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PM Lee proposes “24-hour cooling-off” period before Polling Day

PM Lee proposes that websites should also stop postings on elections during this period. Exception for “news reports”, he says.

(See WP’s Low Thia Khiang’s reaction below.)

Channelnewsia’s report on PM Lee proposal on a “cooling-off” period for the next elections.

From Channelnewsasia:

PORT OF SPAIN: The Singapore government is proposing an extra day of non-campaigning as a cooling-off period just before Polling Day, ahead of the General Election due in 2012.

The extra day of non-campaigning will also apply to a presidential election.

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong made the announcement to the Singapore media after wrapping up his attendance at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) in Trinidad and Tobago.

Under current election rules, political parties are not allowed to campaign on Polling Day itself.

Except for party political broadcasts and news reports, there are to be no more mass rallies, door-to-door visits and even display of party symbols.

Mr Lee said the cabinet had been considering an additional cooling-off day over the past several elections.

He said this would give voters time to reflect rationally on issues, after the emotional high of election campaigning.

Mr Lee said: “I think 24 hours after the last excitement of the election campaign period, the rallies, the door-to-door campaigning, the adrenaline flowing, the clash in the mass media as well as in person, perambulating vans blaring away loud speakers, it’s good to have 24 hours to just calm down, think about it – tomorrow we vote.”

He added that having a cooling-off period will also lessen the risk of public disorder.

“Previously, once in a while, we have had pushing and shoving at election rallies as the crowd gets worked up and doesn’t disperse, but the main thing is to have time for people to think over the issues and to vote in a calm state of mind,” he said.

Mr Lee was asked how this additional 24-hour cooling-off period would apply to the online world of networking and video-sharing sites.

“On the Internet, it’s grey and also the policing is not so straight-forward but even then, in principle we should say today is a quiet day. I cannot control several million videos on youtube but your website, what you’re putting up in your own name, I think that should end the day before the cooling-off day,” he said.

Countries that have imposed a similar period of campaign silence include Australia and Indonesia.

Australia has a three-day black-out of election advertising and Indonesia has a three-day cooling-off before Legislative Elections and a two-day cooling-off before the Presidential election.

In Singapore, this means that the minimum period between Nomination and Polling Day will be extended from 9 to 10 days to keep the same number of minimum campaigning days.

This comes on the back of new election rules proposed earlier this year to bring more diverse views to Parliament.

These include having more single-seat wards and smaller Group Representation Constituencies (GRCs), as well as allowing for more non-elected seats.

Mr Lee had said then that the proposed changes are aimed at a more balanced system and to bring diverse views in Parliament to better reflect the aspirations of Singaporeans.

On whether the changes mean the General Election is near?

Mr Lee remained tight-lipped. “Maybe … no I don’t have a date for you – it could be, it could not be,” he said.

The Prime Minister did not give a date but he did say it is getting closer. One thing’s for sure, the General Election is unlikely to be in the first quarter of next year. That’s because the new election rule will have to be read in Parliament before the Budget in February or March next year, and the Constitution changed after the Budget. – CNA/de

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Workers’ Party secretary-general, Low Thia Khiang’s reaction. (Today).

Workers’ Party secretary-general Low Thia Khiang raised similar concerns. The ruling party could “disguise” its campaign as news items in the mass media, but the Opposition would be unable to do so, he told MediaCorp.

For instance, he noted, if the Opposition were to campaign on, say, healthcare, the relevant government department could counter on policy issues on the cooling-off day.

Such stories can be run in the mass media without highlighting any PAP candidate, he said. “This will effectively give the ruling party an extra day of campaigning to the disadvantage of the Opposition.”

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Read Cherian George’s write up here: Pre-election “cooling-off” period should not freeze citizen journalism.

“But the biggest loser would be the Government itself. It would be handing a fresh round of ammunition to those who say that the PAP can only win by denying Singaporeans a plurality of media. Better to live with the loophole, which is practically impossible to close, than to engage in overkill.”

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Straits Times’ report here: 24 hours to cool off before Polling Day.

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“You can get anything you want in Singapore. You can travel, you can bring it in. You can – you can organize what you want. You can say anything you want, and all sorts of things are said and debated in Singapore.”
- PM Lee, interview with Charlie Rose, Aug 2005

“We’ve got to support Singaporeans being spontaneous, being unconventional.We should not put obstacles in their way.”
– PM Lee, National Day Rally, 2004. (link)

‘I can’t control several million videos on YouTube. But your website, what you are putting out in your own name, I think that should end on the day before cooling-off day.”
– PM Lee, Straits Times, 2009.
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wow
Dec 1, 2009 13:02

if they are so scared lose – might as well have cooling off period of 1 month instead of one day.

bollocks.

Ren
Dec 1, 2009 13:19

What an idiot the PM is. vote him out!

very hsien
Dec 1, 2009 13:22

All these small, insignificant changes to the election rules are just gimmicks and lip service intended to show the whole world that “w are always reforming our political system. don’t tell me we are not democratic OK!”

If they are sincere, do away with the GRC and go back to single constituency system for all parliament seats! Stop giving Singaporeans all these craps lah!

Human Being
Dec 1, 2009 13:23

male PAP MPs and their male supporters should wear white skirts, white bras and white panties… the female ones can don chicken feather skirts, hopefully in white too… PM called on the opposition politicians not to be like monkeys (running away after election)… well i, who dont support the opposition or PAP, call on PAP not to be like chickens (running to hide even before the elections start)… fight the election with courage and integrity…

Alan
Dec 1, 2009 13:42

dont know singaporean is so emotional need 24 hrs to calm down. If current policies are good, then what is the thing that can get emotional. why so kaisu.

Triple Threat
Dec 1, 2009 13:47

who don’t know that “TV political broadcast” and “News reports on election” are under PAP’s control? Come on, this sounds like a last-minute effort to influence our decisions. But we bet that they will fail.

I being to like this slogan: “Vote for Change, Vote PAP out”

DK
Dec 1, 2009 14:00

Why is it that the Traditional Media’s news reports is allow to continue during the 24 hour cooling period but New Media’s news reports aren’t allowed?

If you want a cooling period, make sure all media (traditional and new) shut their mouth.

Baccarat
Dec 1, 2009 14:05

this is absurd, Australia has 2 months campaigning so a 24 to 36 hours cool off may be necessary.

Also Australia is large, so it take stime to sink the election message down to neighbourhood

Singapore has ony 8 days campaigning, less one day for the nomination.

And in PM Lee’s announcement, on last day Day d-1, only press and TV are allowed, we all know that these are his puppets, in past 4 elections, Mainstream press and media have been shamefully carried PAP mesaage in 95% of their election coverage, so, what is LHL’s real intention ..

PAP continue to try to win by not losing and not by winning minds and hearts, they may draw billion $ a year for the 82 PAP members, but they have NO GUTS !

Did we see any news of riots or commotion in past 20 years of partial elections, NONE !

This is to jab without a flu outbreak in sight.

iain'tnobloomintourist
Dec 1, 2009 14:06

[i]PM Lee proposes “24-hour cooling-off” period before Polling Day
Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 12:56 pm | 156 views

PM Lee proposes that websites should also stop postings on elections during this period.[/i]

what the fart are you FARTin? my prince your highanded highas s?
if you are good and havin somethin to show for? the peasants WILL WEAR WHITE AND SING TO YOUR EAR!!!
unfortunateLEE.. you did NOTHIN! and here you seek a coolin off PERIOD?
you sound liked a jackas s havin a menustration PERIOD!
~PERIOD~

anakin
Dec 1, 2009 14:07

Agree…Cooling off period should apply to all not just non-MSM media. anyway, try as they will, it pretty clear, that the tide is moving away from the papies. They are only delaying the inevitable.

STPBored
Dec 1, 2009 14:07

Some is afraid…very very afraid of the new media…

The power of the internet….The power to the people.

Baccarat
Dec 1, 2009 14:08

He is my alumni in NJ, shame shame !

Online Shmonline
Dec 1, 2009 14:16

but…but…I thought we were pragmatic? Why should we require a cooling off period?? I think someone’s lost the plot!

If I hear one more stupid election ploy like this, I’m going to dye my hair white, put on a clown suit and shout to the world, “ELECT ME!!!”

Realist
Dec 1, 2009 14:21

I’m afraid of the future. We’ve lived comfortably for the last 40 years because we had a hard working patriotic population and a honest, decent government, in that order.

Today, the population is being replaced by cheap foreign labour and a migrant population with nothing but self-interest at heart and a equally self centered government, far more interested in maintaining power at all cost to retain their diamond ricebowls and that of their future generation. Only when they know that they are employed by the people to serve the people, will they perform. Otherwise they will continue creating new positions, new laws, new definitions and new innovative geryymandering schemes to stay in power without accountability and transparency. The government is not a private company where you can go on creating new position to accommodate the retiring CEO and loyal servants. People have to know its our money that is paying their extorbitant salaries, unless they are willing to serve the country without pay, like our first econonic adviser did and he was not even a Singaporean. Now that is the kind of people we need as new Singaporeans.

Very heaty
Dec 1, 2009 14:21

Hmm, maybe when I cool down and be rational; I will vote for Change!

wow
Dec 1, 2009 14:22

yep –

one day cooling off – just make sure ST and Tony Tan do not say anything in the ST!

Kezu
Dec 1, 2009 14:31

very hilarious!

They assume Singaporeans needed to be told how to think YET again.

Do we really needed to be told How to Think about What to Think about election??

again Hilarious!

LN
Dec 1, 2009 14:34

Haha.. Tricky Dick is at work here.

Everybody will have to shut their mouth on that day… or face fines / imprisonment, except for The Straits Times…

..which will have pages of articles singing heavenly praises about their puppet master, the MIW.

You have to admit it, the MIWs are forward planners… and will do anything to win an election / keep their jobs.

Afterall, they have to protect their Million $$$$ salaries, you know.

http://www.yeocheowtong.com/Salaries.html

hipswaying
Dec 1, 2009 14:35

Our beloved “PM” in Trinidad and Tobago, hip swaying away.
Look at the awkwardness and uncomfy body gesture. LOL
Imagine him leading us, we are in heaven right now. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3kEH809Sw

Alan
Dec 1, 2009 14:46

In history, No political party can last forever,
think of how singapore can still suceed in the next 50 years, dont be afraid of change.
there is no point delaying whether 1 day or 1 decade

smallyfly
Dec 1, 2009 14:48

This is just another example of singaporeans are really lucky to have such a despicable ruling party for so-long and, a total “contemptible-wrench” as their “leading-man”!! Die-die wants to/must win at all cost even to the extent of removing all dignity and integrity!!!! Oh, so “proud?” to be a citizen of this shameful tiny island!

Oxford Dude
Dec 1, 2009 14:55

Does that mean websites such as TOC have to go offline during the Cooling Off Period?

hoyyo6
Dec 1, 2009 15:02

All websites that have keywords like Lee, Hsien, Yew, Loong, Kuan ,ching, Ho will automatically be filter away, not just TOC.

Merobok
Dec 1, 2009 15:03

I bet during the cooling off period, the PAP bols licker will still be in high activity under the instructions of their master.
If the group of minister including wooden can get away with the Punggol incident and exonerated by the then AG, they will get away again this time!
By the way, the last day will see the Shitty Times trying their best to sway the voters. This time round, I bet many have already made up their minds months ahead. The Internet bloggers have to be at their best throughout the campaign including the last day!

Alex the peasant boy
Dec 1, 2009 15:12

Hahahaha, there he goes, again! I am just wondering what’s this ‘cooling-off’ period is gonna do to boost PAP votes. If Singaporeans are sensible & I think we all are, then I dont think this scheme will really work. Most of us have already what to do during polling day & I dont think a 24 hour cooling off period is gonna make much difference. It’s probably aimed at the new citizens that are not sure which box to tick & the Straits Times could blast out all the pro-PAP messages or threats. We have seen this rubbish over the past years & nothing surprises me anymore. Remember SM Goh stationed himself at the Polling Station a few years back? Well, if that’s not breaking the rules, then I dont know what it!

