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		<title>By: TOC &#8211; a community of Singaporeans &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-2/#comment-124174</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//my views

In case you didn&#039;t remember DBS is everywhere because they took over POSBank without any contest.

Did they do anything great with it?

I am amused by your false confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//my views</p>
<p>In case you didn&#8217;t remember DBS is everywhere because they took over POSBank without any contest.</p>
<p>Did they do anything great with it?</p>
<p>I am amused by your false confidence.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-2/#comment-123570</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My views

If these blue-chip companies did not open themselves to foreign talents and adopt meritocracy, they would not have achieved today’s admirable results! 

Tell me that 10 years down the road after this FT policies in place and the companies are a lot profitable than they are now, I may believe you.

The profitability now is the effort of past labour when Singaporeans calls the shots in the companies before the FT policies.

Start dreaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My views</p>
<p>If these blue-chip companies did not open themselves to foreign talents and adopt meritocracy, they would not have achieved today’s admirable results! </p>
<p>Tell me that 10 years down the road after this FT policies in place and the companies are a lot profitable than they are now, I may believe you.</p>
<p>The profitability now is the effort of past labour when Singaporeans calls the shots in the companies before the FT policies.</p>
<p>Start dreaming.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-123568</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My views

yeah right. SIA, DBS, Capitaland, Sembawang Corp and Keppel Corporation is comparable to Sony?!

What a joke!

All these companies are just big because of the sales figure prop up by exchange rate. Profitability overseas? 

you must be kidding yourself.

DBS&#039;s expansion overseas is a laughing stock. The number of cockups in HK, we could list out easily to you.

Keppel and Sembawang together controls 80% of the world’s production of oil rigs... 

I don&#039;t know where you got this piece of information. 

If it was true, then they should be contributing a lot of monies to Singapore. But we don&#039;t see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My views</p>
<p>yeah right. SIA, DBS, Capitaland, Sembawang Corp and Keppel Corporation is comparable to Sony?!</p>
<p>What a joke!</p>
<p>All these companies are just big because of the sales figure prop up by exchange rate. Profitability overseas? </p>
<p>you must be kidding yourself.</p>
<p>DBS&#8217;s expansion overseas is a laughing stock. The number of cockups in HK, we could list out easily to you.</p>
<p>Keppel and Sembawang together controls 80% of the world’s production of oil rigs&#8230; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you got this piece of information. </p>
<p>If it was true, then they should be contributing a lot of monies to Singapore. But we don&#8217;t see that.</p>
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		<title>By: My Views</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refer to (45) by [cat].

&quot;For a country that has not produced companies as great as sony and the likes, and whose FT policies have not produce any tangible results, the comments you make are very boastful.&quot;

Which corner of the world you are living?  Obviously you seemed to have not heard about good brand names like SIA, DBS, Capitaland, Sembawang Corp and Keppel Corporation.

For your information, Keppel and Sembawang together controls 80% of the world&#039;s production of oil rigs!  SIA is one of the most profitable airlines in the world!  If these blue-chip companies did not open themselves to foreign talents and adopt meritocracy, they would not have achieved today&#039;s admirable results!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refer to (45) by [cat].</p>
<p>&#8220;For a country that has not produced companies as great as sony and the likes, and whose FT policies have not produce any tangible results, the comments you make are very boastful.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which corner of the world you are living?  Obviously you seemed to have not heard about good brand names like SIA, DBS, Capitaland, Sembawang Corp and Keppel Corporation.</p>
<p>For your information, Keppel and Sembawang together controls 80% of the world&#8217;s production of oil rigs!  SIA is one of the most profitable airlines in the world!  If these blue-chip companies did not open themselves to foreign talents and adopt meritocracy, they would not have achieved today&#8217;s admirable results!</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//Sick views

//Yes, this, it has to learn from Singapore. 

For a policy that has not produced positive results, that is typical of the pigs to boast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//Sick views</p>
<p>//Yes, this, it has to learn from Singapore. </p>
<p>For a policy that has not produced positive results, that is typical of the pigs to boast.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My Views 

Japanese workers are one of the most productive and creative in the world, I wonder why the Japanese need to introduce Foreign workers less productive than them?

The Japanese have already outsourced most of the non productive industrial activities overseas, employing FT where they live.

Why do they need these fts back home?

I think the Japanese are smart. They know they by introducing FT into their own countries, they will introduce uncertainty like the types that will drive the ST index to 1000 points.

They are rich so they think : why bother with the risk?

