From the blog, yaevlejunce:
Now that I am of age to vote, I am unable to vote for the PAP in the coming election because there is such an urgent need to send across a strong signal through their very thick skulls that there is a problem in the way it’s running this country. I am not a member of the Opposition, and I do not want the Opposition to take over this country, but because there will always be too many sheep in Singapore anyway, we need every vote FOR the Opposition just to manage to produce a dent in the PAP’s smugly expected results. There will always be the apathetic, the boot-lickers, the cowardly, and the ignorant to ensure they win eventually anyway.
The difference we can make, however, is how much it wins by. Perhaps if it loses a GRC or two (and the GRC is a PAP invention), they will shake off their slumber and start ruling Singapore as a Republic, that is, for the public, for the People (rather than for personal interests).
Remember how LKY said he will send in the army if there ever is a “freak election” and the PAP is voted out of Parliament? In every other country, when the people vote out the ruling party, it is called a mandate. It is only in Singapore that such a vote is called a “freak election”. Also, whose Army is it anyway? Is it the Army of the people of Singapore – who have just voted out the PAP? Or is it the Army of the PAP?
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@192) OriginalResonance on December 16th, 2009 10.30 pm
>>Which explains my call for the abolition of national slavery. What’s your point, really?
My point is that if you see saf regulars show more commitment than nsf, then it is EXPECTED, because they have chosen soldering as a career, while nsf don’t have that choice.
As much as I hated ns during my time, I do see some values/benefits in it, so I am not against having ns..
- you do make lifelong friends, buddies who went thro’ thick and thin with you.
- It makes you independant, and able to handle difficulties/setbacks in life..
- It instills discipline in a person.
- In time of hostilities, at least you can still handle a rifile and protect your loved ones..
“You pay to receive the service that the government provides, in their own terms.”
Does this correspond to a normal vendor and end user relationship. That when the end user is unsatisfied with the service, where would be the end users recourse. In the event should you choose not to use the service, do you still have to pay for it?
“You can’t just say that you’re willing to pay an astronomical sum to get the government to destroy your enemies.”
Apparently this statement is true, for you not only have to say it, you have to exact into action. If it were your utopia, yes the doctor would administer it, since the end user can pay for the services. Unless of course in your utopia, there are certain moral principles, ones that you are trying to indoctrinate to young children.
I am sorry if my idea on humanity eschews harm, for it might have hurt you. The belief behind it was based solely that the essence of what it is to be human is the issue of rational thought. It is this ability that we have the freedom of choice, even to choose what is wrong. Note, there was no reference to “sanctify the human”. It was rather a contrast between human and mechanical, or even human and animal.
“Pay good money and you will at least convince people of the prestige that military service brings.”
Then please explain why does paying NSF more, not make him even more committed, since now there are 2 factors that might induce him to be so.
If money is one of the salient indicators of the importance of a job, are you then implying that the cleaner is working at an unimportant station? Or that the NSF is doing an unimportant job? Inversely, a job that is important should be paying high salaries. Why do health care providers get such low pay for an important job? Trash disposal is as important to society as a CEO, why do these people not get paid as much as one?
“Are you advocating that we do not teach babies anything and just leave them to their devices? Was it out of your own volition that you’ve decided to learn English? Or were you born in a society where English is the standard for communication? There’s always a positive slant to pejoratives, if you look hard enough that is.”
Yes I am saying, you are advocating that we do not teach babies anything, since they will not be able to make their own decisions. They are programmed with a mechanical response to any situation. Is it any different from the society now and yours?
I fail to understand how it is possible to view something positive from a pejorative. It is not because I have not tried hard enough, but to be able to appreciate it like you can, I have to assume that in your circle, that it is not derogatory.
Interesting thread and comments. It appears the main concern from people who would like to vote PAP OUT are what will happen next to our country , Singapore. we will be poor and homeless. I think If majority of singaporean possess this negative thoughts, no country leaders like LKY etc will be even more hesitant to pass on country leader power to other opposition parties. what really matters are the motivation of the citizens.
Singaporeans should stay positive and believe that if someday there wil be a “CHANGE” in Signapore leadership – it will be a CHANGE FOR THE BETTER. and we have our say in that. we have our votes.
But first we need to BELIEVE that a better tomorrow will come with change. Believe in the opposition party ability to lead us and our country better than current PAP.
For MNO, like Microsoft that will fire their current CEO and replace a new one, the board of members should strongly believe that the new CEO will lead the company better. One thing which I am 100 percent sure is that no board of members will decide to hire someone WORST than the current CEO and ruin the company.
In this case, we are the board of members to decide and i believe we have to wait for a strong LEADER from opposition party to challenge PAP. A REAL LEADER… not someone that can just point out the mistakes but someone who has a strong vision on how singapore should and will be in the next 5 10 years.
Taking Japan as an example, DPL took over the previous party after nearly 60 years in political power. With 2 strong leaders , Hatoyama and Ozawa, they made it…
Amercians believed in Obama to do the job and make America a better country
Unfortunately, i hate to say this and pls correct me if im wrong ; most Singaporeans are not people that make things happen…….i would say mostly followers – reason why? look back at our education systems and military. We were trained and educated to follow orders … we do have a very rigid system..
“Some people make things happen, some watch things happen, while others wonder what has happened.”
//SingaporePride
What is your point?
//My Views
The excuse about bigger markets have been sung don’t know how many times and is false.
HK didn’t need that.
Malaysia have a much larger population and it is not doing too well.
You cannot make up ingenuity with numbers. IT doesn’t add like that.
What a joke!
//My Views
Please name your highly competent ministers.
I will tell you why he/she isn’t competent.
There are no competent ministers in LHL govt.
No investors will be as dumb as you suggested.
not in a free economy which LHL claims Singapore is.
//My Views
As if it is the ministers who works for the investors for them to receive their returns.
What a joke!
Do/should the investors complain to any investors if they lose monies in Singapore because they mis-invested in some shaky business or mini-bonds for example?
//My Views
As if the elected presidency is a magic wand to save us from all (ok, almost all) the trouble?
Most of us question what work the current president do.
And those of us who question, never thought he is a magic wand.
In fact, most would agree: he is very expensive piece of furniture if he is not a living thing.
//My Views
//What does Singapore have?
Good question!
My answer is our people and the government is underinvesting in singaporeans.
for quite some time already.
The pigs have sowed the seed of Singaporean’s bleak future by under-investing in Singaporeans for some time.
//theforgottongeneration
My views is evidently a paid commenter from the pigs’ camp.
HE is just doing his job.
CST and LTK, go win GRCS in the next election.
Yes, and conquer the single wards, if they actually break up the GRCs.
Make them so shell-shocked, they all get on their feet and start working all over again….this time working for us, not the UN of the world in Singapore..kns.