To all my beloved Singaporeans, pls vote wisely; whether it’s for PAP or Opposition cos this will effect all of us in the next 4-5 years. Dont be fooled by the usual Vote Us, Or Else threats or Lift Upgrading programmes. Whether you are staying in Woodlands or Hougang, you are still Singaporeans that deserved a piece of the pie; unless they announced that those in the Opposition Wards need not pay GST or taxes!

Let's Do It
Dec 1, 2009 15:24

So what this cooling off is essentially trying to achieve is to break the momentum of the people’s fervour for change.
And then during this one day, they will be aided by their mainstream propaganda machine to try to stop the tide of change.
I can bet you that the media air time will be focus on the incumbent and they will justify by saying that it’s allocated according to the number of candidates.

FDFB
Dec 1, 2009 15:27

i think no grcs is the best.

hope if one day no matter what party be government, they can do away the grcs.

LN
Dec 1, 2009 15:31

## 19) hipswaying on December 1st, 2009 2.35 pm

“Our beloved “PM” in Trinidad and Tobago, hip swaying away. Look at the awkwardness and uncomfy body gesture. LOL Imagine him leading us, we are in heaven right now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3kEH809Sw

I just watched the video.

The hip swaying away looks more to me like he has poops in his pants.

That’s the likely explaination for his awkwardness and uncomfy body gesture..

Let's Do It
Dec 1, 2009 15:32

Somehow it never fails to amazes me that each election they can come out with something just to add that extra advantage to themselves.
Shameless cowardice

CJ
Dec 1, 2009 15:56

it’s rigged as hell… cool off my behind..!
Got guts, remove GRC & let EVERYONE VOTE!

Utopia
Dec 1, 2009 16:11

We have Freak Election, Freak minister, we also have Freak Sissy.

Haha, really confirm the suspicion that he is a Freak Sissy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3kEH809Sw

Look at his very awkward and embarrassing look. But we have to understand why he feel uncomfortable. He is, after all, walking in front of corrupted gahmen from other country because he says that he and his MIW need to receive millions dollars salary to avoid corruption, and those foreign gahmen aren’t paid millions, and only get fraction of those clown’s pays. Moreover, Emperor Lee, is not there to mollycoddle Sissy Lee.

Utopia
Dec 1, 2009 16:18

Not only Sissy Lee’s behaviour is awkward and unbecoming as the world’s most expensive gahman (and clown), his highfalutin proposal of “24-hour cooling-off” period before Polling Day” is even more awkward and moronic. He is beyond hope and redemption.

Colonel Faris Al Ghazi
Dec 1, 2009 16:34

What purpose this “cooling period” serves? If PAP has what it takes, there’s no need for any below the belt tactics. Their “generosity” & “promises” will deliver the votes to their camp. After all, its the entire PAP machinery against, what? 2 opposition party only mah.

blackfeline
Dec 1, 2009 16:39

the BIGGEST JOKE ON EARTH…and he could uttered this rubbish with a straight face! Im really up to my neck…ask him to shaft it up his a#$H%^e!

Baccarat
Dec 1, 2009 16:45

Maybe the extra 24 hours is to issue ISA on opposition candidates ?

wat?
Dec 1, 2009 16:50

so during the cooling off period. I think what we will see in the newspaper is to recap how good PAP policy is, how ungrateful singaporeans are, and the usual threats. plus probably they will recap and show all the bad parts of the OPP.

wat else you think?

jiangbao
Dec 1, 2009 16:55

cooling period i don mind, but when i read about the newspaper being allowed to continue to write whatever they want. I laughed.

But since they have the numbers in parliament, it go thru for sure.

mike
Dec 1, 2009 16:56

it doet matter to me anymore. as far as i am concerned, read my lip – i am voting for change for sure this time.

fae
Dec 1, 2009 16:58

let’s just do everything they tell us not to do. simple. we get to slap them in the face and tell electorates the truth.

what are they going to do? arrest us? haha, that will only blow up in their faces even more!

Yamamoto
Dec 1, 2009 17:15

Oh gosh…not another one of their “tactics” again right? but haven’t they learn yet? they can’t control the new media…so trying to do stuffs like that…mmm….just really shows what an “ideal” world he is living in

and mr Low is most probably on the dot…remember that cycling event? see what happen….

David
Dec 1, 2009 17:23

Low Thia Kiang’s concern is very valid. This is another LHL scared-to-loss tactic. Utiliizing his owned media to the extreme to garner extra votes duirng the cooling 24-hours. It is no different as the court to allow PAP inside polling station and disallow alternative parties outside polling stations. Msm is going to work that way in the cooling period. Singaporeans are not stupid, 24 hours cooling period will end up 5-years of heat & miseries for Singaporeans to bear. How many Singaporeans have literally died of hunger and poverty while many FTs are imported to aggravate it. We are no longer a child under the manipulative PAP regime. We will vote for change. No amount of carrots or sweet-talk or goodies-two-shoes PAP MP will change our mind to vote otherwise. PAP has dissappointed true-borned Singaporeans greately and must not be allowed to repeat. We also know GST will go up again if we continue to give them the mandate. Singaporeans must learn to save ourselves from PAP genocide policies,.

nail
Dec 1, 2009 17:24

Cool off who? To cool PAP or to cool opposition? Trying to psycho some naive singaporeans on the last day? Are you so afraid of losing? If you have done well, you wouldn’t come out with this idoitic move… Fed up!

Crafty ploy
Dec 1, 2009 17:25

Past elections have shown that opposition rallies had been very well attended compared to those of the ruling party. In this way, the opposition parties had been able to build up the momentum right up to polling day. The 24-hr cooling off period will break that momentum. Meanwhile the newspapers and TV stations can continue publishing articles and programs highlighting the ruling party’s past achievements. All perfectly above board. What a crafty ploy!

Yang
Dec 1, 2009 17:28

oOur PM looks very tired. I think he cannot led this country anymore. See his white hair. Thats the reason why MM recenlty coming out more often to stand in for PM. Give PM a good break in this coming election and have oposition take over him.

YODI
Dec 1, 2009 17:34

The time has come. The time is here now. This is it. It’s now or never. This election will be one that will be talked of for many years to come when the people of singapore finally have come of age and have learn to stand on their own two feet and tell this government-ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

To suggest and off day to cool off from campaigning makes no cow sense as the saying goes. After all these years you realise this . Come come we are not children please do not treat us as such. Just like SMM realise after sommany years when so many families had to migrate for their childrens education because of the “MANDARIAN DEBACLE”. An apology cannot make up for all the damage it already caused. it’s like saying sorry, I killed your husband, I made a mistake and it suffices.

So we have all waitedand edured for so long , finally the hour is at hand the sooner the better when we can finally right all the wrongs that the PAP government has odne to all singaporeans who have slogged all these years to make the country our country. We did not need to be payed “millions” we had the pride and passion to built our country for our selves and for our children and our childrens children.

Let us join hands together to show thw world who we are and what we are. We do not begrude so who want to be true citizens. We welcome you but in order to be one of us and to be a true singaporean you must accept everything and that includes doing such things like “National Service” to name one. You cannot accept a piece of pie and then demand the whole pie without doing what all singaporeans have to do as singaporeans. Talent you may have but talent alone did not build this country of us. We built it , our forefathers built it and some of them may not have been as talented as you but you cannot take credit away credit from them.

So stand up all ye “TRUE SINGAPOREANS” ,vote for CHANGE. And as one of our welll paid millionaire ministers as aptly said, VOTE FOR CHEAPER BETTER FASTER ministers and another party!

Orchid
Dec 1, 2009 17:35

It seems like a ‘red’ flag.

If (just a hypothetical situation):
Party A puts a mole in Party B. Party B wins a seat in the election, but Party A reveals that the mole breaks the rule during the cooling period.

What will the consequences be? Will Party B still get to retain the seat?

Online Shmonline
Dec 1, 2009 17:37

Perhaps the MIW believe that 24 hrs is enough to make us believe (through the MSM) that they’re not trying to bend us over and perform their million dollar duties?

Or perhaps, watching ‘24′ has inspired our otherwise uninspiring leadership cadre?

Tetty
Dec 1, 2009 18:10

I agree with the cooling off period, in fact I will do a self-imposed cool off from the States times and Radio and Television, because after all these years of them burning my poor brains and eyes and ears with their shameless proPAPganda, I definitely need to cool off and SAVOUR EVERY PASSING SECOND AS I VOTE FOR CHANGE the next day!

Moe Gan Thai
Dec 1, 2009 18:17

Just vote the pap out lah, so many nonsense, NCMP, NMP, GRC, cooling off period, no need 24 hr. I am already decided to vote oppositions.

ape
Dec 1, 2009 18:21

“Countries that have imposed a similar period of campaign silence include Australia and Indonesia.”

a little red dot wanting to ape the likes of giants when it is convenient. a single position in those countries would probably be contested by many candidates.

tolong
Dec 1, 2009 18:27

in principle if you want to be quite, please go ahead by all means even if it means for 1 week or 1 month.

But please do not impose it on others if they still have the energy to be noisy and want to build up the momentum.

btan
Dec 1, 2009 18:34

Netizens should be brave enough to give a collective finger to this stupid cooling off rule by posting EVEN MORE things in the coming election.

PAP knows they are going to lose big in the coming elections. That is why they are pulling their bags of tricks like rubber stamping in new citizens that will support them and introducing such rules to try to curb the rising anti-PAP feelings in cyberspace.

They are afraid.

And those who are sick and tired of their ways should start rolling the snowball of their defeat from today. Start telling your friends and family not to vote for PAP in the coming election.

Enigmatic
Dec 1, 2009 18:34

Abolish GRCs and allow all to enter through the front door with true confidence and pride through single seat ward on equal footings and on own competency .

Can the normally partial MSM blahs blahs blahs and only partially sings praises or unfairly disseminates vigorous inputs of only one party on that very one day and uunfairly blocks all inputs from those oppositions – what assurance can you give ?

not much difference
Dec 1, 2009 18:40

“main thing is to have time for people to think over the issues and to vote in a calm state of mind.”

we already have plenty of time to think for the past forty years, one day more won’t make much difference lah.

in a country where the law of one-man assembly applies, the voting process will most likely be in a calm manner.

you are on candid camera, what will they think of next !!!!!

Karma went on Exile
Dec 1, 2009 18:44

“Except for party political broadcasts and news reports,…”

What does the above mean?

What are the types of media for political broadcasts and news reports?
Does this mean MSM can be used to broadcast political contents during this period of so-called cooling off? So, does this mean the MSM has control what kind of content they will broadcast during this period ?

omg!

Master Hum
Dec 1, 2009 18:45

To me, the KEY words in this whole article are “Except for party political broadcasts and news reports…”

Very Sure
Dec 1, 2009 18:46

If AMK GRC is in hands of opposition, I think they would void the election and apply martial law. Dont you think so?

Puppies
Dec 1, 2009 18:49

I do not need this cooling off period. Its totally not necessary for me.
Even if election announced,
even if campaigning starts,
even if the cooling off period begins,
MY Mind WAS made up long long ago.
now, give me that election.
I cannot wait.

chill the wine
Dec 1, 2009 18:50

Perhaps the spineless leader should also consider a 24 hour cooling-off period after the elections, just in case he lose his pants and more than 1/3 the seats.

And of course should this happen, I will know how to cool off…….
sharing chilled vintage wine with like-minded Sporeans.

Quazon Hukerbee
Dec 1, 2009 18:53

Wow, i am amazed that the PAP gov can and have made changes just like that.
By 2012 i wonder what else would have changed?

Whatever the case, the population has already got so many new citizens.
And still counting.

Is this Game Over for the Opposition?

I think opposition and supporters need to do something Extra and special this time round. This time, to me , this will be their last chance.

What other rules of the game may be changed in time to come?

Thanks to the mandate, they can make all the changes they deem necessary.
I mean, who is gonna object? kekeke.

majulah for you lah.

Chitan Spuaknel
Dec 1, 2009 18:56

Could these changes have been so easily approved or implemented IF the people had voted in more opposition?