We are importing FTs because our GLCs are not profitable employing FT in their home ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My Views </p>
<p>Japanese workers are one of the most productive and creative in the world, I wonder why the Japanese need to introduce Foreign workers less productive than them?</p>
<p>The Japanese have already outsourced most of the non productive industrial activities overseas, employing FT where they live.</p>
<p>Why do they need these fts back home?</p>
<p>I think the Japanese are smart. They know they by introducing FT into their own countries, they will introduce uncertainty like the types that will drive the ST index to 1000 points.</p>
<p>They are rich so they think : why bother with the risk?</p>
<p>We are importing FTs because our GLCs are not profitable employing FT in their home ground.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-123160</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My Views 

US has the most open economy and their economies are also in a lot of shit now...

open or not... it doesn&#039;t protect your economy from severe recessions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My Views </p>
<p>US has the most open economy and their economies are also in a lot of shit now&#8230;</p>
<p>open or not&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t protect your economy from severe recessions.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My Views 

For a country that has not produced companies as great as sony and the likes, and whose FT policies have not produce any tangible results, the comments you make are very boastful.

It is of the type where you can cut and paste parts that work and hope that every time will work.

Naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My Views </p>
<p>For a country that has not produced companies as great as sony and the likes, and whose FT policies have not produce any tangible results, the comments you make are very boastful.</p>
<p>It is of the type where you can cut and paste parts that work and hope that every time will work.</p>
<p>Naive.</p>
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		<title>By: My Views</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-123152</link>
		<dc:creator>My Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Japanese are united and work harding.  Their mistake is that they failed to open their economy to foreign talents, thus resulting the Japanese economy in such a poor shape.  Yes, this, it has to learn from Singapore.  

The other lesson which the Japanese will soon learn is that they should never have allowed a party without experience in managing a country to be the government.  This, they will soon learn from wise Singaporeans again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Japanese are united and work harding.  Their mistake is that they failed to open their economy to foreign talents, thus resulting the Japanese economy in such a poor shape.  Yes, this, it has to learn from Singapore.  </p>
<p>The other lesson which the Japanese will soon learn is that they should never have allowed a party without experience in managing a country to be the government.  This, they will soon learn from wise Singaporeans again.</p>
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		<title>By: fpc</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-122815</link>
		<dc:creator>fpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My views

I remember LKY praising the Japanese a few years back - talked about organised crime helping the public during an earth quake.

that Jap culture is superior etc.

Now, he is telling Japanese to learn from us.

This is LKY.

He can turn around what he said later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My views</p>
<p>I remember LKY praising the Japanese a few years back &#8211; talked about organised crime helping the public during an earth quake.</p>
<p>that Jap culture is superior etc.</p>
<p>Now, he is telling Japanese to learn from us.</p>
<p>This is LKY.</p>
<p>He can turn around what he said later.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-122606</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My Views

//It is disappointing that he decides to abandon his Potong Pasir residents (the people who put him in parliament for 25 years) ...

Tell that to LKY.

He abandon his wife of 50 years++ in coma while he wine and dine overseas.

Not a surprise, considering him betraying his allies all the time throughout his political career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My Views</p>
<p>//It is disappointing that he decides to abandon his Potong Pasir residents (the people who put him in parliament for 25 years) &#8230;</p>
<p>Tell that to LKY.</p>
<p>He abandon his wife of 50 years++ in coma while he wine and dine overseas.</p>
<p>Not a surprise, considering him betraying his allies all the time throughout his political career.</p>
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		<title>By: fpc</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-122310</link>
		<dc:creator>fpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing with the pigs is that they are still using the old pig as a poster boy.
as if he is Tom Cruise,

Even the real Tom cruise is going down hill.

No ideas party,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing with the pigs is that they are still using the old pig as a poster boy.<br />
as if he is Tom Cruise,</p>
<p>Even the real Tom cruise is going down hill.</p>
<p>No ideas party,</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-122231</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My views

if Hougang and Potong Pasir are outliers, then ask your LHL to start the elections now.

Why bother with the outliers?

Apparently the residents there are happy without the pigs.

Announce your election boundaries now.

If your new candidates are so good, let the public scrutinize them first.

The old pig is dying. The earlier you have the elections, the longer you can still use him as a poster bog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My views</p>
<p>if Hougang and Potong Pasir are outliers, then ask your LHL to start the elections now.</p>
<p>Why bother with the outliers?</p>
<p>Apparently the residents there are happy without the pigs.</p>
<p>Announce your election boundaries now.</p>
<p>If your new candidates are so good, let the public scrutinize them first.</p>
<p>The old pig is dying. The earlier you have the elections, the longer you can still use him as a poster bog.</p>
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		<title>By: FaceTheFact</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-122230</link>
		<dc:creator>FaceTheFact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#36, residents of Hougang and Potong Pasir has made the whole world believing in democratic proud. Those who believe on one party ruling should move to China or North Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#36, residents of Hougang and Potong Pasir has made the whole world believing in democratic proud. Those who believe on one party ruling should move to China or North Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My Views

Ask your LHL to have abolish the GRC and we will see how many constituencies conform to this outlying pattern for the past 20 years.
HA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My Views</p>
<p>Ask your LHL to have abolish the GRC and we will see how many constituencies conform to this outlying pattern for the past 20 years.<br />
HA</p>
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		<title>By: mon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My Views

No... the walkovers in the GRC are the statistical outliers.

