Comments on: TOC turns 3 – and memories of an elite uncaring face http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/ a community of Singaporeans Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:44:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Elitist Chauvinist Pig « It's all about Amelioration http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-2/#comment-140545 The Elitist Chauvinist Pig « It's all about Amelioration Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:21:36 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-140545 [...] really put things into perspective does ‘nt  it? And who would forget the infamous blogger  Wee Shu Min, daughter of an MP, labelling a struggling worried Singaporean concern about his job security as [...] [...] really put things into perspective does ‘nt  it? And who would forget the infamous blogger  Wee Shu Min, daughter of an MP, labelling a struggling worried Singaporean concern about his job security as [...]

]]> By: The Elitist Chauvinist Pig « It's all about Amelioration http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-2/#comment-140540 The Elitist Chauvinist Pig « It's all about Amelioration Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:01:24 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-140540 [...] really put things into perspective does ‘nt ? And who would forget the infamous blogger  Wee Shu Min, daughter of an MP, labelling a struggling worried Singaporean concern about his job security as [...] [...] really put things into perspective does ‘nt ? And who would forget the infamous blogger  Wee Shu Min, daughter of an MP, labelling a struggling worried Singaporean concern about his job security as [...]

]]> By: Budamaxx1952 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-2/#comment-120309 Budamaxx1952 Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:28:14 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-120309 Congrats TOC. Keep up the good work. God bless all of you. Congrats TOC. Keep up the good work. God bless all of you.

]]> By: Enigmatic http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-2/#comment-119632 Enigmatic Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:18:29 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-119632 She does not get to see herself in the mirror whenever she does so : since mirror only mirrors the truthful image - besides , she presented herself as another underserving shameless well -off scholarship recipient grabbing something which is meant for the less well off. Guess, she will not go far in life - Heaven ain't going to tolerate her haughty and megalomaniac attitude . She does not get to see herself in the mirror whenever she does so : since mirror only mirrors the truthful image – besides , she presented herself as another underserving shameless well -off scholarship recipient grabbing something which is meant for the less well off.

Guess, she will not go far in life – Heaven ain’t going to tolerate her haughty and megalomaniac attitude .

]]> By: WeiHan http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-119439 WeiHan Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:11:12 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-119439 Just want to remind people that our elitist government has in the past, for example, close down private university such as Nanyang University which embodies contibutions from commoners and chinese speaking philantropists. They are simply a jeolous lot that want to claim monopoly to every progress that our country has made. Then, they discriminate against the chinese speaking mass which is no lack of excellent brains too. That is why our top civil servants and top positions in government-linked organisations and companies are all filled with English-speaking elites who have unfairly benefited from the government discriminative policies and attitude. The other day I heard some irony comments by LKY. He blamed chinese teachers for making chinese lessons boring and that aleniated many english background people. What a lame excuse. The era of the domination of anglo-saxon culture in the world is slowly coming to an end. These people starts to worry and never put blame on themselves for incalcating wrong attitudes in their children but only put blames on the teachers. His son quickly came out to pay tributes to the chinese teachers but then make more blunders to sharp eyes. His suggestions that chinese lesson s should be taught in English is simply double standard. I am in principle not against the idea but should chinese teachers then receive a higher pay since they will need to well-verse in both language in order to teach chinese. Why isn't the same is required of English teachers in the past? Now, I see. Our top elites are sewing costumes for the angmos while China and India are quickly rising...and they still don't have a clue but only know how to pay lip service to chinese language. Just want to remind people that our elitist government has in the past, for example, close down private university such as Nanyang University which embodies contibutions from commoners and chinese speaking philantropists. They are simply a jeolous lot that want to claim monopoly to every progress that our country has made. Then, they discriminate against the chinese speaking mass which is no lack of excellent brains too. That is why our top civil servants and top positions in government-linked organisations and companies are all filled with English-speaking elites who have unfairly benefited from the government discriminative policies and attitude.