Whatever it is , its too late.

whjho
Dec 1, 2009 18:57

It should mean a total blackout on all news: including TV, Radio and newspapers. Else it is all fake and bias.

How wonderful to have such quietness and peace.

Once again, from the various comments, it shows the credit worthiness and trust this guy has over Singaporeans.

Why are we so skeptical nowadays?

DJkillpappies
Dec 1, 2009 19:00

walaoeh! This is in such blatant support of the PAP la.

With the cooling off period, people will forget the hate and the emotions.

Without the hate and the emotions, the people will vote for the most “Pragmatic And Practical” policies again.

How can the Opposition win if people vote rationally?

Vote for Change! Vote the PAP out!

where are the lizards
Dec 1, 2009 19:06

the sheep have unwittingly revealed the true color of their inner wolves. now now now where are their supportive lizards.

prettyplace
Dec 1, 2009 19:14

Why not just ban all opposition parties…and have only PAP on the voting cards…..
would make things easier for a complete PAP win…..LHL should consider

Political SalesMaN
Dec 1, 2009 19:24

The PAP cooling Period is what they are like Christmas “Silent Night”. On the very night they came and arrest their incumbent. Silent theeeeeem!

BlindMan
Dec 1, 2009 19:33

Desperate times, calls for desperate measures….It’ funny how the announcement was made in Spain if i am not mistaken, but when Mat Selamat went missing he went missing for a while too……

Frankly would you trust someone with your life, if they made you poorer , limited the jobs around you by introducing cheap labour, telling you to work harder for cheaper, moved the CPF goal post , and they pay themselves skyhigh salaries, with the notion that corruption might set in if they are not paid these obscene amounts!

Would you trust someone if they said the following …

On whether the changes mean the General Election is near?

Mr Lee remained tight-lipped. “Maybe … no I don’t have a date for you – it could be, it could not be,” he said.

The Prime Minister did not give a date but he did say it is getting closer. One thing’s for sure, the General Election is unlikely to be in the first quarter of next year. That’s because the new election rule will have to be read in Parliament before the Budget in February or March next year, and the Constitution changed after the Budget

The election is about Singaporeans and what SIngaporeans want… not the otherway round…..We need change, cause the past years have been awful for Singaporeans.

For the people that went through NS and reservist, these people commited themselves to a Singaporean cause,but they lose out on jobs and promotions because the FTs that come with a lower price tag don’t need too…..

From his actions the PAP have lost its common ground with the Singaporeans.

I hope for a better Singapore that I can call home…..where the old ,sick and jobless are taken care off, Man serving NS don’t feel like its free labour……and last but not least a Govt that serves the people with a lower salary scale.

Upturner
Dec 1, 2009 19:38

cooling off period = day off for LEEporters of State Times..fat hope?

Upturner
Dec 1, 2009 19:41

i rather they stick to giving sweetners approaching election day…..

FG
Dec 1, 2009 20:00

Dont have to talk so much my dear 3Xmilion dollar PM and SM and MM! I think all sinkies should hand you a near win of say only 42 seats? Singapoeans must remember that more tough time is ahead of you if you continue to vote PAP. More taxes, GST, fees, another 1.5 million FT(6million max) and increasing health care costs by mean testing. All these will come right after election. It doesn’t need anymore introductions of all the plans they have in mind to oiled these revenue generating means from the poor people after a fresh election. Whatever they said are nothing new and not meaningful to us. Are we fools to believe what they said? Lets not make another stupid honest mistake to vote them in again. Especially those spineless MPs thru backdoor GRC, keep these pests out.

curious citizen
Dec 1, 2009 20:17

I bring you the expert toolang http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/sdp-call-for-government-to-release-electoral-map/

I beseech him to give us insight on his peerless strategy, so that the opposition parties are able to utilize it to seek victory.

In Toolang’s perspective, it might be there will be a MSM blitz about the inept abilities of the opposition, or it might be an impressive scoop on breaking negative news about the opposition. There would be no effective response from them (opposition). In trying out to flush out possible scenarios, then there are alternatives to take so as to resolve the issues.

theforgottongeneration
Dec 1, 2009 20:32

US$2.05m salary… and all we get is this kind of “fine tuning”. There are probably thousands of things that a our PM should be working on, and yet this is what we got ….. announced some more in Spain to a foreign audience, like Singaporeans are second class citizens!

Obviously this guy is in a world of his own; I still remember his 2-hour NDR on racial harmony, how we were from a small fishing village, etc…– completely off course from the urgent matters to Singaporeans. This is our P.M. = Prime Moron, capable only of paying himself & Co. millions $$s. We’re really, really screwed!

Ok, so my cat has one more day to wait to get my official vote … I’m cool.

Loyola
Dec 1, 2009 20:38

Port of Spain is not Spain

*facepalms*

theforgottongeneration
Dec 1, 2009 20:45

@73) Loyola on December 1st, 2009 8.38 pm

Thks, it’s in Trinidad & Tobago… still ain’t in S’pore.

The Power IS In Your Hands
Dec 1, 2009 20:45

I don’t understand why people are talking about PAP and Opposition. The General Elections are for the people. They should concern more of the people than the PAP and the Opposition.

If the people want Opposition to be in power, then the people must make it a point to go all out to vote for the Opposition.

And if the people feel that the PAP should continue to rule as it is, then vote for the PAP.

Whatever the present PAP govt under Lee HL is trying to do to get all the advantages for the PAP, it cannot and should not affect the voters’ choice. You elect the party you want to be the government to rule over you. The vote is in your hand. You have a choice. You have the power!

If voters continue to want the PAP as it is, then you deserve the govt you voted in. So, stop complaining about the disadvantages and obstacles.

Simply just wake up your bloody ideas!

Make sure you vote correctly and wisely this time.

Poverty@SG
Dec 1, 2009 20:53

Wow…Democracy SG style or rather PAP style…(shaking my head)

I don’t need a cooling off period. I would rather eat shit than vote for him.

Why vote for him and the PAP ministers? To let them get more millions?

Tan Cheng Hua
Dec 1, 2009 21:11

Vote them out.

Just vote them out.

Economist
Dec 1, 2009 21:19

I would rather vote for a dog in the next GE.

At least a dog knows to protect the house from foreigners.

Why should I vote for some people who can’t even do what a dog does?

No Scholar
Dec 1, 2009 21:20

#76 ~ Why vote for him and the PAP ministers? To let them get more millions?

Its not just their iron rice bowl guaranteed but their children, grandchildren, spouse, spouse family…. And to let them take away all your rights and your dignity.

Go read or watch the true story behind “The hunt for Red October”. The suffering ordinary people knew something has gone very wrong with their Communist ideal because of their leaders’ greed but there was nothing that the people could do. It made one man take a desperate act only to lead to his execution because the arm forces and law are all on the govt’s side.

Debora Soongilaitus
Dec 1, 2009 21:23

To support the call for Cooling Off,
I vow to Totally absolutely cool off by
Turning Off the TV, Radio, and not buying the Newspaper even if free.
I vow to totally support this call.
I actually have already made up my mind regardless if there is or no such a day.

I also donche mind if the cooling off period come with 1 public holiday for citizens only since the economy needs talents like PRs, FTs to keep on running.

Scarly if the cooling off period last minute changed to 1 week also i welcome.
But should be holiday ideally.

MBT for SMC!
LSS for SMC!
LBH for SMC!

I luv them all.

XiiAoGeNgEnX
Dec 1, 2009 21:25

Hmm this system is indeed open to potential abuse if the MSM acts unfairly. Perhaps the blanket can include newspaper and tv reports on the election campaigning.

In my opinion, it would be too early to assume that our MSM will automatically act in a blatantly biased fashion. Afterall, Mr Low’s concerns WERE broadcast on mainstream media. (see report above)

The Final Shot - lets make it the best one in our lifetime
Dec 1, 2009 21:29

The Time is drawing near.
The Rules of the Game is being Changed and Changed.
How much left?

For me, this is the very very LAST chance left.

I will vote even if it is the last thing i do in my life.

Lets make it a memorable one.

I have never been so ready and determined in my life.

2011
Dec 1, 2009 21:36

They are going to arrest people who don’t cool off?? Cannot lah… the people in the PAP below the PM also no brain. All “support” this without thinking. It’s time for a change. I want leaders not followers in my community.

passer-by
Dec 1, 2009 21:43

The government cant even give answers to many of the national issues for over the pass few years in straight forward and in lay man terms, what can an additional 24 hours achieve more for them?

More often then not, chances to clear the air relating to questionable issues would have turned out to be frustratingly more murky, lacked clarity – Unsuspecting citizen misled.

It hurts me dearly, as I can see that there are many nationalistic citizen wanting to make good for the country are always being shone with a negative light. Their views should be fairly treated, aired , and then letting the citizen decided if those are good or bad.

commentator
Dec 1, 2009 21:57

TOC is now 3 years old – how much real change has it brought about in our political landscape during this time? By what benchmark do we measure TOC’s success?

Well, if we are allowed only one indicator to base on, perhaps it is this: If PAP could be voted out in the next election, I think TOC have not existed in vain.

Greaseistheword
Dec 1, 2009 22:02

Folks, don’t you guys realise that this is such an ingenious idea to disqualify opposition candidates who fault the cooling off period rule.

In other words, even if are you voted in, you can still be disqualified if you are not careful by faulting this rule.

XiiAoGeNgEnX
Dec 1, 2009 22:03

Oh and if anyone would like to read, I’ve posted my own article on this issue. Feel free to comment and critique! :)

tiredsingaporean
Dec 1, 2009 22:12

I suspect that 24hrs cooling off period where all media and cyber will be shut down as to enable only those MIW to do THEIR THINGS behind. So be prepared to see funny things will definately be out in the news first thing the MSM will publish out to the full disadvantage of all the opposition parties this time the following day. Its all already planned out in their pipeline now cos this will be the last time for the ole man to pull all his tricks just to protect his beloved son to stay in power. There is no other way except to be firmed and vote them out before its too late.

Palpitation tak boleh tahan
Dec 1, 2009 22:15

Wow, singapore is Really Amazing!
Wow, Singaporeans are even more Amazing!

Role Model citizens for all other country leaders?

So Amazing they keep coming up new rules and ideas for the election.
Who are these brains behind these thingies?
Is there a face to these talents? simply bombastic talents.

Imagine, even when the election is potentially can be held by 2012, Already we have seen them implemented so many thingies.
I wonder, After the election what more surprises could be Expected?

ho say liao.

tiredsingaporean
Dec 1, 2009 22:17

I think this is just another way of getting rid of all the foreign medias and reporters out of this GE so whatever happen or going to happen in this coming election, the dirtiest things would not be able to be reported in any foreign medias, and thats very dirty game.

Leadership Is No More What It Used To Be
Dec 1, 2009 22:22

Absolute power corrupts absolutely! The worst kind of corruption is not gross but subtle, to the point that undiscerning people may not even detect it.

Once in power, once tasted power, no one will let it go. The grip will always be tighter and tighter, not the other ways around. The greed for power knows no boundaries. It is a fact of life.

Giving a 24 hours of so-called “cooling off” is, to me, just a red herring. It is simply to cater to those who complained of the election campaign being too short, only 8 days. Honestly, what can another additional day do, even without the ridiculous pro-PAP restrictions imposed?

Such kind of “improvement’ speaks volumes about the person who got the cheek to say it out so unashamedly. It simply shows how small hearted a person can be. Not only that, how cunning and narrow one can be.

They don’t make real gentlemen no more, even if they happened to have gone through the British Highest Education System, Cambridge or Oxford and all that. Simply a waste of time and talent.

SATAY
Dec 1, 2009 22:25

cooling off period? err, can at least “let” netizens post comments or not?

judging by the face and furious pace seen here, they ain’t gonna get any support from those wired.

vote for change. vote for future.

David
Dec 1, 2009 22:27

Singapore have been caught in heated oven after the last election and suddently they wanted to pour cold ice to cool us down within a day? No thank, LHL, you can continue cooling but never treat Singaporean like morons, your team has been calling us names and lesser mortals. So we are divided and I shall not play into your card this time.

tiredsingaporean
Dec 1, 2009 22:29

or maybe they need that 24hrs to mobilize and deploy all their spf and military personnel to block out all the supporters from supporting the opposition parties this time while the MSM keeps trumpeting all the papees hoo ha. anything can happen this time, cos its the last time.

