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		<title>By: hide</title>
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		<dc:creator>hide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if foreign talent is soooo great...then i would rather have foreigners run the country in place of the current ruling party...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if foreign talent is soooo great&#8230;then i would rather have foreigners run the country in place of the current ruling party&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NoFuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoFuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ruling party is not interested to help us, they are very good actors. Don&#039;t trust them as they wayang only.If they have are real then let debate live about this issues and see what their excuses will be. We need help immediately not in 24 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ruling party is not interested to help us, they are very good actors. Don&#8217;t trust them as they wayang only.If they have are real then let debate live about this issues and see what their excuses will be. We need help immediately not in 24 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Come on, Dr Vivian Balakrishnan, what&#8217;s the real story? &#171; Want some tau huay?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Come on, Dr Vivian Balakrishnan, what&#8217;s the real story? &#171; Want some tau huay?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Till news channel Al Jazeera reported on the homelessness situation in Singapore, highlighted by The Online Citizen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Till news channel Al Jazeera reported on the homelessness situation in Singapore, highlighted by The Online Citizen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No lack of sophistry from the government concerning the homeless &#124; Sgpolitics.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>No lack of sophistry from the government concerning the homeless &#124; Sgpolitics.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of thick bureaucracy and screening before they even have a chance of obtaining assistance. (See here and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of thick bureaucracy and screening before they even have a chance of obtaining assistance. (See here and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: speechless</title>
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		<dc:creator>speechless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 05:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that this article is not showing the full picture, actually, it is exceedingly biased. I&#039;m not supporting PAP government completely since HDB prices are rising, that&#039;s for sure. But these homeless people aren&#039;t completely faultless. More research should be done on why they ended up homeless in the first place. If the case is really as reported in the news, where some people sell their houses and spent the money, leaving their families homeless, it is unfair to make all singaporeans bail them out each time. Providing help for them everytime they end up homeless should not be the priority, since that will just lead to a unwise dependency on the state&#039;s welfare. The average singaporean is already struggling with their own house installment payments, why are there people pushing to help those who sells their property for fast cash? Even if the government is to blame, what can they do? Build HDB in 1 day to cater to those who sold away their previous one? Provide free housing at the expense of those who pay taxes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that this article is not showing the full picture, actually, it is exceedingly biased. I&#8217;m not supporting PAP government completely since HDB prices are rising, that&#8217;s for sure. But these homeless people aren&#8217;t completely faultless. More research should be done on why they ended up homeless in the first place. If the case is really as reported in the news, where some people sell their houses and spent the money, leaving their families homeless, it is unfair to make all singaporeans bail them out each time. Providing help for them everytime they end up homeless should not be the priority, since that will just lead to a unwise dependency on the state&#8217;s welfare. The average singaporean is already struggling with their own house installment payments, why are there people pushing to help those who sells their property for fast cash? Even if the government is to blame, what can they do? Build HDB in 1 day to cater to those who sold away their previous one? Provide free housing at the expense of those who pay taxes?</p>
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		<title>By: fpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come the turncoat Bala didn&#039;t report on this?

Remember the incident where they found out that one of the cases put up by the websites is not exactly true, he made a statement.

Now, he dare not make any statements?

Why?

It goes to show he is &quot;caught&quot; by surprise again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come the turncoat Bala didn&#8217;t report on this?</p>
<p>Remember the incident where they found out that one of the cases put up by the websites is not exactly true, he made a statement.</p>
<p>Now, he dare not make any statements?</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>It goes to show he is &#8220;caught&#8221; by surprise again.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 04</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 04:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Singapore Alternatives: HDB Mortgage Slaves - TOC: Homeless in the parks – a symptom of flawed housing policies? - TOC: Raiding the homeless – in the middle of the night - TOC Facebook: 2-year application [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Singapore Alternatives: HDB Mortgage Slaves &#8211; TOC: Homeless in the parks – a symptom of flawed housing policies? &#8211; TOC: Raiding the homeless – in the middle of the night &#8211; TOC Facebook: 2-year application [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zefly (aka Joshua Chiang)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zefly (aka Joshua Chiang)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stay updated on homeless issues by joining this group-

http://www.facebook.com/#/group.php?gid=243022663629&amp;ref=ts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stay updated on homeless issues by joining this group-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/#/group.php?gid=243022663629&#038;ref=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/#/group.php?gid=243022663629&#038;ref=ts</a></p>
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		<title>By: small hum</title>
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		<dc:creator>small hum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its cheaper to sleep in tents than having to pay even a small rent to HDB and the utilities bill. 

