The old fashioned way of trickery & deception is destined to be left exposed by the new internet world.

The existing conditions of the present era are going to democratise a lot of facts & information not previously known to a lot of people.

I salute you for your contribution to this site.

Of course, they will ask you what solution you have and then they steal yours and bcome theirs, and worst later they penalise you . . . . . . politics! dirty business everywhere in the world, dirty dirty. . . . but I still salute our late OTC, really.

Another interesting point to note is that the so-called youth wing leaders are appointed to their positions and not elected. Who appointed them? Your guess is as good as mine!

http://www.pathsnottaken.qut.edu.au/pdfs/Michael_Barr–JBJ.pdf

We also have to remember JBJ’s flaws and his first primarily like CST was their inability to grow a party and movement beyond that of the man who founded and led the party

Locke

I would say that my ideal political party would be positioned somewhat in between the SDP and the WP of today.

Getting crushed by the system is not an option in building a party that seriously challenges the PAP hold on power, However neither is being milder till credibility grows such that viable opposition and numbers is handed to one as a xmas present.

Locke

Now, as he is gone, i wonder who can replace him to keep our dreamz alive?

It would help that the the youth wing of WP realise that their view of JBJ is a misconception through reading the Straits Times and watching TV news.

When JBJ was in parliament, he wasn’t cowed by the presence of LKY. In fact LKY could not answer many of the questions put forward by JBJ. At that time the (TV) media showed some of the parliamentary debate that took place between the two of them. The rest of the PAP MPs were quiet like mice. (Nowadays, the media would not broadcast parliamentary sitting because in most sitting more than 50% of PAP MPs are absent)

At this juncture the opposition in S’pore can’t afford the luxury of in-fighting and bickering over words. They should present themselves as a credible political party against the PAP. Tehy should represent the interests of S’poreans at heart.

They should stop or slow down the manipulation of the populace by the PAP for personal economic gains.

Isn’t it worse now that such lie is furthered “promoted” by the present WP on its former secretary-general, and used as a valid excuse for its silence and inaction?

The impression is a lie propagated by the PAP controlled meia in Singapore. In fact many of our friends and relatives have this impression.

The impression is a lie promoted by the PAP, because the PAP ministers and MP could not handle the tough questions of JBJ. They had to resort to unfair to using spreading of misinformation by the Starits Times, law suit and a judiciary sympathetic to the PAP.

Time has proven JBJ to be correct and that Singaporeans have been taken for a ride by the PAP. They are now worse-off than ever before.

Anyone in opposition politics is to be credited with bravery to better the living conditions and help remove the plight the Singapore people are in because of the PAP policies favouring the rich, powerful and well-connected.

What happens if 75% votes are spoilt?

Let’s question the root cause of PAP’s electoral system that is maintained to “fix” the opposition and “engineer” the election results by a PAP department. Low and Chiam are the facade to show that there is parliamentary democracy in Singapore.

Dont’t tell me the voters in Potong Pasir and Hougang are the only enlightened electorate in the entire Singapore to repeatedly vote for the opposition?

Without an independent elections commission and a free and pluralistic media, let’s not talk about voting for the opposition in a PAP-controlled electoral process. It only helps to perpetuate the continuing stranglehold on power by the PAP, a greedy and corrupt bunch of oppressive and exploitative goons.

If that failed, I believe WP will not see the daylight on the following year election to come.

“The Reform Party was formed on 3rd July 2008. The newest political party in Singapore, it was founded by the late Mr. J. B. Jeyaretnam, the “father” of the Opposition in Singapore. His struggles against authoritarian government are familiar to most, if not all, Singaporeans. Through his sacrifices he showed Singaporeans that democracy and the freedom to choose was their birthright and that government should serve the people, not the other way round.

Mr. J.B. Jeyaretnam sadly passed away on 30th September 2008. However his legacy to the nation, the Reform Party, is strong and committed to carrying on with the work he started.”
–

I remember the old reform party website has more write up on Mr JBJ’s history and some youtube videos. It would be good if a more complete history of the founder of the party be found on the party’s new website, before he is forgotten by the people. His vision for the party was very inspiring, fighting for the people’s rights. The new reform party lacks that fire and anointing.

E.g. If 25% votes are spoilt, 45% voted for PAP, 30% voted for WP/SDP/RP/SDA/etc. PAP announce that they got a solid mandate of 60% (i.e. 45 / (45 + 30) * 100 %), when in actual fact they have less than 50% of the individual voters’ support.

Thus, whether you like WP/SDP/RP/SDA/etc, just cast your vote to them if you want to hit at PAP’s overbearing arrogance. If you cast a spoilt vote, you’re just falling into PAP’s scheme of hoodwinking Singaporeans’ about their overwhelming mandate through the current election rules.

For all the negative light cast upon JBJ and CSJ on the form of their engagement, the substance, the ideals they espouse are those any reasonable citizen would want to have, such as individual freedom, right to hold public servants accountable and promotion of debate.

In contrast, avoiding defamation means playing by the rules of the ruling party in political speech, since what is offending to the ruling party here may well be acceptable political comments elsewhere. Does the PAP Party Whip now extend into the WP as well? If you are willing to censor and ingratiate yourself to achieve political power, what depths would you not plumb when in power and that power is threatened?

As for credibility, what does that mean to you? For me, a credible person is someone who inspires trust. His audiences believe he means and feels whatever he says, and that he has his facts right.

In what glaring way has JBJ and CSJ been shown to be less credible than the present slate of opposition members, or for that matter, some of the PAP members? Did JBJ and CSJ intentionally lie to Singaporeans? Did they knowingly suppressed information? Did they ever misrepresent their motivations for their deeds? Did they ever promise one thing and do the opposite? Did they ever present far-fetched explanations?

WP under JBJ:
Whether we agree with his methods or not, we all knew what JBJ and WP stood for.

WP under Low TK:
We are still trying to find out what they stand for – after 8 years of WP under Low TK.

8 YEARS!

The only three things I know about WP under Low TK is this:

1. He is proud to be compared to the PAP.

2. His organising secretary, who led a WP team in AMK GRC, voted for the PAP.

3. His president of the WP youth wing is more interested in food than anything else and is proud to be “mild”.

Vote WP? What for?

http://yawshinleong.blogspot.com/2008/05/vote-for-other-side.html

“The interesting question perhaps would be, if a WP candidate is to offer himself/ herself for election in the constituency I reside, will I vote for this WP candidate? Partisan considerations will certainly weigh heavily in my considerations. Having said that, ultimately this WP candidate has to convince me that he/ she has what it take to better serve the interests of our country and the constituents to win my vote.”

I pity his WP candidate who not only has to convince Singaporeans at large to vote for him, but he also has to convince his own WP members to vote for him.

LOL!

This is so incredibly funny and sadly dumb at the same time.

Looks to me that the WP and all its members are lost and confused and do not know who they’re fighting.

This is what happens when your secretary general announce proudly to the whole world that he is “proud to be compared to the PAP”.

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS COME TO SPEAK UP.

Maybe they’re all busy having BBQs.