Seventh Son
Dec 1, 2009 22:44

1 day or 1year cooling off period don’t make a diff to me, cos I have been given ample time during these few years to think about what this govt has done for the people. And the my decision is I will vote for a C.H.A.N.G.E. I dun want my children to live under this system they created.

Utopia
Dec 1, 2009 22:44

After the PAP gov get vote out, a “24-hour cooling-off” period after Polling Day” will make more sense and meaning. This cooling period is for PAP to prepare their own funeral, aka the death of PAP Party. This cooling day will be the public holiday as a day to remember that Leegime has fallen.

Utopia
Dec 1, 2009 22:49

Sissy,
everyday is a cooling day for lesser mortal. Why need another cooling day before election ? Just because you, Papa Lee and Ivory Tower Troops are Gods and Demi-Gods ?

Ricki de Marco
Dec 1, 2009 22:58

hahaha this cooling off has no effect on me at least.
I am 100% immuned to it.
Totally effectiveless on me.

Its either a 1 / 0. Yes/ no. when it comes to voting.

Chua Bee Hoon
Dec 1, 2009 23:00

I already have enjoyed too many cooling off period since the end of the last election. No diff 1 more day.

Its Game Over babe.

radlife66
Dec 1, 2009 23:03

i think they were spook by the AWARE turn out! Good :-))

Curious
Dec 1, 2009 23:06

I have one question. Can some of the learned people here enlighten me.

If, on that ‘cooling off” day, a group of civic minded people( not related to any political party,) gather at Hong Lim park and give some speeches, asking people to vote for the opposition, will that be illegal?

just wonder
Dec 1, 2009 23:46

Cooling-off period is not new in other countries, we follow them. 100% single seat is also not new in other countries, why didn’t we follow?

tom
Dec 1, 2009 23:53

PM Lee said in the previous election (2006) that he needs to spend time thinking how to get rid to Oppositions if they are voted in!!!
That why he needs “24-hr cooling period”.

If PM Lee can alter the changes as and when he likes, God knows what will he impose on after the election…..

Every after election, PAP will either start arresting the Oppositions or suing them for defamation. Next, will Increase the cost of Everything which PAP can think of, from Transporation, GST, Utilities, Housing, Health, Education, etc.
Also not forgeting increasing the PAP salaries…..

But CPF cannot take out. Temasek, town councils, local banks make hugh Losses.

Soon almost everything in S’pore will be pay-per-use. (PAP need CASH badly)
Pay up front for Utilities.
Pay up front for EZ-Link, as more cashless systems will be in place.
Pay income tax each month instead of every year.
(Australia practise this tax system just like the cooling-off period. PM Lee said he is following Aussie election system, he can also follow the Tax System)
Pay on the distance travel for vehicles capture by GPS.
Pay & Pay……

What is happening now in Dubai will also happen in S’pore especially when famiLee is around.

WE are All Drained Out with PAP around.

Time For A Change.

Bar Chor Mee
Dec 2, 2009 0:01

Is this cooling a special day for them to prepare marshall law in case of freak results? I fear you not LHL, I will stand in front of your firing squat and die as hero so that this very day we shall be remembered for many generations to come, and your father shall no-longer be well-loved by people across the nations and your generations of children marked with black names.

cro
Dec 2, 2009 0:20

Far worse then being coward. Let see how the incumbent can shut-off the mighty Internet.

dirtylinen
Dec 2, 2009 0:23

“You can get anything you want in Singapore. You can travel, you can bring it in. You can – you can organize what you want. You can say anything you want, and all sorts of things are said and debated in Singapore.”

Really ?? Then why is there a need for Speakers’ Corner ? ISD ? Whitley Rd Detention Centre ??

maxell
Dec 2, 2009 0:31

Seriously, it’s a pathetic resort masked as a political strategy. LHL is loosing it. He’s showing all the signs of a loser, albeit a terrible one. All these gimmicky propositions only render his weakness more obvious, i.e. his inability to lead, to instil confidence in his people. He is just not cut for the job. He is not able to RELATE to his people. Bottom line, how many of us feel a sense of connection with him ?

Neutral
Dec 2, 2009 0:35

I’m facinated by the comments online which seems emotional enough to me though, whereby some even ended up a little too personal?? Is there such a need to go in that direction just to voice out discontentment? What help does it do? Personal satisfaction perhaps. With or without the cooling off period, I just hope Singaporeans can vote rationally. If more oppositions win in the next election, I sincerely hope that they can deliver what they promised, for the good of the people and Singapore globally, and not entering into the arena because of emotionally driven votes. Whatever it is, vote sensibly.

Too Old to last another day
Dec 2, 2009 0:39

Aiiyah! the reason for the cooling-off day is to give the grand old men in white time to sleep for one day.

They are not getting any younger you know!

9 straight days campaigning and spend a lot of energy to ‘FIX’ the younger 30 something opposition candidates at like in AMK last time, then must quickly give press conference, then form put up new garment from old cabinet can cause serious health problems. So take one day time off to sleep lah. Let other people stay awake, sit at their flavourite kopi shop and at least got one more chance to enjoy the last cup of 90cents Kopi, because after election, surely increase to $1.

Sigh
Dec 2, 2009 1:10

its so sad this sorry state of affairs….cooling off period will just be the chance for PAP to spread their blanket of fear & threats for one whole day !!!!

Nazryn
Dec 2, 2009 1:36

We are moving towards Iran’s direction. Rigging and influiencing elections.

We can also move towards the direction of the Iranian public! Make use of new media to support the cause of real democracy. With 5 million people(plus minus) “flouting” the rule, what are they going to do, place all of us in Whitley or put us under house arrest. Singapore cannot afford to stay undemocratic to a certain extend. A requirement for close friendship with USA!

AN
Dec 2, 2009 2:27

Mr Prime Minister, first thing first, before you spout such kind of nonsensical idea with your 147th ranking media, pls note that majority S’poreans don’t actually agree with what you are doing. And Mr PM, you know what you should do?

If you are man enough, you should abolished GRC system and change to all SMC fight. You should also abolished ISA, allow independant media coverage, independant judiciary, independant Police Force, and most of all please tell your Team to play by the rules when the next GE comes.

If all the above are not met, you can sing what you want. Tell the whole world that S’pore is a democratic country under your rule. But don’t forget, people ar not stupid anymore. And thanks to internet,.

Please be man enough to fight all fronts squarely and gentlemenly. When you win, only then you can claim you have the people’s mandate. When you imposed unfair system to rig election results, or as your Papa said, that the election system in S’pore is engineered in such a way that the opposition can’t win, then you don’t win gentlemenly.

And by the way, before you forget, you are the highest paid PM in the world. If you think you and your Team deserve such obscene salaries, pls justify your performance. Is it so difficult to govern a size like S’pore? Tell that to Mr Barrack Obama and I’m sure he will think that you have the most cushy job in the world without any responsibilities and accountability!

If you think you are so good Mr PM, pls try to debate all opposition parties on national TV on your Party’s policies and what not! Tell your Team don’t hide underneath your Papa’s ass and depend on him to defend your Party. If your Team is really that good, all MPs should be capable in defending their positions.

Try debating like any democratic country of the world. Eg, Australia, Europe and USA. All First World Countries. Singapore is still not First World yet FYI, Mr PM. First World countries, don’t sue their opposition parties. First World Countries don’t suppress their citizens like you do. First World Countries have Minimum Wage Scheme. First World Countries debate policies ‘LIVE’ on national TV.

First World Countries have independent media., judiciary, Police force, military force are all independent from the Government.

If you still have some conscience for S’poreans, I suggest you as PM of this tiny red dot, to do some soul searching about your style of governance and ask yourself, if indeed after 44 years of iron-fist rule, has it really benefited S’poreans?

There is no doubt that under PAP rule, we have transformed from a ‘fishing village’ to a infrastructurally First World’ status. Pls note I mentoned only ‘infrastructurally’. You rated very poor on media independence, judiciary independence, human rights records, and also the obscene salaries that you and your Team are helping yourselves.

Until all the above are met, then only we S’poreans can proudly say, indeed we have a caring government, one that is perhaps ‘cheaper, better and faster’!!!!

Hope you have a good sleep Mr PM. I hope you still have this thing call ‘Conscience’ in you. Be very Happy if it hurts, Be very Worried, if it doesn’t!

cooling periods
Dec 2, 2009 2:31

Nowadays a cooling period is a must for a sales deal is signed. So cooling period of 7 days should apply after our votes are cast. Not happy with PAP after 7 days change your choice of vote for opposition can or not?

No Shame
Dec 2, 2009 7:03

Prettyplace @65

He cannot ban all oppos lah because the whole world will know he is baddy like North Korea’s leader’s Kim. Already father pass power to son are like N Korea. He has the world to consider otherwise you think he won’t? He tell the whole world and also Sporeans that Spore is democratic so he cannot ban oppos lah.

As long as he won’t abolish GRC, nothing he implements for election is for the good of the country or Sporeans. If he insists that GRC is for multi-representation, then we should have 4 Presidents since it is the head of state for 4.5 mil people, not just a few hundred thousand.

If we cannot vote the PAPs out, we must at least vote this clown out.

gemami
Dec 2, 2009 7:43

Now we know exactly where our place is in the eyes of the PAP rulers. A cooling-off period is very much like a time-out period a parent would imposed on his child for bad behavior.

A time-out period is generally imposed for one to reflect on his wrong-doings and to come to term with the bad behavior he might have shown, that warranted the time-out.

Now during this time of self-reflection, a parent would sit down with the child to tell him where he has done wrong so that he can reflect more productively and to correct his naughty behavior.

What then would this cooling-off period do in a political sense, especially during the hustle and bustle of election time? Simple, it would give the PAP (the parent) the opportunity to talk (via MSM) to the naughty child (voters considering change); and allowing the child to reflect (perhaps with threat of what will happen if the child persists in being naughty) on his naughtiness and hopefully come to his senses that being naughty will not do him, or anyone, any good.

It does not end here. The cooling-off period may not work on those naughty children who are hell-bent on being naughty; but; it will surely work on those who border between naughty and nice – the swing voters. There you have it, the reason for such a move.

Think about this, and you will see why this is a very clever move on the part of the PAP.

To those of us who aspires for change, we have to be cleverer than them – if not by whole, then by half – at least. This PAP government must begin to realize that we are not kids anymore.

Close 1 eye naive hum
Dec 2, 2009 8:20

Would this cooling swing back some of the votes from the Middle voters?
I mean many are very generous wan u know? They appreciate goodies and may feel generous?

Crendolini
Dec 2, 2009 8:23

“Workers’ Party secretary-general Low Thia Khiang raised similar concerns. The ruling party could “disguise” its campaign as news items in the mass media, but the Opposition would be unable to do so, he told MediaCorp.”

To people like me who have already made up their minds, not even an atom bomb can change a whisker of my decision.

I only worry for the apathetics who , imho , can at times seem like so pathetic.

Apathy is the stumbling block.

Crendolini
Dec 2, 2009 8:26

After voting, got 7 day cooling-off period to change mind or not?
curious nia.

Very Sure
Dec 2, 2009 8:35

Someone told me, there is a possibility after election, they actually scan the negative votes for records/planning before sealing up (witnessed by opposition). Is this possible?

Die-Hard Singaporean
Dec 2, 2009 8:35

“You can get anything you want in Singapore. You can travel, you can bring it in. You can – you can organize what you want. You can say anything you want, and all sorts of things are said and debated in Singapore.”

“We’ve got to support Singaporeans being spontaneous, being unconventional.We should not put obstacles in their way.”

Sad that the PM and every member of the elite actually believe their own propaganda. There can be no change for the better if the ruling class genuinely believe that all of us are already living in Utopia or the Garden of Eden. If you are already in heaven there is no where else better to go.

Chua Mui Loong
Dec 2, 2009 8:53

TOC why the need to question what he said when the nation is paying so many part timers and full timers handsomely to voice up issues?

