Comments on: Media reports on Killer Litter case miss the point

By: no law

no law — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:06:15 +0000

anyone keen to share, in a private estate which i stay it is worse. there is no law at all. fist and punches wins the game. better have more sworn brothers. back to the 60′s.

By: Nick Ong

Nick Ong — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:13:03 +0000

nothing new lah.

my block is like disneyland. mickey mouse and his whole family runs all over the place.

when i called town council to get rid of them because it carries disease like rabies. their reply “no choice, very difficult to get rid. we tried our best”

my qn is: is that my problem? this kind of answer also can?

if i tell my boss “no choice, customer very difficult, i tried my best”, you think i will still have my job?

they have to wait until somebody dies from rabies then they will act.

so, tell me, what is new about this ‘flower pot’ throwing case?

my block, since 2006 until now, is still like disneyland. now better, looneytunes also have with sylvester and friends added into it.

By: kai

kai — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:21:49 +0000

good article.
if only this article can reach the eyes of the majority.
sigh.

By: jiangbao

jiangbao — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:03:01 +0000

sign.. it is my upstairs neighbours who are throwing things down… btw FT by my govt defination.

complain.. also like that.. so…

By: lim

lim — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:07:48 +0000

@19) kiasu n kiasi on December 20th, 2009 10.53 pm

>>Don’t know who are the ones speaking in this forum. WAKE UP!
If all residents are considerate, the town will be safe.

Agree with you.. If pap government is also considerate and takes care of singaporeans first, singapore will be a nice place to call home, and worth defending..

So, it all starts from the top, the self-proclaimed elites, please lead by example…

By: angry_one

angry_one — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:04:32 +0000

Many of my friends tell me that they may be flooded by crowds wherever they go, but they have never felt more LONELY. This is the state of sg today, where people lead isolated lives and dare not raise an issue when it’s the right thing to do. In sg, those who make noise about problems are seen as ‘rocking the boat’…. in the US they will be appreciated.

By: Philip

Philip — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:34:08 +0000

You have made a good point. The Town Councils really should have been more pro-active to act against such incidents of killer-litter.

Remember now, we are REQUIRED to pay fees to the town councils. So, they’re really our service-providers. They ought to start acting like we’re the customers, instead of supplicants.

However, just a thought, maybe we citizens ought to become more pro-active too? Like that case at Compassvale? Apparently the neighbours were already aware of the poor woman’s mental condition and what she has been doing. Should they not have done something about it?

THis brings me to the point again that instead of always looking to the government, we ought to do something ourselves sometimes. If you want the culture to change, step one starts with you (or me).

By: Reasonable & Objective

Reasonable & Objective — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:35:12 +0000

A very objective and appropriate article by Gangasudhan. The TC and HDB should have taken proactive actions months ago rather than waiting for some serious incidents to happen.

By: kiasu n kiasi

kiasu n kiasi — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:53:31 +0000

Don’t know who are the ones speaking in this forum. WAKE UP!

If all residents are considerate, the town will be safe. Spend your energy telling off your neighbours to remove their danger items. You guys are just making noise but do not lift a finger to make the situation better. You guys just want to pay less have as many people on the ground to do the work, but continue to contribute to the litter etc… If everyone in this Nation continues to harbour such attitude, the Nation with be in ruin soon.

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By: agongkia

agongkia — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:08:55 +0000

I sympathise with those victims who were injured.
But If the accuse have mental problem,proper medical care should be given to her instead.Why does she turn up to be of unsound mind and landed up in this state?Who knows?She herself is also a victim ,being hurt mentally by society thus causing her to be depress and hurt the innocent .
What do we learn from this incident?Build shelter everywhere?Dun walk in the open area?No.Its time that we learn to show more care and concern to those who need attention.

By: Ryvyan

Ryvyan — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:42:08 +0000

15) popcorn

Or maybe the people running private apartments are better at dealing with complaints.

By: See A Pattern?

See A Pattern? — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:23:25 +0000

6 reports over months yet this incident not prevented.
Does it not remind you of the fall of the little girl months ago when rusted railings were not repaired—after repeated complaints.
Yet we read about 8 months bonus for town councilors.
This is the Mas Salah Syndrome—sleeping on the job, not taking responsibility, drawing by far the highest pay in the world.

By: popcorn

popcorn — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:50:34 +0000

If reports are true as those in the papers, it is disturbing to realise there are so many Singaporeans with mental problems living in HDB flats, throwing litter down and causing death to passersby.
Why no such reports about residents living in private condo apartments. Maybe such economically better residents have access to expensive medical treatment
to control their illnesses, as compared to those in HDB flats.

By: Ganga

Ganga — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:52:53 +0000

3) Just a thought on December 17th, 2009 9.27 pm Can the victim sue the town council for failure to act causing his injury? 4) Just a thought on December 17th, 2009 9.28 pm ...the town council faces no consequence...

It seems you answered your own question, hahaha. Yes, they can be sued, but there should be enough legal cover for the government institution to avoid accepting liability. I also believe if push comes to shove, the buck will be eventually passed to the houseowner/offender in one way or another.

By: TT dubai

TT dubai — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:32:02 +0000

I too am very very disappointed when reading that news couple of days ago. It is really a shame that our PAP government choose to mislead and divert the citizen attention to the women who throw the killer litter, yet minimizing the fact that it it the TOWN COUNCIL who FAILS to perform their duties, despite 6 COMPLAINTS lodged !!!! This is simply outrageous and ridiculous.

The more I read the news nowadays the more I believe Singapore is going down the drain. Our civil/public services is the MOST EXPENSIVE in the wolrd, yet the quality is definitely not in par with their pay. A good example would be our police force. Most of the police nowadays are those youngster in their early 20s, inexperienced, and only do according to their books. Last month I witnessed a fighting case at a coffee shop, where a man hit another elderly man. The elderly man was beaten so badly on his face till his blood are stained all over his body. Police came, took statement, and let the man who hit the elderly go!!! Then the police ask the elderly man to go for checkup, find his witness and file a civil case against the other man. Now then I know that in Singapore you can bully anyone and walk free without being detained.

By: David

David — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:20:12 +0000

The “higher mortal” in charge of Pasir TC is complacence and sleeping on his job. This is no wonder pasir TC can lost millions of taxpayers money without much of responsibility and duty to do things right.

By: Fievel

Fievel — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:57:18 +0000

Not many law firms will dare to take on the town council lah. U need a real ballsy lawyer. Think M Ravi..but he has more impt items on his hands. Come to think of it, S,pore is filled with useless money-grubber lawyers.

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By: kingrant

kingrant — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:25:43 +0000

Don’t forget that our beloved PAP likes to scare us before elections that whoever we choose as our MPs will manage the estates thru the Town Councils, and likes to point to PP and HG as poorly managed estates because we didnt have PAP MPs and Ministers there. See? When they offer goodies like upgrading, the govt tries to ‘siam’ and reneged on this statement in HG and PP when HDB ugrading came along and instaed avoided asking CST and LTK to announce it. When it comes to work, and improving the quality of life at the estates, even a big GRC like that at PR-PT complete with PAP Ministers and ya-ya MPs to boot, look at the result? Are they doing their jobs? Enough said, time to change the slate of MPs. No harm trying Opp. No venture, no gain.