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		<title>By: andrew leung</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/in-pursuit-of-political-truth-at-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-124525</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12) Justin Ong on January 1st, 2010 4.36 pm 

Dear Justin/Young Reformers,

I wonder if you can share with us your workplan or activities/events for 2010.

I would also like to ask what are the differences between Young Reformers and Young Democrats. As they are both popular choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12) Justin Ong on January 1st, 2010 4.36 pm </p>
<p>Dear Justin/Young Reformers,</p>
<p>I wonder if you can share with us your workplan or activities/events for 2010.</p>
<p>I would also like to ask what are the differences between Young Reformers and Young Democrats. As they are both popular choices.</p>
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		<title>By: OK Lor</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/in-pursuit-of-political-truth-at-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-124326</link>
		<dc:creator>OK Lor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many unseen political observers amongst students are aligned to the ruling and report activities regularly.

So I guess you have running dogs everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many unseen political observers amongst students are aligned to the ruling and report activities regularly.</p>
<p>So I guess you have running dogs everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Ong</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/in-pursuit-of-political-truth-at-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-124270</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Ong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As requested by the writer of this article, below is the reply from the official reply from NUSPA about the remark at the TOC forum.

______________________________________________________________


Hello Justin
As spoken on the phone, i would like to clarify few points.

1) It is unfortunate that the statement which the member made in her own capacity has made members of the opposition or audience at the event unhappy. Although the member has identified herself to be a member of NUSPA, the statement she made at the forum was of no means NUSPA official stand.

2) As NUSPA is non aligned and neutral, members will attend forums or events in their personal capacity. If the member has ill informed anybody, i would like to take this opportunity to apologize on her behalf.

3) Regarding engagement of parties with NUSPA, the member made the observation based on what she know since joining NUSPA on Aug 2009. From Aug 2009 till present, no other parties other than youth wing of the ruling party has approached NUSPA. I reiterate the stand which NUSPA takes, we are non aligned and non partisan.

4) As NUSPA targets undergraduates, Reformers who are undergraduates are free to participate in NUSPA events on the exception that they must participate in their personal capacity and adhere to rules or regulations set by the director of the event (eg: for events which audience need to sought for ticket, Reformers do not have ticket allocated to them automatically but sought for them as like other undergraduate).

I seek your kind understanding in the issue.

Regards
Eng Kiat
President
NUSPA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As requested by the writer of this article, below is the reply from the official reply from NUSPA about the remark at the TOC forum.</p>
<p>______________________________________________________________</p>
<p>Hello Justin<br />
As spoken on the phone, i would like to clarify few points.</p>
<p>1) It is unfortunate that the statement which the member made in her own capacity has made members of the opposition or audience at the event unhappy. Although the member has identified herself to be a member of NUSPA, the statement she made at the forum was of no means NUSPA official stand.</p>
<p>2) As NUSPA is non aligned and neutral, members will attend forums or events in their personal capacity. If the member has ill informed anybody, i would like to take this opportunity to apologize on her behalf.</p>
<p>3) Regarding engagement of parties with NUSPA, the member made the observation based on what she know since joining NUSPA on Aug 2009. From Aug 2009 till present, no other parties other than youth wing of the ruling party has approached NUSPA. I reiterate the stand which NUSPA takes, we are non aligned and non partisan.</p>
<p>4) As NUSPA targets undergraduates, Reformers who are undergraduates are free to participate in NUSPA events on the exception that they must participate in their personal capacity and adhere to rules or regulations set by the director of the event (eg: for events which audience need to sought for ticket, Reformers do not have ticket allocated to them automatically but sought for them as like other undergraduate).</p>
<p>I seek your kind understanding in the issue.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Eng Kiat<br />
President<br />
NUSPA</p>
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		<title>By: contrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>contrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about engaging the NUS Democratic Socialist Club instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about engaging the NUS Democratic Socialist Club instead?</p>
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		<title>By: YD seeks clarification with NUSPA &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/in-pursuit-of-political-truth-at-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-124204</link>
		<dc:creator>YD seeks clarification with NUSPA &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In pursuit of political truth at universities SDP: SDP visits NUS SDP: NUS officials stop democrats from distributing flyers SDP: Democrats [...]</description>
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		<title>By: seebeng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/in-pursuit-of-political-truth-at-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-124113</link>
		<dc:creator>seebeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8 ((There are so many partisan players in positions of power (not just due to their partisan affliation but partisan behavior) in supposedly non-partisan organs of the state in Singapore it disgusts me!))