Seems like no issue.

Palpitation Resonance Amplitudinal shockwave
Dec 2, 2009 9:11

I am sure the powerstations will still be running and the broadcast equipment will be functioning in parts of the island on cooling off day.

I am sure nothing is gonna block this broadcast, not even a FREAK event can happen.

LTK said : “For instance, he noted, if the Opposition were to campaign on, say, healthcare, the relevant government department could counter on policy issues on the cooling-off day.

Such stories can be run in the mass media without highlighting any PAP candidate, he said. “This will effectively give the ruling party an extra day of campaigning to the disadvantage of the Opposition.” ”

I will be switching off and not buying any newspapers on that day to support the call of cooling off.

Nevertheless, TV signals will still be going thru the SCV cables and airwaves will still be sent thru the atmosphere. Nothing can JAM these signals. Nothing can stop these from tapping on to the power grid.

I’m sure thing this act will not be an issue with the international community.

kf
Dec 2, 2009 9:14

I am also thinking of what the cooling off period (1 day) translates to citizens like us. Everyday, I see my fellow citizens scrambling day in and day out over tons of things, and that gives me the impression that such 1-day reflections (I am not asking for more) are meant for the super rich where they don’t have to worry about the daily struggles in life. Whatever reflection that needs to be done, would have already been done over a stretch period, not 1 day. In other words, whoever came up with this ‘bright’ idea, was and is still out of touch with the common citizen………

Ark
Dec 2, 2009 9:24

I bet headlines on ‘cooling-off’ day will read: Breaking: Opposition candidates WITHDRAW from elections for UNDISCLOSED reasons.

“There’s never too much time to to fix the opposition.”

GABRIEL
Dec 2, 2009 9:35

The very fact that there is official recognition for a need to have a cooling off period shows that the authorities are aware of the growing swell of discontent.
The cure is available: A democratic Parliament, with sufficient dissenting voices to bring forth meaningful debate. This way, there is hope that our next government will govern with wisdom, magnanimity and compassion.
We must have the courage not to give the clowns our precious vote. If these clowns hope to ride into power on the coattails of their more capable colleagues, then we must have the sagacity and the will not to cast our vote for the entire GRC team. Compromise is not the best way forward in this case.
The case of one bad apple spoiling the whole barrel of fruit is something worth keeping mind when we head to the polls. And there are enough of such apples in the present government team that would not have got the people’s vote, if they had stood in single seat constituencies.

FriedKwayTiaoWithHum
Dec 2, 2009 9:48

Come on people, we really really need this 1 day cooling off period.

Just look at how the majority of us have voted in the the past 44 years. We have voted for the PAP in every past election without thinking what we are getting ourselves into.

So a 1 day cooling off period will make us more rational and vote responsibly for ourselves and our children’s future.

So just think with a cool head and vote out those self-serving bast*rds

Colonel Faris Al Ghazi
Dec 2, 2009 10:01

If the govt do these, i may consider changing my vote (& my family’s + relatives)

1) The ministers in MR1-MR4 & SR5-SR9 take a 80% paycut. Why? Its because their high pay dont translate to any cost savings to the peasants. There are still familes with hardship & cost increases everywhere
2) Lower direct consumer costs – TC chgs, Property tax, PUB bills. Why? To begin with, most of these “govt” enterprises are profit driven
3) HDB prices – Give us a breakdown of building cost. Why? Becoz most Sporeans have made up their minds that HDB are in cahoots with SLA to burden HDB dwellers with sky high prop prices. Either come clean or reduce selling price of new HDB
4) Rule with humour – Im taken aback that our courts decided to sue a few comedians for wearing a tshirt of a kangaroo donning a judge’s robe. WTF!!!!!! Its just a blardy tshirt, for god;’sake!!!!!!

curious citizen
Dec 2, 2009 10:11

@80
I am curious if there is any good reason for them to contest in a single constituency.

I watched red cliff and in it, there was a strategy that was used in the naval battle. This seems quite relevant. In it, little ships on fire set off towards the great battle ships of Cao Cao. Cao Cao’s fleet was chained together since his army was not proficient in naval warfare, and in doing so, gave his soldiers more stability. This itself was a weakness in which the combined forces of Sun Quan and Liu Bei exploited.

Burning one ship would be tantamount to destroying those within close proximity. Even the sinking ship would be dead weight bringing those it was linked with into a watery grave.

It would be better if they stayed within a GRC or even a 6member GRC. But then again, if I had thought of this, others would have come upon it just as easily. Its no wonder that there are now 9 SMCs.

I wonder which greater mortal would be offered up to do battle? I wonder who will feel nervous and have to find a “jamban”? Or who might come up with another quirky quote to win over support from voters. The decision to vote in someone who determines the quota of public housing? The one who is elite and uncaring?

So curious.

Wong Kan Seng
Dec 2, 2009 10:15

Please come over to Bishan-Toa Payoh and vote me and my GRC out of there. My underwear needs a change, I’ve been wetting it ever since the Mas Selamat Kastari embarrassment.

I’d rather be voted out, then resign in honour.

Dumb and dumber
Dec 2, 2009 10:27

In my opinion, the target is the new media this time. Don’t under-estimate them. They may detached from the people, but they aren’t stupid and they do long term planning.

Peter Tan
Dec 2, 2009 10:32

Reacting to the proposal, Lim Boon Heng, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office and PAP chairman, said: “Choosing your representative in Parliament is a serious matter. So I think it is a good idea to allow people to reflect what has been said during the campaign period and then to make a considered decision on how they would vote on Polling Day.

“A 24-hour reflection shouldn’t make people forget about the essentials of the campaign. It will make a difference when emotions are stirred up too high for whatever reasons. It is not something new that we have thought up. It is something which has been adopted in some countries too.”

1) When it is to their advantage, they say they follow other countries’ moves or examples

2) When it is not to their advantage, eg why are they drawing Ministers’ salaries that are 100 times other countries, they say we should not compare.

Always comparing only at their conveniece. These Ministers have really lost the moral authority to lead.

PM also fail to tell the people the campaigning period in overseas eg Australia can be for 2 to 3 months instead of Singapore’s 9 days (hence the 3 day cooling-off period in Australia).

Utopia
Dec 2, 2009 10:35

“Mr Prime Minister, first thing first, before you spout such kind of nonsensical idea with your 147th ranking media, pls note that majority S’poreans don’t actually agree with what you are doing. And Mr PM, you know what you should do?

If you are man enough, you should abolished GRC system and change to all SMC fight.”

That’s the problem. He is not a man, he is a sissy, and that explain why he doing thing so sissily and irritatingly. But his wife is manly, and that is why after losing billions, can still live a life of no regret and still be a head of Temasek. No wonder Singapore is sinking.

Depresso
Dec 2, 2009 10:38

It would also appear to me that this cool down period is a tactical move to sway the undecided voters to subscribe to the PAP’s policies. As Workers’ Party secretary-general, Mr. Low Thia Khiang had correctly pointed out, the relevant government department could counter on policy issues previously raised by the opposition on the cooling-off day, which will have a determining influence over the undecided voters.

Dumb and dumber
Dec 2, 2009 10:40

To 127) Colonel Faris Al Ghazi on December 2nd, 2009 10.01 am

in my opinion, you are wasting your breathe. If they can change, they won’t be detached in the first place. They are like Cao cao. Stability (staying in power) is more important to them to the extent that they no longer see the problem – i.e. at the expense of the people.

I made the mistake of not convincing my family members to vote for change in the last election. I am correcting it this time.

PS: Vote for change or be prepared to become a “quitter”. Choose.

Utopia
Dec 2, 2009 10:40

Just in case everyone forget that this sissy is once a Brigadier General. Farting Freak Appointment due to nepotism ! Can even be a general that always disappear when shit happens.

Utopia
Dec 2, 2009 10:43

“PS: Vote for change or be prepared to become a “quitter”. Choose.”

PS: Vote for change or be prepared to become a “quitter” or a “loser”. Choose.

Shocked!
Dec 2, 2009 10:46

Lets’s imagine if alternative parties win 55% this time, the one day cooling off would have been exploited by msm to reduce such percentage by another 10% to 15% – resulting in alternative parties lossing small margin of vote again and giving PAP 98% seats in parliament. We do not want such tragedy to happen. This coming election is truly a judgement day, compromise is not an option, If we do not change now, we will never be because the daylight is getting darker even as I typed this message. Singaporeans must perservere and not be intimidated by pap in the election. When our will is strong for change, there is hope for all of us, otherwise it is as good as a death sentence for true-borned Singaporeans without pardon by our president.

jonlatio
Dec 2, 2009 10:57

“You can get anything you want in Singapore. You can travel, you can bring it in. You can – you can organize what you want. You can say anything you want, and all sorts of things are said and debated in Singapore.”

“We’ve got to support Singaporeans being spontaneous, being unconventional.We should not put obstacles in their way.”

‘I can’t control several million videos on YouTube. But your website, what you are putting out in your own name, I think that should end on the day before cooling-off day.”

Good jokes there, Mr. PM.

Brendon Tau
Dec 2, 2009 11:11

the opposition have to put in all their best to win this time.
so many surprises already.
i wonder what else could surprise on the cooling off day?
but would anyone be able to respond even if happen to be so?
I hope opposition treat this like their last chance.
give it all you have, it may be your last chance.

jonlatio
Dec 2, 2009 11:24

Maybe we do need the extra day to cool down and think:
Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do for you!

“The extra day of non-campaigning will also apply to a presidential election.”

Huh? What? Do presidential elections get quite emotional that we all need to take a 24hr cooling off period?

Its about time
Dec 2, 2009 11:31

Perhaps the cooling off period will help people decide rationally after all. What is needed is detailed paper, to be given out the day before the cooling off period. It should contain all the facts which were never reported by the MSM. Everything thing should be listed, like the list of price hikes which used to be on TOC, the details of their incompetence, Mat Slamat issue, the TC bonus issue, the TC loses and the lack of accountability, the details of the MPs who sit in so many boards. The list of people at Temasek and GIC and the losses they suffred and yet were not held accountable. The statistics and analysis like the ones done by Leong and what ever else which will show thw people their true colours. But the opposition must be careful not the say anything which will bring out a defamation suit.
People can then have the day to read everything and I am sure the MSM cannot rebutt everything in 24 hours. So people start working

Its about time
Dec 2, 2009 11:35

Anyway my thinking is that the opposition cannot win by arguing specific issues. It should focus on the swelling discontent with the ruling party and highlight their lack of accountability, transparency and their disrespect for the people and for making decision with impunity.

rwkc
Dec 2, 2009 11:38

Papies, hope by now the message has sunk in – we are going to kick your butts by voting you out, to stop you from your deceitful ways and from doing any further damage.

No amount of gimmickry will save you from the people’s angst. You have shown yourselves to be a bunch of cowards with selfish motives. It is now pay-back time!

To all people, let’s show the papies what we the people can do.

Kiyda
Dec 2, 2009 11:52

Let’s see.

1) Liberal foreign “talent” policies; loss of jobs due to these “talents” whereas a Singaporean would be able to do it. 2) Astronomical ministerial salaries because our ministers are top talents. 3) Raising cost of living and cost of housing. 4) GST increase of 2% to help the poor but how come still so many charities asking for money. 5) Media rankings and freedom of speech and expression; 1 man rally now considered illegal. 6) NS for Singaporean males, jobs for PRs.

Yes, I need 24 hours to think carefully about these issues and other polices that are affecting me and my country before I decide who to vote for. 24 hours is more than enough thanks.

XP
Dec 2, 2009 12:02

i personally agree with Workers’ Party secretary-general Low Thia Khiang. the fact that our media is wholly controlled by the current government has made this whole bureaucratic business of having this “cooling-off period” nothing but a disguised scam. obviously, the day would soon turn out to be nothing but an endless broadcast about the glorious pap on the nation’s broadsheet and (not so)free-to-air tv channels.

how absurd.

did mr lee mention, for example, the fact that Australia hasn’t a state-funded, government-controlled media?

gemami
Dec 2, 2009 12:27

You guys still do not get it. The cooling-off period is not for people like you and me, the ones who are already set in our minds on who we want to vote for – with or without the election campaigning.