The other day I heard some irony comments by LKY. He blamed chinese teachers for making chinese lessons boring and that aleniated many english background people. What a lame excuse. The era of the domination of anglo-saxon culture in the world is slowly coming to an end. These people starts to worry and never put blame on themselves for incalcating wrong attitudes in their children but only put blames on the teachers. His son quickly came out to pay tributes to the chinese teachers but then make more blunders to sharp eyes. His suggestions that chinese lesson s should be taught in English is simply double standard. I am in principle not against the idea but should chinese teachers then receive a higher pay since they will need to well-verse in both language in order to teach chinese. Why isn’t the same is required of English teachers in the past?

Now, I see. Our top elites are sewing costumes for the angmos while China and India are quickly rising…and they still don’t have a clue but only know how to pay lip service to chinese language.

]]> By: L http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-119375 L Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:38:18 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-119375 Agreed with RW. What's more importance is the attitude and contributions of those to the society regardless of where they are from... Whether one deem to be an elite or not, just remember that whatever you have can be taken away in an instant, your wealth, health, loved ones… Nothing is as almighty as the nature and the universe… Everything is changing, the world is changing… nothing is permanent and forever… What’s left is the consciousness… Selfless, compassionate and humble people will always be remembered in the heart and mind of many whom they have touched… Selfish, proud and arrogant tyranny will be cursed by many whom they have angered… Touched your conscience and live… Agreed with RW. What’s more importance is the attitude and contributions of those to the society regardless of where they are from…

Whether one deem to be an elite or not, just remember that whatever you have can be taken away in an instant, your wealth, health, loved ones…

Nothing is as almighty as the nature and the universe…

Everything is changing, the world is changing… nothing is permanent and forever…

What’s left is the consciousness…

Selfless, compassionate and humble people will always be remembered in the heart and mind of many whom they have touched…

Selfish, proud and arrogant tyranny will be cursed by many whom they have angered…

Touched your conscience and live…

]]> By: walau http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-119145 walau Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:21:03 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-119145 Congratulaions TOC. I hope one day, a bright young thing will walk into a PSC interview and be able to proudly declare that her/his opinions, thoughts, sentiments etc have somehow been shaped positively by the writings @TOC, and all the brothers, sisters, uncles & aunties who have contributed to the discussions here. Congratulaions TOC. I hope one day, a bright young thing will walk into a PSC interview and be able to proudly declare that her/his opinions, thoughts, sentiments etc have somehow been shaped positively by the writings @TOC, and all the brothers, sisters, uncles & aunties who have contributed to the discussions here.

]]> By: RW http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-119122 RW Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:33:13 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-119122 Congrats TOC for turning 3. To many more years to come! On a seperate note, i agree with one of the previous commenters that the definition of elite should be attitude, rather than sch or occupation. What if someone like KJ comes into office? Sure, he will be a 'elite' since he holds public office, went to famous uk university, becomes an economist and probably earns much much more than the average singaporean. I may be wrong, but i dun think anyone here will pour 'elite' scorn upon him. also, there are many philanthropists in singapore who have done much good. just see the foundations such as lien foundation, lee foundation (not affiliated to lky) etc. these are 'elites' who have done much for the common people. i think it is disingenuous to classify Singapore into elite versus commoner and create a class divide like that. It automatically means we must be against all political or business leaders, regardless of their attitudes or contribution to society. "elite, uncaring face" i think the author is too fixated with the word 'elite'. in my opinion, what really matters is 'caring' or 'uncaring'. Congrats TOC for turning 3. To many more years to come!

On a seperate note, i agree with one of the previous commenters that the definition of elite should be attitude, rather than sch or occupation.

What if someone like KJ comes into office? Sure, he will be a ‘elite’ since he holds public office, went to famous uk university, becomes an economist and probably earns much much more than the average singaporean. I may be wrong, but i dun think anyone here will pour ‘elite’ scorn upon him.

also, there are many philanthropists in singapore who have done much good. just see the foundations such as lien foundation, lee foundation (not affiliated to lky) etc. these are ‘elites’ who have done much for the common people.

i think it is disingenuous to classify Singapore into elite versus commoner and create a class divide like that. It automatically means we must be against all political or business leaders, regardless of their attitudes or contribution to society.