That is the inevitable outcome in any dictatorship where those in power don&#039;t depend on the mandate of the people.  In Singapore, the entire state machinery is under the jackboot of a tyrant who constantly claims that he and his ministers are  overwhelmingly elected by the people for their honesty and incorruptible integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 ((There are so many partisan players in positions of power (not just due to their partisan affliation but partisan behavior) in supposedly non-partisan organs of the state in Singapore it disgusts me!))</p>
<p>That is the inevitable outcome in any dictatorship where those in power don&#8217;t depend on the mandate of the people.  In Singapore, the entire state machinery is under the jackboot of a tyrant who constantly claims that he and his ministers are  overwhelmingly elected by the people for their honesty and incorruptible integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Knuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Former NUSPA on December 31st, 2009 9.58 am :

There are so many partisan players in positions of power (not just due to their partisan affliation but partisan behavior) in supposedly non-partisan organs of the state in Singapore it disgusts me!

Look at the MSM, the academic instiutions, the statutory boards, the unions etc.etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Former NUSPA on December 31st, 2009 9.58 am :</p>
<p>There are so many partisan players in positions of power (not just due to their partisan affliation but partisan behavior) in supposedly non-partisan organs of the state in Singapore it disgusts me!</p>
<p>Look at the MSM, the academic instiutions, the statutory boards, the unions etc.etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Former NUSPA</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/in-pursuit-of-political-truth-at-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-124046</link>
		<dc:creator>Former NUSPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know for a fact that there was a former president of NUSPA during the late 1990s who was a member of the YPAP while he was holding the post.

Says a lot about their &quot;Non-partisan and Non-ideology based&quot; statements if you take this fact into context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know for a fact that there was a former president of NUSPA during the late 1990s who was a member of the YPAP while he was holding the post.</p>
<p>Says a lot about their &#8220;Non-partisan and Non-ideology based&#8221; statements if you take this fact into context.</p>
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		<title>By: Knuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin : I thought your response to the NUSPA member was clear, especially given the facts that you have now furnished everybody with .. that the NUSPA aims to meet their members needs via &quot;.. a host of projects, events and activities which are NON-PARTISAN and non-ideology based.&quot; 

Hopefully the lady who asked the question was just a misinformed member of NUSPA .. 

Looking forward to a response from NUSPA to your queries though Justin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin : I thought your response to the NUSPA member was clear, especially given the facts that you have now furnished everybody with .. that the NUSPA aims to meet their members needs via &#8220;.. a host of projects, events and activities which are NON-PARTISAN and non-ideology based.&#8221; </p>
<p>Hopefully the lady who asked the question was just a misinformed member of NUSPA .. </p>
<p>Looking forward to a response from NUSPA to your queries though Justin.</p>
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		<title>By: Tetty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tetty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the event, and I didn&#039;t like the accusatory tone that the NUSPA representative had when she insisted about how the opposition parties failed to reach out to the student bodies AT ALL and that the PAP were doing better. 

When Jarrod and Justin explained that just because their efforts were omitted by mainstream media coverage, it doesn&#039;t mean that their respective parties have failed  to reach out on their part, she further brushed them by further insinuating that their parties have been lazy and further blame them for not putting in enough effort.

The lady then copped out by saying that she is just a normal citizen when Jarrod innocuously consulted back to her on how the opposition can better reach out to people like her, since she is on the receiving end and should know better, which was disappointing.

A simple search on the internet would prove her wrong through and through though, at least on the SDP front, and in fact, their efforts have resulted in a milestone in student activism leading to the first student protest and demonstration in decades, albeit restricted to the boundaries of the Speakers&#039; Corner. Still a laudable feat though. 

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ntu-censors-campus-news-coverage-of-chee-soon-juan-visit/

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/ntu-students-protest-at-speakers-corner/

http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/397-sdp-vists-nus
 
http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/949-democrats-continue-engaging-youth-this-time-at-ntu
 
http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/968-sdp-turns-attention-to-nie-
 
http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1036-nus-officials-stop-democrats-from-distributing-flyers
 
http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1110-democrats-write-to-stuident-body-at-ntu
 
http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1203-ntu-students-come-alive

