See my reply in “High Court grants rare stay of execution.” Did Malaysia not help detain Mas Selamat (OUTSIDE Spore)? Did we have to send soldiers into Malaysia? Heard of Interpol? How did that work?

Anyway I should not even need to go into this. If the Spore autorities cannot go after the big boys, don’t fry the little ones! What a lousy excuse to hang the runners.

Another point of contention – if the runners deserve the ultimate punishment, how then should the bosses be punished? Double or tripple hanging?

Please write your comments in English.

No. 15 — you have some temerity to come here and write in Mandarin.

TOC what is going on? Accepting posts in all sorts of languages.
Want me to give my two cents worth in Korean.

What a joke.

Editor Note: I think we should not discount someone’s opinion just because of their choice of language and we should allow the benefit of doubt. As I have no idea what the comment says, would aprpeciate if someone could translate, thanks. Ganga

” 35) Pragmatic Approach To Unjust Murderous Law on December 7th, 2009 8.37 am

It’s actually quite pathetic if you have to invoke our dislike of the old man as he is now, just to get your point across… ”

You may have disliked the old man, but why should you assume that Poster # 35 also dislike the old man? He was merely stating the facts about the old man as he is now.

Why should you assume that just because you dislike the old man, every other people who criticise him also dislike him? What about a father or mother criticising his/her own children? Is it due to dislike of the person? What about an elder brother criticising his younger brother, or vice versa? Is it due to dislike or hatred on that person? Come on, don’t be so narrow minded!

The only thing pathetic is that you have been asking for facts, and when someone else merely stated the facts, you tried to put him down, just to get your own points/views across!

Where are your facts to substantiate that there was a dislike?

Are you a clairvoyant psychiatrist or some super human being? If you are, you won’t be here, at TOC, spouting your twisted arguments!

AWESOME idea.

….but you still haven’t solved the problem of jurisdiction. What are your ideas on navigating this part of the issue?

It’s actually quite pathetic if you have to invoke our dislike of the old man as he is now, just to get your point across…

“So let’s send a message to the syndicates so they can pass it down to their young teenage recruits. That they won’t get capital punishment if they get caught.”

So, if the authorities go after the syndicates when their young teenage recruit gets caught, what message do you think we send?

If this is done, you will get syndicates turning down teenage recruits.

Go after the bosses. If they can do this once, just for once – a trafficker leads police to hang a boss, you will get the bosses thinking thrice of using anybody.

Yong is certainly a scapegoat for both the bosses and the police/prosecutor, not inspite of his simple and poor background but because of it. They BOTH take advantage to put such people down. Its a horrible world we live in.

There are people here who insist that take away death penalty and drug trade will flourish in SG. If it is so effective and good method, why not apply it to all sorts of crimes? If so simple, why need talents to be in Govt?

It is difficult because there are constraints like in all things. A good system and method does not ignore the constraints but will seek to address the problem (in this case stemming drugs) within the boundaries or we call it human rules.

It is WRONG to execute this particular criminal, Yong, period. There is no way this can be right.

1. law is different in different countries.
2. law is set by different groups of people. In each country, a group of people determines the law.

law is …. ?

However, I think that this unjust murderous law was enacted during the then PM Lee Kuan Yew’s time, in 1975. And we are aware that he had openly told all of us that he would prefer people to fear him instead of loving him (or words to that effect). So, perhaps this particular law is a by-product and part of his overall strategy or intention to create fear in all of us?

Therefore, I conclude that if at all this unjust murderous law were to be changed or amended, we have to wait for Lee Kuan Yew to die first. So, please be patient. It won’t be long. His time is about to end soon. He is already 86. How long more can he live?

Alternatively, perhaps, instead of pleading for this young man, Yong Vui Kong, to be spared of his life, may be it would be wiser for us to put in our efforts to concertedly, persistently and religiously pray for the creator/initiator of this unjust murderous law to meet his own end first?

Applying pragmatism on the advocate of pragmatism, agree or disagree?

Care to write to Obama and Yukio Hatoyama to express your indignation as well?

If the Singaporean Legal system were fair, these type of convictions would be given a second chance in life, unfortunately that is still a dream to come true, to live under a proper “fair Singaporean legal system”, while corruption and inhumane mentality remains within the government, we just have to keep screaming.

Yong Vui Kong is prepared for his next life, the Singapore Legals have dictated a life sentence on the family of Kong, once again Singaporean Death Row is on the spotlight, we need the international media to bring it up front, follow your contacts if you can please.

By executing the drug mule, Singapore is allowing the drug lords to keep doing business and “improving” Singapore’s economy, how much do drugs pay in?… those figures are available to Lee eyes only, what the public ignores it won’t hurt them.

YOu hit the nail on the head. THere is no doubt the existence of double standards when justice is meted out. Your examples are good.

Can I remind the rest of us about the case when Indonesian maids kill their employer? Mitigating circumstances like the mental health of the maid was the reason why she was not hung. Are authorities afraid of backlash from the INdon govt the same way the Philippines protested against the hanging of Flor Contemplacion?

Don’t forget that Michal Fay ( the American who vandalised a few years ago) got fewer strokes of the cane when Clinton pleaded on his behalf. There are quite a few more cases if you care to recall.

Where is the equality in all these?

No one is denying the fact that he has committed a crime. We are just pointing out the fact that there can be many other possible punishments for his crime that he committed out of naivety.

Giving him a second chance does not mean wiping away his criminal record or let him go off like this. No, I don’t think that is what we are all trying to achieve here.

Fact is, those who have expressed their concerns about his sentence are trying to express that he should be given a chance to live and repent.

Think about it: what is to be achieve if you send him to the gallows? He won’t be able to show the world that someone who commits such a ‘serious’ crime can show remorse and repent. Are we so cold hearted that we have to die die send people to the gallows without pondering about possibilities of other forms of punishment? Also, why are we denying the death row inmates their chances to see, hold and hug their family members in the absence of the glass panel? I call this ‘punishment’ a torture.

So… our authorities are allowed to commit state murder and torture using taxpayers’ money? Hmm… something to ponder about eh.