The cooling-off period is neither for hot-headed people to cool down either. No. no. If you think the reason given by the PM is the real reason for the need to cool down, then you are being hoodwinked once again.

We all know the margin between winning and losing this coming election boils down to the minute details. There is a higher likelihood that the PAP might lose more seats than at any time in the past 50 years. This is cause for concern, at least from their perspective.

It has over the years played with the boundary lines, the introduction of the GRC scheme, the NMP and NCMP schemes, the absolute control of the minds in its MSM etc. This is another extension to it ploy; only that this time it is attempting to scare the swing-voters. It knows that the swing-voters hold the cards between victory and defeat for them.

The one day cooling-off is for the MSM to argue, in totality and finality, for the ruling regime. Everyone here can see through the scheme. We can only hope that the swing-voters see through it too and decide for themselves that they too want to be rid of this nannying – to be treated like kids without thinking brains.

jiangbao
Dec 2, 2009 12:49

The 24 hours is for them to gather the public service to start marking a cross on all ballot papers so that they can return to power with 100% and all seats. Does not matter who we vote cause at the end of the day, they decided for you….

xtrocious
Dec 2, 2009 12:55

Actually I am quite disappointed by our esteemed leader…

Why do we need the 1-day cooling off period before we vote?

Please sir, we are not sheeps but thinking and rational human beings…

We won’t vote with our hearts – we will vote with our heads and even our heads tell us that the current rot is much too severe to let it continue…

What we need is serving civil servants – not self-serving ones

Even us – the poor grunts – know that to increase our productivity, we need to work smarter, not cheaper

But touching on costs, the biggest components are actually rent and other miscellaneous business costs imposed by the government…

Shouldn’t they be taking the lead insteading of just squeezing us on wages?

mike
Dec 2, 2009 13:02

i think by 2012 it is a showdown for pap like the movie, end of the world.

vote for change!

popcorn
Dec 2, 2009 13:03

Pity the PM as things had not gone well during his premier days the past two years. So many unexpected events had unfurled before his eyes. As the recession drags on, the sea of discontent and unhappiness is growing bigger.
People are sceptical about the mainstream newspapers reports about Singapore finally clawing out of recession.
As the son of MM, he is clearly worried about the next GE as it a matter of face.
On his performance as PM, if he does well people would say he is trying to be as good as his father, and when he does not perform well, people would say he is not as good as his father. Either way he is no winner.

TantheSingaporean
Dec 2, 2009 13:10

Here we are engaging in a debate about Pinky’s proposal
which could end up moot as many of us would never get
to vote because of walkovers.
I have live here all my life and I have never casted a single vote
I am 50

I Can Honestly Say . . .
Dec 2, 2009 13:17

I rather vote for a change and have a chance then to vote for the MIW and face certain demise.

Keep talking down on us and see if you will garner more votes when the GE comes.

Just the thought of having kids under the current regime seriously defuses my spontaneity in the bedroom.

lim
Dec 2, 2009 13:55

I think we can all see what the past years had brought singaporeans.. Did PAP give singaporeans’ a better live? What policies did PAP implement that are good for singaporeans? Fact is, I can’t think of any…
We need checks and balances, not absolute power to one party..
Use your votes to kick them out, for your childrens, nieces, nephews futures, if not for yourself..

presidential election ?
Dec 2, 2009 14:09

“The extra day of non-campaigning will also apply to a presidential election.”

Provided if there is going to be a presidential election.

So far, 2 out of 3 rounds went uncontested which has not really done justice to the definition of the word called “election”. Why do we have “intelligent” people insulting such sacred matter.

Ah kim
Dec 2, 2009 14:10

This is bloody disgusting and absolutely shameless. It’s plain to see this benefits solely the ruling party. The only people they are fooling with their purported reasons are really our seniors and our elderly citizens who are not so internet savy or are not atuned to the lack of information freedom in Singapore. This is almost akin to bullying those who do not have the ability or resource to defend their right to information.

The question let’s ask ourselves here is how can this have happened and why do we feel so helpless now to defend ourselves and defend our elders/seniors? Should this not signal a much needed change?

Cynthia Puah Long Tong mee hum foodie
Dec 2, 2009 14:32

To me, this thingie only causes more restlessness / jittery on the ground.
how to cool off like this?

singaporeans are the most tamed in the whole world. There is no need for this thingie.

If a person is apathetic, there is nothing gonna change them. They dun bother about political news or discussions. They more likely will not even be bothered to watch whatever Mediacorp has prepared to send the images, words and sounds to the viewers. They simply switch channel.

Those non-apathetic had already made up their minds long ago. There were too much time for them to make a firm decision since the last election.

Now, due to lack of opposition in parliament, we see them able to pass new rules. Imagine, what else is possible in future.

The people are responsible for giving mandate.

Never vote pap
Dec 2, 2009 14:35

pap are telling Singaporean that they are good enough, whenever election coming, they will come out stupid idea, such as GRC etc…….We must look at Japan, England, USA.etc…. They use to change rulling party quite often,their country still alive, they are still very advance, don’t worry, don’t vote pap anymore, change them

Ching Chong Chang
Dec 2, 2009 14:35

Lets see when the cooloff day is set.
Meanwhile the economy in uncertainty.
The longer time passes by, the more uncertainty whether the next financial crisis will come. 2012 is not far away.
Do they still want to wait for better times?

Yamamoto
Dec 2, 2009 14:43

Well dear LHL, just go ahead and create more of this…..”great” ideas….if LHL didn’t propose this type of suggestion, the people won’t make so much noise….but now they are wacking themselves by showing off yet again their intention….shifting the goal post

Qualala
Dec 2, 2009 14:43

Seems to me another 50 years for the PAP and even no more opposition in parliament soon.

What new rules can they not pass given the People never allowed more than 2 or 3 opposition leaders into parliament where it houses more than 80 what is-called people’s representatives?

Chimoko
Dec 2, 2009 14:46

So who is gonna check on the votes counting?
Nominated by who?

Opposition need to have more members to help them .

I hope more people come support the opposition parties.

tibumonana
Dec 2, 2009 14:48

What are the Rules for Vote Counting?
Can these be Changed as well?
If so, who is there to oppose?

mike
Dec 2, 2009 14:51

this joker has been running for two terms and yet he and lackeys screwed up so many issues and what the hell on earth that he thinks he can ‘cool down’ in 24 hrs to get thing done properly.

maybe he meant how to get thing ‘fix’ up for oppts.

Kit Kat
Dec 2, 2009 15:19

On Cooling Off Day, all political parties and the people on the Net are to muzzle themselves. But our dear friends in the national media under the guise of “news reporting” get free rein to push whatever line they can and will.

It’s also disturbing to note that the head honcho of MediaCorp is the in-law of a PAP Member of Parliament and that SPH is chaired by a former PAP minister. Surely there is a potential conflict of interest issue, not only on Kool Aid day but during the entire campaign period, that is not being addressed .

Spare a thought for the poor sods in MediaCorp and SPH who won’t be allowed even a day’s break. How appropriate the saying: “THERE CAN BE NO REST FOR THE WICKED.”

blackfeline
Dec 2, 2009 15:50

i think the PM looks terrible (physically) for the past months! I got a strange feeling his health is not that good as before! And he has aged tremendously!

tiredsingaporean
Dec 2, 2009 16:08

whether 1 day or 1 week or even 1 more month cooling off period, singaporeans now will just have to stand firmed and boot all these useless MIW out coming election. We have all been snooped far to too long, 44 years is really a long time being treated like morons.

MataMan
Dec 2, 2009 16:09

“I just hope Singaporeans can vote rationally. If more oppositions win in the next election, I sincerely hope that they can deliver what they promised, for the good of the people and Singapore globally, and not entering into the arena because of emotionally driven votes. Whatever it is, vote sensibly.” – Neutral

Dear Neutral, I vote based on my own vested interest and what the alternative party offers and whether i agree and sympathise with their goals and convictions. It is not my job as a private citizen to delve into the problems of Singapore’s global image abroad and whatnot. I believe ministers are paid handsomely to do just that.

My biggest worry during this 24h period is that there could be a “conincidental” failure in internet bandwidth i.e the government can effectively silence alternative media online by simply requesting our local ISPs to block certain websites on that day. Besides, have any of you experienced problems connecting to TOC recently?

Ivan
Dec 2, 2009 16:17

Cooling-Off Day? Wonderful Idea! Make it a public holiday! This would be a great day to organise a flash mob in some prominent place downtown to spell out the words, “F#@% the PAP” with their bodies a la NDP mass displays and then disperse quickly, before the mata-mata come along …

ZL
Dec 2, 2009 16:38

If opps won 2 GRCs, pap might declares that we have not cool down enough and therefore have to re-draw the boundaries and call go election again.

gemami
Dec 2, 2009 16:43

Imagine the recent boxing match between Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto having a cooling-off period, with the judges retiring for one day to cool-off before deciding who the winner should be? Now you understand why this new suggestion is such a joke.

Why not go the distance? Throw in a fund-raising charity show with Mediacorpes actors at the Marina Barge complete with fireworks for the entire cooling-off day. Have the Roti-Prata VIP grace the occassion; and oh yes, make white the colour theme.

Have a military march past, with SAF fighter planes zipping over the skies and Naval vessels carrying out naval drills at Marina Bay.

To round off the evening, have a foam party that last from sundown to sunrise. This will surely help voters decide who to vote for – with very cool heads.

tiredsingaporean
Dec 2, 2009 17:34

hey gem,

better stop giving all sorts of ideas less those MIW might just go ahead with some of them, after all when they are really running out of ideas and panicked, they might just do alot of funny things just to keep them in power, and in the end the citizens are going to suffer for any actions by the ruling party all these years.

Politicla SalesMaN
Dec 2, 2009 17:36

Don’t worry be Happy, On the eve of the Polling Day. The PAP will give every household 1-2 thousand Dollar to Cool U Down. Because Temasek & GIC lost multi-Trillion of $. Afraid all sekeleton will be dig out from the closet.

cravat
Dec 2, 2009 17:41

You singaporeans are despicably ungrateful lots. Decide your votes based on which benefits you most, not your temporary emotion. BE GRATEFUL!!

Politicla SalesMaN
Dec 2, 2009 17:43

@ jangbao, Yes U’re right . I myself has experience this, when I was a Polling Agent for one opposition incumbent at kIm Keat again Ong Teng Cheong. B 4 the Polling started I inspect the Ballot Boxes in every Class Room. There was one Class Room , which the officer prevent me from inspection. I suspected it Fishy.

isupportu
Dec 2, 2009 17:46

Another fantastic move by the Govt. Opposition fear what? Don’t be ball less lah. If you are good, you are good.

PAP all the way!

BlindMan
Dec 2, 2009 17:48

Lesson 101 on “why I will vote PAP”

1) No one is left behind

2) Staying together to move ahead

3) MSK escape, what to do it has happened

4) Buy forzen meat its cheaper

5) GST to help the poor

6) CPF for retirement

7) Very fast in forming a comittee made up of same people for investions

8) Made us rich by letting the lease of our homes go up and up

9) Help solve the low birth rate problem by importing foreigners

10) kept us lean and fit with national service and reservist

11) Keep motivating us to work harder , faster and cheaper

12) Gave us good returns on our CPF invesments via the GIC / Temasek

13) Good laws, Jail for foreigners or elites too, they dont just get away with a fine

14)ERP solved our road conjestions

15) Old folks dont have to work so hard, they can work simple jobs like janitor, etc

16) Won International medals like table tennis

17) No corrupted officals as they are paid decent salaries

These are the reasons why I will vote for the PAP

How about you? What are your reasons ?

btan
Dec 2, 2009 18:20

The more I think about it, the more I feel scared of a frightening revelation.

Initially, I thought the cooling off period was meant for PAP to get more votes by assuming people will suddenly switch from wanting to vote for opposition to wanting to vote for PAP. Such scenario is highly unlikely except for the chronic fickle-minded voters.