I have also seen old man and women locked up exercising in the upper most floor of Geylang Polyclinic. They do look mentally ill and might be a public nuisance. While it does make the streets nicer, i can&#039;t help feeling we are losing the natural breaks in life which tell us to slow down and take a second look at the society of Singapore itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its cheaper to sleep in tents than having to pay even a small rent to HDB and the utilities bill. </p>
<p>I have also seen old man and women locked up exercising in the upper most floor of Geylang Polyclinic. They do look mentally ill and might be a public nuisance. While it does make the streets nicer, i can&#8217;t help feeling we are losing the natural breaks in life which tell us to slow down and take a second look at the society of Singapore itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Goh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terence Goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope HOTA staff are not waiting nearby Sembawang Park for one of the homeless to drop dead due to living stress, and harvest their organs. 

Sounds far fetched? I don&#039;t know. Anything can happen in Singapore as long as money is involved, there is no morality anymore.

BTW, I saw some pictures of the Toa Payoh flats rented out to CFL (cheap foreign labour). They have been spruced up and looks even nicer than our flats. Maybe PAP can rename itself to FPAP? Foreign People Action Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope HOTA staff are not waiting nearby Sembawang Park for one of the homeless to drop dead due to living stress, and harvest their organs. </p>
<p>Sounds far fetched? I don&#8217;t know. Anything can happen in Singapore as long as money is involved, there is no morality anymore.</p>
<p>BTW, I saw some pictures of the Toa Payoh flats rented out to CFL (cheap foreign labour). They have been spruced up and looks even nicer than our flats. Maybe PAP can rename itself to FPAP? Foreign People Action Party.</p>
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		<title>By: despair sporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>despair sporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this homeless news was real. I think this present govt has failed terribly.

And it seem very norm to hear or read  govt comments about: 
1: Spore kids less striving...
2: Dont blame foreigners for jacking up the house price
3: Spore is not a nation yet

I find the above rather worrying and disturb for not whether the comment deem to be truth but our leader kept slamming its home ground. For whatever reason, i personally feel for my point 1, they are getting the brightest from other country and usually having the age gap advantages. This doesnt conclude our kids are not striving enough and in many instances, we have some are equally well. For point 2, they have not realise that it home grown males were never place in a same level fields as PR in terms of national service obligation and that 2-3 yrs lost of income can translate a big different for the intial home affordability.
3: It seem that our forefather or at least my forefather has wasted their time here

Sigh...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this homeless news was real. I think this present govt has failed terribly.</p>
<p>And it seem very norm to hear or read  govt comments about:<br />
1: Spore kids less striving&#8230;<br />
2: Dont blame foreigners for jacking up the house price<br />
3: Spore is not a nation yet</p>
<p>I find the above rather worrying and disturb for not whether the comment deem to be truth but our leader kept slamming its home ground. For whatever reason, i personally feel for my point 1, they are getting the brightest from other country and usually having the age gap advantages. This doesnt conclude our kids are not striving enough and in many instances, we have some are equally well. For point 2, they have not realise that it home grown males were never place in a same level fields as PR in terms of national service obligation and that 2-3 yrs lost of income can translate a big different for the intial home affordability.<br />
3: It seem that our forefather or at least my forefather has wasted their time here</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HDB for foreigners,  Angsana for Singaporeans.  Did I hear wrongly from Prime Minister that Singaporeans will always be given priority?  Talk is cheap, action speak louder than words as to how contradictory PAP was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HDB for foreigners,  Angsana for Singaporeans.  Did I hear wrongly from Prime Minister that Singaporeans will always be given priority?  Talk is cheap, action speak louder than words as to how contradictory PAP was.</p>
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		<title>By: Cv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the IRs&#039;re supposed to create jobs for singaporeans? Then how is it that foreign workers from the IRs can take up as much as two HDB blocks worth of residence? 