“elite, uncaring face”
i think the author is too fixated with the word ‘elite’.
in my opinion, what really matters is ‘caring’ or ‘uncaring’.

]]> By: recent reader http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118983 recent reader Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:01:56 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118983 well done. thanks for providing a voice against the uncaring gov. all the best. well done.
thanks for providing a voice against the uncaring gov.
all the best.

]]> By: alex tan http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118823 alex tan Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:48:48 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118823 congratulations to TOC's success. Derek's post might be 3 years old too but its still very relevant today. the only difference is we are nearer to the day we Singaporeans can make the choice of making the PAP pay. GE is coming! Pay-And-Pay's payback time! vote for Change, vote the PAP out congratulations to TOC’s success.
Derek’s post might be 3 years old too but its still very relevant today. the only difference is we are nearer to the day we Singaporeans can make the choice of making the PAP pay.

GE is coming! Pay-And-Pay’s payback time!

vote for Change, vote the PAP out

]]> By: THNG http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118814 THNG Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:42:13 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118814 Folks, Mr Wee Siew Kim is also a non-executive Director of SBS Transit Ltd since 2003. He is also the Chairman of the Company’s Audit Committee and member of the Service Quality Committee. Multi talented people, must be cherish. Such ability is hard to come by. Folks,
Mr Wee Siew Kim is also a non-executive Director of SBS Transit Ltd since 2003. He is also the Chairman of the Company’s Audit Committee and member of the Service Quality Committee. Multi talented people, must be cherish. Such ability is hard to come by.

]]> By: XP http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118743 XP Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:42:06 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118743 i think we can agree on one point here - and that is the fact that what ms wee expressed, no mere cautionary words or opinion, is not the thinking of hers alone, but that of her family. for it was the family - her family - who put such ideas into her. therefore, if we were to attribute the blame, then it will become unbecoming of us to do so on her and her alone. i think we can agree on one point here – and that is the fact that what ms wee expressed, no mere cautionary words or opinion, is not the thinking of hers alone, but that of her family.

for it was the family – her family – who put such ideas into her.

therefore, if we were to attribute the blame, then it will become unbecoming of us to do so on her and her alone.

]]> By: Regular Reader of TOC http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118734 Regular Reader of TOC Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:05:04 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118734 There is obviously something wrong with the scholarship selection committee, who gave the "Elite Uncaring Face" the scholarship to do "Humanities". What a blunder! How can an uncaring inhuman child of a PAP MP, who himself also shows an indifferent attitude towards the commoners, be doing humanities? Is she going to work as a social worker after her graduation? If so, I bet she would be kick in the face by many of us. We definitely do not want nor even entertain such a snobbish, arrogant, stuck-up, elitist elite in our midst. She is a product of the PAP system. Therefore, PAP will have to go, because it is no more the PAP we once knew to be. =============== On a different, TOC congratulations for making it to three years. I really enjoy reading all the articles published here, including the exiting comments by the other readers. Well done, TOC. Keep up the good works! One of your Many Readers. There is obviously something wrong with the scholarship selection committee, who gave the “Elite Uncaring Face” the scholarship to do “Humanities”. What a blunder!

How can an uncaring inhuman child of a PAP MP, who himself also shows an indifferent attitude towards the commoners, be doing humanities?

Is she going to work as a social worker after her graduation? If so, I bet she would be kick in the face by many of us. We definitely do not want nor even entertain such a snobbish, arrogant, stuck-up, elitist elite in our midst. She is a product of the PAP system. Therefore, PAP will have to go, because it is no more the PAP we once knew to be.

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On a different, TOC congratulations for making it to three years. I really enjoy reading all the articles published here, including the exiting comments by the other readers. Well done, TOC. Keep up the good works!

One of your Many Readers.