The flooding incidents and the escape of a limping terrorists are examples of your statistical outliers and the list is growing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My Views</p>
<p>No&#8230; the walkovers in the GRC are the statistical outliers.</p>
<p>The flooding incidents and the escape of a limping terrorists are examples of your statistical outliers and the list is growing.</p>
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		<title>By: My Views</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately, residents of Hougang and Potong Pasir are just statistical outliers.  Singapore would be in grave trouble if the majority behaved the way those illogical residents did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately, residents of Hougang and Potong Pasir are just statistical outliers.  Singapore would be in grave trouble if the majority behaved the way those illogical residents did.</p>
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		<title>By: mon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//My Views

//I have never been able to appreciate why, despite the PAP’s strong track record, there were people willing to insult their judgement by giving their votes to the Opposition.

Where is the strong track record?

We rank among the lowest in the charter for retirement monies despite having a record saving rates.

You mean tall buildings and the MRT as achievements?

Taiwanese and HKers didn&#039;t need PAP, they have better looking ones than us.

As to why vote for the opposition:

1. The pigs are fat and lazy: what have they produce for the past 2 decades and for every work you think they did, I can give you 2 cock-ups from them.

2. voting them out, would get the remaining pigs to work harder.

It is as simple as that.

For every dollar of pay saved from these people, we get 2 times the value.

As to why Chiam CT is so popular in spite of the low housing price?

The simple answer consists of the following reasons:

1. the residents have fully paid up their flats and have spent the last 2 decades saving up for retirement instead of being a slave to the HDB.

2. the living environment is well maintained there.

3. Chiam has a lot of character and has inspired his residents. Most people (at least around the world) likes their leader to be inspiring. The people who blindly voted for PAP and doesn&#039;t appreciate leadership is the minority in this world.

4. the Pig that was sent to Chiam CT&#039;s precinct is a lousy candidate and the residents know that.

5. Chiam CT didn&#039;t mis-invest the town council monies.

6. Chiam CT has performed well above their expectation as an MP

These are some of the reasons why in spite of the threats launched by Goh Cock Talking and MBT, Chiam CT is still widely supported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//My Views</p>
<p>//I have never been able to appreciate why, despite the PAP’s strong track record, there were people willing to insult their judgement by giving their votes to the Opposition.</p>
<p>Where is the strong track record?</p>
<p>We rank among the lowest in the charter for retirement monies despite having a record saving rates.</p>
<p>You mean tall buildings and the MRT as achievements?</p>
<p>Taiwanese and HKers didn&#8217;t need PAP, they have better looking ones than us.</p>
<p>As to why vote for the opposition:</p>
<p>1. The pigs are fat and lazy: what have they produce for the past 2 decades and for every work you think they did, I can give you 2 cock-ups from them.</p>
<p>2. voting them out, would get the remaining pigs to work harder.</p>
<p>It is as simple as that.</p>
<p>For every dollar of pay saved from these people, we get 2 times the value.</p>
<p>As to why Chiam CT is so popular in spite of the low housing price?</p>
<p>The simple answer consists of the following reasons:</p>
<p>1. the residents have fully paid up their flats and have spent the last 2 decades saving up for retirement instead of being a slave to the HDB.</p>
<p>2. the living environment is well maintained there.</p>
<p>3. Chiam has a lot of character and has inspired his residents. Most people (at least around the world) likes their leader to be inspiring. The people who blindly voted for PAP and doesn&#8217;t appreciate leadership is the minority in this world.</p>
<p>4. the Pig that was sent to Chiam CT&#8217;s precinct is a lousy candidate and the residents know that.</p>
<p>5. Chiam CT didn&#8217;t mis-invest the town council monies.</p>
<p>6. Chiam CT has performed well above their expectation as an MP</p>
<p>These are some of the reasons why in spite of the threats launched by Goh Cock Talking and MBT, Chiam CT is still widely supported.</p>
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		<title>By: FaceTheFact</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/let-potong-pasir-be-a-beacon-and-power-base-chiam/comment-page-1/#comment-122009</link>
		<dc:creator>FaceTheFact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33, you should learn how to respect others decision. 

In fact, you should feel proud of Opposition does exist in our Parliament. If not, other countries might thought Singapore is a communist country... one party ruling only, which will scare away all the foreign investment here, and all your investment and stock will be down by 50% which you are most worry. To help our country, PAP  image in the global world and not forgetting your investment/stock, you should vote for opposition like the citizen of Potong Pasir. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33, you should learn how to respect others decision. </p>
<p>In fact, you should feel proud of Opposition does exist in our Parliament. If not, other countries might thought Singapore is a communist country&#8230; one party ruling only, which will scare away all the foreign investment here, and all your investment and stock will be down by 50% which you are most worry. To help our country, PAP  image in the global world and not forgetting your investment/stock, you should vote for opposition like the citizen of Potong Pasir. :)</p>
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