The real deal, I think, is that this cooling period is really a trap. A mine field. By having this rule, any candidate or specifically, any party who violated this new rule, may find itself disqualified or worse, charged in court.

And this is not a minefield easily avoided. For example, a party may have to disable it’s entire website or remove ALL its posting on the internet (including personal blogs) to be considered not violating a rule. As you can see, it is very easy to have small misstep and once you step on the minefield…KABOOM!

Worse, if a supporter who does not belong to the party continue to make posting about that party, that party may also be liable even though they are not involved.

THAT, I think is the real reason of the cooling off period rule. To create a trap that, should an opposition party win a GRC, they can pick bones on that party and disqualify them of the results, via the judiciary, just because they happened to find evidence of an article posted by a candidate at 12:01am during the cooling off day, for example.

So one small mistake, the opposition party that won big may turn into losing big. The beauty of this trick is that it is so simple to execute. The rules is subjective and open to interpretation by the Singapore Court (just like the loitering in polling station incident). Hence the Court can easily decide which party has violated the rule and thus face disqualification and which party has not.

As such, such an evil trick, if true, by PAP really goes beyond normal human decency just to win votes to continue to oppress the people.

Baccarat
Dec 2, 2009 18:23

Goh CT was remembered for his effort to slightly open more space for personal and individual liberty though he turned backward after he was “promoted” to SM, warmed the PM seat for 13 years…. lol

LHL will be remembered for his cabinet’s failure to foresaw the coming of economical downturn, his wife ’s brillian’s strategy of bought high sell deep low ( just before the stocks return to high ), his hyprocrasy of “manipulating” the number of oppositio seats , his son’s arrogant of writing letter directly to Minister for a duty swap and absentee matter, and well, now his cool off proposal for a tightly staged singapore’s style of democracy

I was one that was brain-washed by the press about the radicalism of JBJ in the 80s and now realized that, being mild and moderate oppositions, we are going to regret.

Come next election, the trapped true blue Singaporean,s PLEASE STAND UP TO VOTE !

winner
Dec 2, 2009 19:15

“if he does well people would say he is trying to be as good as his father, and when he does not perform well, people would say he is not as good as his father. Either way he is no winner.”

What do you expect ? After all, they (all in a family) are so prominent and holding important positions ? Put it this way, can you choose not to notice it even if you want to ? He is no winner ? Are you kidding ? He no winner, so you think you winner meh ?

SY
Dec 2, 2009 19:38

A vote should always be a rational and collected decision. Irrationality and emotions are as big a threat to democracy as is corruption and rigging.
If the opposition parties claim to have sound arguments, good alternatives to current policies, then the cooling off period should not be a problem. If they are able to persuade the rational voter to choose them by fronting strong candidates and sound arguments, then they have little to fear from this change.

I believe no party should exploit emotions and irrationality to win the vote. By being so vehemently opposed to the change, the opposition is indicating that they do so.

Khua Buck Tong
Dec 2, 2009 19:41

This act will only make people luv them more. ;)

178) Baccarat on December 2nd, 2009 6.23 pm
“Goh CT was remembered for his effort to slightly open more space for personal and individual liberty though he turned backward after he was “promoted” to SM, warmed the PM seat for 13 years…. lol”

the so-called ‘Opening up’ actually does more good to their reputation than not. International bodies have been giving them poor rankings in certain aspects.

No Shame
Dec 2, 2009 19:48

So oppos cannot play dirty but he can. I want my leader to be a gentleman and a talent, not this low grade mafia operator.

What new Policies will be waiting for us?
Dec 2, 2009 19:59

Lets not be distracted by this thingie.

Just do this :
1. Reach out to all your Apathetic friends and wake them up. Time is running out.
Those who woken up will automatically know what decision to make.

2. time is running out. All those who support Alternative should make all effort possible to help. Do everything we can before the cool off.

3. Keep our fingers crossed and Wait for nature to take its course.

I pray Lou Tee Wu Mak.
Else my i not sure what to do about my future.

Loobi Loo
Dec 2, 2009 20:04

The Game keeps changing.
Opposition must either come up something innovative to counter or prepare to be extinct.
The citizen population size has changed very significantly.

Politicla SalesMaN
Dec 2, 2009 20:23

@ 183 -Not only to wake up your Apathetic friends. The AH PEK. AH SOH—- AH PoH. PAP is very good in how to get this old Citizen vote. Cheat The Old. Also don’t be imtimmidated by second service in your ward, no BUS feeder in your consitutuency ! Understand ! !!!Crash The PAP!!!!
Sent Them to Abyss (Eighteen Chamber Of Hell)

Strategy
Dec 2, 2009 20:54

Keep mentioning these names when you meet up with friends & family:

Marbok Tan, Lee Bee Hwa, Lim Swee Say, Lui Tuck Lew, Calvin Cheng, Ho Ching……

Any of them any good?

TanAhTeck
Dec 2, 2009 21:08

151) TantheSingaporean

As one Tan to another, pls don’t give up. You are 50 and I am not far behind.

Surely, we’ll outlive LKY. When he is finally out of the way, we can perhaps see a better future for SG.

Our future generations will read in history books about the ousting of PAP just like the ousting of the British and the Japanese.

Actually, I feel the PAP is worst, they actually expect to be paid millions of dollars to torment us.

thinking soldier
Dec 2, 2009 21:12

Guys dont needa be so angry la! relax… Good opposition leaders will be prepared no matter what happens. If oppo good enough to challenge PAP then we fight along side them la… but also got those during GE very loud after GE disappear 1.. those guys win liao also we wont have a good life…. so still have to choose WISELY even if we r fighting for a cause..

Economist
Dec 2, 2009 21:19

187) thinking soldier

I am not angry. I have given up ALL hope for PAP.

I don’t see how another administration could be worse.

The PAP are just a bunch of uncaring elites. Any other party could be better. We just need one which actually LISTENS.

DavidSeeLeongKit
Dec 2, 2009 21:26

Yet another proof that the PAP Govt is “CUNNINGLY-clever” and not “COMPETENTLY-clever”:

> “CUNNINGLY-clever”
= pork-barrel politics eg use of public-funded HDB Upgrading to threaten/arm-twist voters
= election gerrymandering ie fiddling with electoral boundaries; not setting up independent Elections Commission

> “COMPETENTLY-clever” (as expected by Singapore Taxpayer-Voters of an Obscenely-Paid Million-Dollar Govt)
= able to solve our many national problems eg
high cost of living
high cost of homes (both private and HDB)
rich — poor income gap
jobs creation
rising divorce rate (within 5 years of marriage)
WHY took 30 years to admit to Chinese Language policy screw-up?
WHAT about the Stop-At-Two screw-up policy that resulted in huge influx of foreigners?
WHY took so long to tackle loan-shark problem?

PAP Manifesto for next General Election — BUY VOTES, FIX OPPOSITION ???

theforgottongeneration
Dec 2, 2009 21:33

@176) BlindMan on December 2nd, 2009 5.48 pm

18) They are so considerate; every 4-5 years, I’m exempted from voting least I trip and fall going to the ballot box.

19) Our leaders are picked based on meritocracy; just look at our chief unionist.

20) Dare to face problems head-on; see $250m spent on Baby bonus in 2008 even tthough the scheme was without basis and ended a total failure,

21) Strongly encourage us to keep fit by raising retirement age to 62 (or 65 soon?)

23) We are ahead of HK and Macau in terms of birth rate. Out of 224 countries, they are ranked 223 and 224. We are a cool 222. (Projections for 2009)

24) This is the land of dreams; where else would a president just sits pretty and collect millions bucks salary.

25) The SAF is always evolving; it used to be 2.5 + 13 years defending a country, now it is 2.5 + 13 years defending a city.

26) Brought us from a small fishing village in 1965 to First World now. Wondered why the Japs would schemed to capture a small fishing village in their initial strategic war plans in 1941.

27) We have a world class educational system. Now all we have to do is downgrade to one that can produce entrepreneurs and local talents.

28) We are very systematic in our approach to doing things. First, pay high wages to politicians so they wouldn’t be corrupt; next pay them more to be competent.

etc….

2011
Dec 2, 2009 22:06

Cooling off day got public holiday or not?

red_dot
Dec 2, 2009 22:08

Singapore must move towards a two-party system.
The people are matured now.We can do it together!

2011
Dec 2, 2009 22:49

I think LHL is the worst PM ever…. His father and Goh CK were the best PM during their time. They should just step down when they had done their best for Singapore.

Citizen
Dec 2, 2009 22:58

I am not bothered by the cooling off day, even if it becomes 10 days or 10 months.
I am not bothered about GRCs or changing rules.
Just give me the chance to vote.
Nothing will change my mind.

I want to Vote!

King Kong Tua Ling Kong
Dec 2, 2009 23:02

The cooling off will be no effect.
Why?
Because the whole island citizens already read their MSM news Everyday.

Hutton Poris
Dec 2, 2009 23:04

It was reported that other countries done this before.
But did the report mention are the MSM in these countries managed the same way ?
None of you readers mentioned this.

thinking more soldier
Dec 2, 2009 23:05

Very very skeptical view: Can you imagine what would happen if opposition shows too strong this time bu PAP still in power.. which u can be sure they will .. looking at the number of walk overs GRCs… which means they still hold power n our $$ and start stashing them somewhere for themselves or give to the new immigrants????? what will happen to us???? sorry ah just thinking more n more…..not scared meh… then hor… the PAP wards become super cities and the oppo wards become 1960s….zzzzz

tiredsingaporean
Dec 2, 2009 23:39

177) btan on December 2nd, 2009 6.20 pm

So one small mistake, the opposition party that won big may turn into losing big. The beauty of this trick is that it is so simple to execute. The rules is subjective and open to interpretation by the Singapore Court (just like the loitering in polling station incident). Hence the Court can easily decide which party has violated the rule and thus face disqualification and which party has not.

I agree this is definately a very very dirty trick by the papees, by doing so, they can pick up just about anything to disqualified the opp candidates. Well, all you true blue singaporeans out there, be prepared to fight hard alongside with your opp party candidates or face your doomsday soon.

lefleche
Dec 2, 2009 23:59

Funny how PM now wants to follow Australia and Indonesia’s political procedures? didnt he always say that democracy in these two countries led to instability and we shouldnt be like them?

i thought his political role-model should be North Korea because i realised, from reading and speakng more, that even Vietnam and China are not as communist as PAP. After all, this idiot did say after the last elections that the presence of opposition parties would cause instability which would drive away big investors like exxon-mobil. when he said that, i thought that was something that comppetely fits the thinking of the Democratic republic of KOrea which has utter stability through a govt that believes that governance is a family and friend business because good genes dont seem to come through any other bloodline. i almost wanted to believe that North Korea is the most prosperous, ranked most investor friendly country based on what LHL said.

also, i can explain why their were arguments, pushing and pressing during the elections. i saw one incident:

the police were stationed outside Serangoon stadium on the last day of the elections. the stadium was ot full yet, still alot of space on the field but police locked the gates and forbade singaporeans from going in to WP rally to hear d slyvia’s speech. busloads were arriving. people started to demand and shout at the police to open the gate, claiming that is it not full yet. but the policeman, i remember an ASsuperintendant, pleading with the people that he cant because of ’safety’ reasons. he even said that as a singaporean, he also wants to allow as many to enter and hear sylvia lim’s speech but he cant. he had to follow orders to ‘lock the gate’ and stop singaporeans from entering the WP rally. poor man, in full uniform n rank, in front of all his men, kenna shouted and cursed at, pleading for understanding and forgivenss of SIngaporeans.

wonder who gave the police the orders to lock the gates of a stadium taht is not even full yet?

even my mum now, who used to be the most ardent PAP supporter, always telling me to be grateful to the govt, now condemns the PAP after the million dollar pay increase, GST increase, MSK affair, Ho Ching’s undeserved appointment as S’pore’s professional gambler representing the people’s retirement funds, housing prices etc.

