of the stolen car report is also very suspicious. Why the 2hour lag in filing the report? Why the meteoric coincidence in timing of the report together with the accident? And last of all which rational criminal in their right state of mind would want to steal an embassy car? That area itself easily holds much nicer, posh-er and ’safer’ (civilian) cars to steal from.

It is very sad that back in 1994 our govt still had the guts to stand up to the US and honour the caning sentence for Michael Fay.

15 years later our supposedly ‘new’ (but essentially still the same old farts) group of leaders cant even confront a puny Eastern European country.

I doubt anything would come out of it really. It probably just die down after a while as long as the ST does not report.

Just ask around, how many singaporeans know that its happened, or still remember. Regretfully really…

Our Police Force seems super efficient in catching local culprits of hit-and-run cases. They are always boasting about it but despite numerous witnessess this time, they are clueless. Hmmm, is it SPF or SPG?

here is an interesting article on newsweek back in the days of Michael Fay…remember him? Vandal boy?

http://www.corpun.com/awfay9405.htm

please read the part about the thai diplomat son….here’s an excerpt :

Investigators at Tanglin Police Division Headquarters set out to stop the spree. In the early hours of Oct. 6 they laid an ambush near Chancery Court. The operation paid off. Between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m. police chased down a red Mercedes and arrested 16-year-old International School student Shiu Chi Ho of Hong Kong and a Thai diplomat’s son. Shiu had been driving his father’s car without a license. The two were taken to the police station. The Thai boy was released once his diplomatic status was determined.

Diplomats here has immunity…you can draw your own conclusion here on this case. What I am saying here is Don’t expect to see this crime solved on CRIMEWATCH.

My condolences to the victims and their family.

man against the tank

post #28 on December 29th, 2009 1.20 pm

////Diplomats here has immunity…you can draw your own conclusion here on this case. What I am saying here is Don’t expect to see this crime solved on CRIMEWATCH.////

i agree partially, our men in blue will most likely solve the case, because they are S’poreans with families & friends here, they too would like to know pre-emptively what happens if the victims are their family members or friends. the morale sapping part is to know they may not be able to let justice run the full course…. :?

diplomatic immunity is a not unique to S’pore, we must still do what we can to prevent such sad lose of lives. for example, not taking personal safety for granted.

I thought the chinese pprs reported smethng else in today’s edition? can smeone translate ovr here?