]]> By: People from Raffles suck big time! http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118674 People from Raffles suck big time! Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:22:22 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118674 Agree with comments from MacArthur Park in no.39 The people from the Raffles schools are some of the biggest arogant donkeys in the world. Got money big deal is it? Got guts come out of your fathers pants lah! Raffles poeple are the suckiest people Agree with comments from MacArthur Park in no.39

The people from the Raffles schools are some of the biggest arogant donkeys in the world. Got money big deal is it? Got guts come out of your fathers pants lah! Raffles poeple are the suckiest people

]]> By: prettyplace http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118642 prettyplace Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:16:44 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118642 Fathers money made her get the best tuition and what else...you go to the best school....with dads connection what else to expect..... But what i don't get is the humanities scholarship.....which idiot tested her and interviewed her to get this award...sounds like a joke.... A person with such conscience .....would never be able to step into my house....what more of giving her an award and scholarship..... What meritocracy.....what was the test...how was it approved.....who did the test (i did not know she was a HUMANITIES scholar.) What a shame...the scholarship should rightfully be taken back....period. Fathers money made her get the best tuition and what else…you go to the best school….with dads connection what else to expect…..

But what i don’t get is the humanities scholarship…..which idiot tested her and interviewed her to get this award…sounds like a joke….

A person with such conscience …..would never be able to step into my house….what more of giving her an award and scholarship…..

What meritocracy…..what was the test…how was it approved…..who did the test
(i did not know she was a HUMANITIES scholar.)
What a shame…the scholarship should rightfully be taken back….period.

]]> By: x-man http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118639 x-man Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:07:19 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118639 to 21 to 21) winstoncheng, absolutely agree with you. tragic ending also awaits poor elderly folks with the likes of Wee Shu Min and co. governing Spore. to kingrant, I believe many will be in the queue too....... to MacArthur Park, thanks for posting the video..... established breeding ground for future PAP politicians ? to 21

to 21) winstoncheng,
absolutely agree with you.
tragic ending also awaits poor elderly folks with the likes of Wee Shu Min and co. governing Spore.

to kingrant, I believe many will be in the queue too…….

to MacArthur Park, thanks for posting the video….. established breeding ground for future PAP politicians ?

]]> By: MacArthur Park http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118609 MacArthur Park Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:28:05 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118609 <i> kingrant on December 2nd, 2009 10.44 am Wee Shu Min better not fail in life. Retribution is sweet. I’ll kick her when she’s down. </i> Don't worry, karma is a beach. And I believe in karma <i> MP Wee shld be voted out in the next GE. If he still hides in a GRC (as cowards unfailingly do), we shld vote out the whole of his team too. </i> Don't be surprised if he is asked to 'make way' for new blood.... kingrant on December 2nd, 2009 10.44 am

Wee Shu Min better not fail in life. Retribution is sweet. I’ll kick her when she’s down.

Don’t worry, karma is a beach. And I believe in karma

MP Wee shld be voted out in the next GE. If he still hides in a GRC (as cowards unfailingly do), we shld vote out the whole of his team too.

Don’t be surprised if he is asked to ‘make way’ for new blood….

]]> By: Dumb and dumber http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118607 Dumb and dumber Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:21:03 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118607 I thank Ms Wee Shu-Min for waking me up from my slumber. I thank Ms Wee Shu-Min for waking me up from my slumber.

]]> By: kingrant http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118593 kingrant Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:44:12 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118593 Wee Shu Min better not fail in life. Retribution is sweet. I'll kick her when she's down. MP Wee shld be voted out in the next GE. If he still hides in a GRC (as cowards unfailingly do), we shld vote out the whole of his team too. Wee Shu Min better not fail in life. Retribution is sweet. I’ll kick her when she’s down. MP Wee shld be voted out in the next GE. If he still hides in a GRC (as cowards unfailingly do), we shld vote out the whole of his team too.

]]> By: Agents Provocateur http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/12/toc-turns-3-and-memories-of-an-elite-uncaring-face/comment-page-1/#comment-118580 Agents Provocateur Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:11:29 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=16860#comment-118580 Three more years! Cheers TOC. Three more years!

Cheers TOC.

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