Vote for change. Vote for good governance. Vote to be respected by your leaders. Vote for leaders who know what they are doing and who care about you more than about money. Dont vote for PAP.

haha
Dec 3, 2009 0:11

don’t pattern pattern lah …. pls hv more balls to go for a fair election … even if you win also ‘lau Qwee’ …. shame on you.

Neutral
Dec 3, 2009 0:12

Please dun need complain so much.

If you got calibre, dun need to worry about 1 day or 10 days cooling off.

PAP got Masters degree, Scholars, well educated elites, people of high social status that can take care of the population as long as you pay them $2 – $3million per year etc – does the Opposition have?

The photos they portray of Kenneth Jeyaram in the newspapers are very unsightly – he has no ‘Da Jiang Zhi Feng’.

I just want to say the same old thing – say or scream all you can, nothing will change in this election.

No Scholar
Dec 3, 2009 0:33

Neutral @201: “say or scream all you can, nothing will change in this election.”

So the election is rigged then? How come you already know the results before the election even comes? No one can predict anything with such confidence unless it has all been arranged.

What “calibre” are you talking about? So “people of high social status” can take care of the population. Why and how? If you cannot convince, you are not doing your masters a favour, but the opposite of it.

BTW, if you don’t mind what is your IQ score? Want a website to test yourself?

walau
Dec 3, 2009 1:20

@200 lefleche

I would vote for the one who knows how to, and would take a long hard look at reforming the state i.e. thinking & questioning the nature of the state, its role and duties etc.

Otherwise I believe we r just replacing old Harry with any other Tom & Dick foolery, or worse.

ccchia
Dec 3, 2009 2:54

I wonder why Pinkie Loong wants to cool off the Sinkie peasants for 24 hrs before the upcoming GE? He and the old man must be afraid……very afraid of the coming results, even after their best attempts to fix the results of the GE in the PAPpy’s advantage.

We must certainly try to give the PAPpy a strong signal by voting wisely at the upcoming GE, to show our displeasure; assuming that is, most of us will be able to vote at all.

New Era
Dec 3, 2009 10:12

Jobs for foreigners, NSF for Singaporeans
Fine for foreigners, jail for Singaporeans

Enough is Enough
Time for Change is now.

If not now, when?
If not us, who?

Realist
Dec 3, 2009 10:49

I hardly read the state controlled paper (they are no longer mainstream to me) but I did yesterday, just to see how in Alex Au’s word, some suck on the demi-gods toes. From my reading, I realised that the brain stops working when you are sucking on toes. I almost died of laughter when it was declared that the mass-media (meaning state controlled media) has been fair and balanced and that cooling -off period gives the opposition better chance of getting into Paliament.

lim
Dec 3, 2009 11:04

202) Neutral

So by your reasoning, the Qing dynasty should still be ruling china now, since the emperor’s court have thousands of scholars, generals, while the revolutionists have only Dr. Sun Yat Sen..

So did Empress Dowager Chi Xi and her officials took care of the people well? Do some reading, it will open your eyes..

thehanginjudge
Dec 3, 2009 11:10

[i] does the Opposition have?[/i]

when leekuanyew seek independent from tengku abdul rahman
what was tengku thinkin?
the same thinkin as you just posted above…
the barisan socialist is lauya as well? when they were hawkers/painter/ahbengs?

thinking most soldier
Dec 3, 2009 11:11

Many of us guys spend our days in NS learning about how we r there to protect our parents family and friends, shall we add the foreign talents in too. It’s irritates me whenever I go back for reservice and the CO give us morale boosting speeches. Why am I protecting them and fearing them taking up our jobs when we go incamp….. that being said… will the oppositions do anything about this??? no 1 addressed this matter yet! so oppositions also don’t keep jumping at whatever is wrong with PAP but provide us with solutions please!!!

noiseMaker
Dec 3, 2009 11:41

It is so funny, everybody thought it is cooling but nobody thought of about those machineries.
Some machines are there to do printing. They can print tickets that can be slotted at the right moment. One day is enough to get them ready. I need time to work out how many to ship JIT and do all necessary.
Don’t disturb me, my machineries do not need cooling. The polling station is waiting for me.

jiangbao
Dec 3, 2009 12:48

btw straits times also reported most ppl do not think much about cooling down period. Apparently only those in white or the 82 of them thinks they need it..

even their own mouthpiece says otherwise, yet its going to go thru. why? because they could not really care about us, if they can already change our votes or they bring in the communist to change our votes.

are we finished?

Voice of Conscience
Dec 3, 2009 13:38

Reality

Appearance is not reality.
It’s pleasing, exciting
But also deceiving.

Elections, democratic
or otherwise, can
be rigged.

What is seen is not.
What is not seen
works behind the scene.

The result conceived,
planned, executed
to military precision.

Check what is behind.
Who is behind?
Who does the dirty works?

Then the reality,
the vacuum
will be filled.

You understand,
but really
do you?

A Singapore Citizen
Dec 3, 2009 14:29

To #210 Thinking Most Soldier

I agree with you it is fed up to see Singapore citizens serving NS when the foreigners and PRs are taking away the jobs and houses of Singaporeans. When I was called up for ICT this year, I spend 2 weeks listen to the cock-and-bull stories talked about by the SAF regulars about defending Singapore. These SAF regulars spend their entire life in the army and do not know what’s really happening outside the army. They have no sense of reality becos in their entire career, their jobs are only paper play in map planning exercises. They keep bullshiting about the importance of defending Singapore agst external threats to justify their own high pay, and the PAP, being incapable leaders, give in to the pressures of the SAF for higher pay and extending their retirement till 50 and promise them hugh retirement amount when they retired.

The reality is that the foreigners are already in heart of Singapore, and where is our defence lines?? Singapore has already been conquered!! Singaporeans are now slaves in our homeland and NS has become national slavery, not national service!!

Reform Party has good alternative policies to those of PAP. In their ND message, they promised to cut defence spending and taxes and restrict foreign workers. Go and vote for them! I don’t need another day to cool off to know who I should vote for! Even Reform Party didn’t contest in my constituency, I will vote for the opposition party, whoever it is. I am also getting my family members to vote for the opposition in the next GE! Without a strong opposition party in the parliament, the PAP will keep increasing defence spending and foreign workers in Singapore at the expense of Singapore citizens! For the sake of our next generation, we have to rally behind the opposition parties agst the PAP!

why bother to have it
Dec 3, 2009 14:33

“If you got calibre, dun need to worry about 1 day or 10 days cooling off.”

if you have calibre and are outside plato’s cave, would those inside the cave know it. your senses need to experience the hidden & visibility-scare calibre (empiricism ), purposely made scare by those pseudo magicians.

if need not have to worry about the cooling off period, then why bother to have it in the first place.

cravat
Dec 3, 2009 16:22

sure or not… you people have proof to back your point that the gahmen shorthanded you? I think the policy is mostly beneficial to us, although some need a bit tweaking to work more efficiently.

sorry for you all who waste time whining

Say no to nonsense
Dec 3, 2009 16:34

To Neutral @ 202…

Hey… u dun seems so neutral afterall as your name suggested…
Perhaps you are trying to use your name to misguide the people here?

Please define your high “calibre” here. What are the criteria of “high calibre”? Do you think having being great academically equates to “high calibre”? Dun make me laugh… seems like you are out of touch with this world.
Arguably the greatest person in the world at the moment, Barack Obama, is not reknown for his academic prowess. Can you say he does not poccess “high calibre”? Does that means anyone esle with better grades are more deserving being the president of USA?
Try telling that to the Americans…

At the same time, some of your so call high calibre PAP members, are not really that high calibre (based on your yardstick) too. Charles Chong has only (by your yardstick) a Diploma… Seng Han Tong has a degree from a relatively little known Uni… Many of them are just normal local graduates just like many of us here.
Does that make them lower calibre?

And please, do not anyhow criticise Kenneth Jayeratnam based on your personnal perception of his appearance. If you wanna use academics as a yardstick as high calibre, stick to that.
Kenneth is a double first class degree holder in Cambridge… the only one who is able to match him academically in the cabinet if I am not mistaken… is our PM. Does that mean that Kenneth is of ultra high calibre and deserve to be at least a DPM, since he is the top 2 among all Spore politicians?

Suppressed and Repressed Citizen
Dec 3, 2009 16:54

Dear PM Lee,

My family and I do not need 24 hours or even 24 days to cool off.

We have already made up our mind over the last five years. Since you have “forcefully snatched the PM job from Mr Goh Chok Tong, who actually told you that he would only hand over the Premiership to you in 2007. But you could not wait. So you took the liberty to elbow him out in 2004, three years ahead of time. That clearly demonstrated your serious lack of respect for the then PM Goh Chok Tong and the people of Singapore. It also demonstrated your serious lack of patience and wisdom.

We think the one who needs to take a “cooling off” period is you.

We recommend that you take 24 months cooling off from your post as PM. Let your father do the job of Pm for you. It seems to many of us that he is actually running the show anyway. And you are simply a puppet being manipulated by him and your dear wife, the one who lost lots of money going on a buying spree of fallen banks at high prices and then sold them at the deep low, just when prices were about to rise.

Please, we beg you very kindly, take at least 24 months off from being our PM.

Don’t worry about your pay. We are quite sure that your father can afford to pay you from his huge income and savings.

And also please tell your dear wife to take 24 months off too. So both of you can go for a long holiday around the world.

What is life if, with all your power and wealth, you both husband and wife cannot even spend holidays together? It will be good for you relationship and good for your health.

Please think about it seriously. You deserve a good life too. Remember, all works and no play makes Jack a dull boy!

Yours very sincerely,

Your loyal and obedient citizens,
(Loyal because of being suppressed, and Obedient because of being repressed).

lim
Dec 3, 2009 18:05

216) cravat on December 3rd, 2009 4.22 pm

“I think the policy is mostly beneficial to us, although some need a bit tweaking to work more efficiently.”

The 24 hours cooling-off period is beneficial to us, because LHL tells you so? Need a bit of tweaking, how-so, make it 25 hours cooling-off, or 23 hours cooling off?

Grow up, will you…

Yang
Dec 3, 2009 18:37

To #218> Cool Man. I like the way you write. Support you all the way.

Analyse
Dec 4, 2009 1:13

24 hours cooling period sounds very odd indeed, but since it’s already implemented… why not look on the positive side and use this day to reflect on whatever was push forward by all these politicians like brochures from travel agencies and we can analyze and research on which of their policies are the best and visible and will solve our problem. PAP SDP WP whatever P the one who can solve my problem is the good P!

lim
Dec 4, 2009 10:41

@221) Analyse

You said it is good to take time to analyse proposals, but look at what happened since last election.. We got means testing when Khaw said that it won’t happen (for 2 years, I think), so after that we got means testing..

So what can we expect if PAP is returned to power, I can garner a guess..
GST goes up,
Parking charges go up,
All kinds of fees go up.
Ministers salaries go up.
CPF withdrawal age go up.

Sure, road tax went down, but more ERPs sprang up, and longer hours, higher charges..

Look at property tax, gone up twice already, and the best thing is, after the GST offset, I actually still need to pay a few dollars more..

rwkc
Dec 8, 2009 12:24

There is only one action that we all have to take: We need to kick the papies out, pronto!

My Views
Dec 10, 2009 3:08

Cooling period before Polling Day is not a new invention. Apart from Australia and Indonesia, even Thailand has been doing this for many years.

Such a system is fair, democratic and works to the interests of Singaporeans. Election is a serious affair and the voters should be given time to think over their choice of candidates. If you regret buying a product, you can return it within 7 days and seek for a refund. But you can’t do that in a General Election!

If one were to analyse results in the last General Election, it would make good sense for Singapore to adopt the practice of cooling period – or risk a freak election some time in the future. Without wishing to embarrass the voters there, I shall not name the GRC : a team of too young and too inexperienced candidates from an opposition party could convince more than 30% of voters to vote for them! Shocking, wasn’t it? Had they been voted in, what could they do for the residents? And for that foolish mistake, voters of that GRC would have deprived the whole nation of a team of highly competent and experienced leaders! It would be madness to the extreme!

In fact a cooling period of one day is a bit short, three days is probably enough for Singaporeans to think over the consequences of their choices.

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