Oh and I do wonder what&#039;s going in in the minds of the authorities. I mean, these people have NOWHERE to go! It&#039;s not like they enjoy camping out at some &quot;ulu&quot; park? It&#039;s irresponsible of them to drive these peeps away without first establishing some form of temporary housing that actually befits humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the IRs&#8217;re supposed to create jobs for singaporeans? Then how is it that foreign workers from the IRs can take up as much as two HDB blocks worth of residence? </p>
<p>Oh and I do wonder what&#8217;s going in in the minds of the authorities. I mean, these people have NOWHERE to go! It&#8217;s not like they enjoy camping out at some &#8220;ulu&#8221; park? It&#8217;s irresponsible of them to drive these peeps away without first establishing some form of temporary housing that actually befits humans.</p>
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		<title>By: sweeney 38</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweeney 38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only two blocks of flat at Toa Payoh, rented out to foreign workers.
What about, maybe more hdb flats at Jalan Boon Lay,  Blk 76 onwards,
 also rented out to foreigners.

T.O.C. You may want to check it out!............. No wonder so many homeless 
people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only two blocks of flat at Toa Payoh, rented out to foreign workers.<br />
What about, maybe more hdb flats at Jalan Boon Lay,  Blk 76 onwards,<br />
 also rented out to foreigners.</p>
<p>T.O.C. You may want to check it out!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. No wonder so many homeless<br />
people.</p>
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		<title>By: Yamasam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yamasam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were they really there to help ?

Or were they there to get rid of these campers as it is an embarrassment for the PAP govt who claimed that they are no homeless people in Singapore ?

If they are really there to help, why were these campers issued summons ?  If they can&#039;t even afford to put a roof over their head, issuing summons is definitely not in anyway helping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were they really there to help ?</p>
<p>Or were they there to get rid of these campers as it is an embarrassment for the PAP govt who claimed that they are no homeless people in Singapore ?</p>
<p>If they are really there to help, why were these campers issued summons ?  If they can&#8217;t even afford to put a roof over their head, issuing summons is definitely not in anyway helping.</p>
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		<title>By: ACACIA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACACIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not only the flawed housing policies but the investment policies of the GIC, Temasek, FT policies etc, just to name a few. The talk these days is, &quot;you&#039;re lucky if you can service  your housing loan!&quot; This homeless thing going to blow up in their face, they know it as they cannot contain something which was pushed under the carpet, the buldge is too big now!! Is the economy going to pick by leaps and bounds, don&#039;t think so. 
I wonder if some of these homeless are called for their reservist, where are they going to get their uniforms?!! Perhaps if we had kampongs, they would have a place to stay. There are still many government buildings around, these  can be  turned to temporary shelters, why don&#039;t they look into in. Then there will be a new term, &quot;refugees in their own country!&quot;  Truly I cannot imagine the government has allowed the plight of our citizen to come to this state of affairs.Really unacceptable and sorry state of affairs for our first  world country!.  We must send them a clear message come voting time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not only the flawed housing policies but the investment policies of the GIC, Temasek, FT policies etc, just to name a few. The talk these days is, &#8220;you&#8217;re lucky if you can service  your housing loan!&#8221; This homeless thing going to blow up in their face, they know it as they cannot contain something which was pushed under the carpet, the buldge is too big now!! Is the economy going to pick by leaps and bounds, don&#8217;t think so.<br />
I wonder if some of these homeless are called for their reservist, where are they going to get their uniforms?!! Perhaps if we had kampongs, they would have a place to stay. There are still many government buildings around, these  can be  turned to temporary shelters, why don&#8217;t they look into in. Then there will be a new term, &#8220;refugees in their own country!&#8221;  Truly I cannot imagine the government has allowed the plight of our citizen to come to this state of affairs.Really unacceptable and sorry state of affairs for our first  world country!.  We must send them a clear message come voting time.</p>
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