No apologies for the skewed coverage towards the SDP though, since SDP has the strongest web presence amongst the various parties and these are the results that turned up in my search, although it is understandable that RP is a new party and therefore information on them is not that readily available yet. Hopefully that will change in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the event, and I didn&#8217;t like the accusatory tone that the NUSPA representative had when she insisted about how the opposition parties failed to reach out to the student bodies AT ALL and that the PAP were doing better. </p>
<p>When Jarrod and Justin explained that just because their efforts were omitted by mainstream media coverage, it doesn&#8217;t mean that their respective parties have failed  to reach out on their part, she further brushed them by further insinuating that their parties have been lazy and further blame them for not putting in enough effort.</p>
<p>The lady then copped out by saying that she is just a normal citizen when Jarrod innocuously consulted back to her on how the opposition can better reach out to people like her, since she is on the receiving end and should know better, which was disappointing.</p>
<p>A simple search on the internet would prove her wrong through and through though, at least on the SDP front, and in fact, their efforts have resulted in a milestone in student activism leading to the first student protest and demonstration in decades, albeit restricted to the boundaries of the Speakers&#8217; Corner. Still a laudable feat though. </p>
<p><a href="http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ntu-censors-campus-news-coverage-of-chee-soon-juan-visit/" rel="nofollow">http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ntu-censors-campus-news-coverage-of-chee-soon-juan-visit/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/ntu-students-protest-at-speakers-corner/" rel="nofollow">http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/10/ntu-students-protest-at-speakers-corner/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/397-sdp-vists-nus" rel="nofollow">http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/397-sdp-vists-nus</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/949-democrats-continue-engaging-youth-this-time-at-ntu" rel="nofollow">http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/949-democrats-continue-engaging-youth-this-time-at-ntu</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/968-sdp-turns-attention-to-nie-" rel="nofollow">http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/968-sdp-turns-attention-to-nie-</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1036-nus-officials-stop-democrats-from-distributing-flyers" rel="nofollow">http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1036-nus-officials-stop-democrats-from-distributing-flyers</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1110-democrats-write-to-stuident-body-at-ntu" rel="nofollow">http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1110-democrats-write-to-stuident-body-at-ntu</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1203-ntu-students-come-alive" rel="nofollow">http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1203-ntu-students-come-alive</a></p>
<p>No apologies for the skewed coverage towards the SDP though, since SDP has the strongest web presence amongst the various parties and these are the results that turned up in my search, although it is understandable that RP is a new party and therefore information on them is not that readily available yet. Hopefully that will change in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Universities here have a phobia of opposition parties visiting their campus:

http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/397-sdp-vists-nus

http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1036-nus-officials-stop-democrats-from-distributing-flyers

http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1091-ntu-pulls-plug-on-report-on-sdp-visit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Universities here have a phobia of opposition parties visiting their campus:</p>
<p><a href="http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/397-sdp-vists-nus" rel="nofollow">http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/397-sdp-vists-nus</a></p>
<p><a href="http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1036-nus-officials-stop-democrats-from-distributing-flyers" rel="nofollow">http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1036-nus-officials-stop-democrats-from-distributing-flyers</a></p>
<p><a href="http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1091-ntu-pulls-plug-on-report-on-sdp-visit" rel="nofollow">http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/1091-ntu-pulls-plug-on-report-on-sdp-visit</a></p>
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		<title>By: walau</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/in-pursuit-of-political-truth-at-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-123972</link>
		<dc:creator>walau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember how Dr. Loh Kah Seng mentioned during &quot;Year End Review 2009&quot; that politics is also about the decisions we make, the actions we undertake in everyday life - its about social history.   Kelvin, by expanding your definition and understanding of &quot;politics&quot; perhaps you may find that there are a lot more going-on in papers, seminars and modules that are political but beyond party politics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember how Dr. Loh Kah Seng mentioned during &#8220;Year End Review 2009&#8243; that politics is also about the decisions we make, the actions we undertake in everyday life &#8211; its about social history.   Kelvin, by expanding your definition and understanding of &#8220;politics&#8221; perhaps you may find that there are a lot more going-on in papers, seminars and modules that are political but beyond party politics?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Ong</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/in-pursuit-of-political-truth-at-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-123969</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Ong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have written to the NUSPA seeking clarification on the statement made by their representative that
i) opposition parties in Singapore have not been effectively engaging the student population in tertiary institutions; and 
ii) opposition parties are inactive organisations which only show up at elections when they are called.

Although the representative of the NUSPA reinterated that there was no aversion to opposition parties participating at their events, a statement on their website conflicts this. I hope to clarify what the below-mentioned means.

http://www.nuspa.org/cms/?q=node/107
&quot;The different needs of our members are met through a host of projects, events and activities which are non-partisan and non-ideology based.&quot;

Apart from requesting the Association to invite representatives of the Reform Party to participate in their future activities, I have in return, invited them to our twice-weekly Open House.

I hope the NUSPA would be able to continue their work and further their commitment to &quot;imbue greater political awareness among our youths&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written to the NUSPA seeking clarification on the statement made by their representative that<br />
i) opposition parties in Singapore have not been effectively engaging the student population in tertiary institutions; and<br />
ii) opposition parties are inactive organisations which only show up at elections when they are called.</p>
<p>Although the representative of the NUSPA reinterated that there was no aversion to opposition parties participating at their events, a statement on their website conflicts this. I hope to clarify what the below-mentioned means.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nuspa.org/cms/?q=node/107" rel="nofollow">http://www.nuspa.org/cms/?q=node/107</a><br />
&#8220;The different needs of our members are met through a host of projects, events and activities which are non-partisan and non-ideology based.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apart from requesting the Association to invite representatives of the Reform Party to participate in their future activities, I have in return, invited them to our twice-weekly Open House.</p>
<p>I hope the NUSPA would be able to continue their work and further their commitment to &#8220;imbue greater political awareness among our youths&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew leung</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe NUSPA can network with students from other universities to set up an independent Student Political Association.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe NUSPA can network with students from other universities to set up an independent Student Political Association.</p>
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