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		<title>By: Nigeria Politics</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127659</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigeria Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really  cool men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really  cool men.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 04</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127434</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 03:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Growing your tree of prosperity: Love and politics - Singapore style! [Thanks Wai Chung] - TOC: SFD will take “bearings from the pledge” - TOC: Cooling-off to remember PAP’s success - The Temasek Review: Debunking the three fallacies [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Growing your tree of prosperity: Love and politics &#8211; Singapore style! [Thanks Wai Chung] &#8211; TOC: SFD will take “bearings from the pledge” &#8211; TOC: Cooling-off to remember PAP’s success &#8211; The Temasek Review: Debunking the three fallacies [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neutral Observer</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127355</link>
		<dc:creator>Neutral Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before even started, the SfD seems to be digging its own grave by limiting its own scope of cooperation and sphere of recruitment for membership.

This will be another white elephant, I strongly believe, irrespective of whether Seelan or any of its protem committee members staying positive or not.

They have driven nails half way into the &quot;coffin&quot; already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before even started, the SfD seems to be digging its own grave by limiting its own scope of cooperation and sphere of recruitment for membership.</p>
<p>This will be another white elephant, I strongly believe, irrespective of whether Seelan or any of its protem committee members staying positive or not.</p>
<p>They have driven nails half way into the &#8220;coffin&#8221; already!</p>
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		<title>By: The Teeside Story</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127302</link>
		<dc:creator>The Teeside Story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seelan, I nearly gagged when I heard you proclaiming, very publicly, that you  &quot;take all public feedback in a positively&quot;.  When one goes through some of your ad hominem comments at the SDP website, one would have thought it is a different person altogether.  Anyway, let me be more positive and assume that those are words of a reformed person.

BTW, we see JG here rubbing shoulders cosily with some SDP reps.  We will take JG&#039;s words that SFD will not evolve into a political party, but calling it an SDP-affiliate is not misplaced. This is especially since we heard that JG sent in his resignation from WP just recently and we know how &quot;unkaki&quot; WP and SDP are. Also, with this affiliation (with SDP), SFD&#039;s ability to collaborate with other opposition parties is very much limited since that leaves out the two &quot;big&quot; parties (WP and SPP).  

T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seelan, I nearly gagged when I heard you proclaiming, very publicly, that you  &#8220;take all public feedback in a positively&#8221;.  When one goes through some of your ad hominem comments at the SDP website, one would have thought it is a different person altogether.  Anyway, let me be more positive and assume that those are words of a reformed person.</p>
<p>BTW, we see JG here rubbing shoulders cosily with some SDP reps.  We will take JG&#8217;s words that SFD will not evolve into a political party, but calling it an SDP-affiliate is not misplaced. This is especially since we heard that JG sent in his resignation from WP just recently and we know how &#8220;unkaki&#8221; WP and SDP are. Also, with this affiliation (with SDP), SFD&#8217;s ability to collaborate with other opposition parties is very much limited since that leaves out the two &#8220;big&#8221; parties (WP and SPP).  </p>
<p>T</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 18 Jan 2010</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127297</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 18 Jan 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Growing your tree of prosperity: Love and politics - Singapore style! [Thanks Wai Chung] - TOC: SFD will take “bearings from the pledge” - TOC: Cooling-off to remember PAP’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Growing your tree of prosperity: Love and politics &#8211; Singapore style! [Thanks Wai Chung] &#8211; TOC: SFD will take “bearings from the pledge” &#8211; TOC: Cooling-off to remember PAP’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seelan Palay</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127204</link>
		<dc:creator>Seelan Palay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 03:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you smallvoice585,  I do take all public feedback in a positively. My comment above was to recommend other readers to view the issue objectively.

Have a good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you smallvoice585,  I do take all public feedback in a positively. My comment above was to recommend other readers to view the issue objectively.</p>
<p>Have a good day.</p>
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		<title>By: A Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127199</link>
		<dc:creator>A Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 03:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SDP doesn&#039;t need affiliates. 

Their online presence and influence is second to none. 

Nine mths wait -- err checked if application form is still in yr brief-case. Remember 2006 GE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SDP doesn&#8217;t need affiliates. </p>
<p>Their online presence and influence is second to none. </p>
<p>Nine mths wait &#8212; err checked if application form is still in yr brief-case. Remember 2006 GE?</p>
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		<title>By: smallvoice585</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127151</link>
		<dc:creator>smallvoice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear #9 Mr Palay,

As you are a member of the pro-tem committee of SFD, I hope you will receive all public feedback in a positive manner.

Issues tend to present greater clarity to outsiders looking in than to the protagonists directly involved in them.  You disregard the warnings of naysayers at your own peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear #9 Mr Palay,</p>
<p>As you are a member of the pro-tem committee of SFD, I hope you will receive all public feedback in a positive manner.</p>
<p>Issues tend to present greater clarity to outsiders looking in than to the protagonists directly involved in them.  You disregard the warnings of naysayers at your own peril.</p>
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		<title>By: Seelan Palay</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127142</link>
		<dc:creator>Seelan Palay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might be in the interest of some to quickly label this group as a &quot;splinter group&quot; of the SDP. 

But if they were to be objective they would know that the members of SFD have been involved in various causes and activist work over the years, and that this project is essentially a more organized manifestation of their collaboration.

We stay positive and hope to get started on our work soon, the merits of which you will be welcome to judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be in the interest of some to quickly label this group as a &#8220;splinter group&#8221; of the SDP. </p>
<p>But if they were to be objective they would know that the members of SFD have been involved in various causes and activist work over the years, and that this project is essentially a more organized manifestation of their collaboration.</p>
<p>We stay positive and hope to get started on our work soon, the merits of which you will be welcome to judge.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127061</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 05:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is a splinter group from the SDP then I&#039;m afraid its base is not going to be very wide and deep. Dr Gomez has to also show his rootedness to this country instead of flying off after each election,then who is going to fly the flaf of SFD or should we say SDP A.D.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is a splinter group from the SDP then I&#8217;m afraid its base is not going to be very wide and deep. Dr Gomez has to also show his rootedness to this country instead of flying off after each election,then who is going to fly the flaf of SFD or should we say SDP A.D.?</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-127004</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of bizzare moves are a good demonstration of why opposition parties are so weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of bizzare moves are a good demonstration of why opposition parties are so weak.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew leung</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-126924</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I understand that [registration] takes time,” he concedes.
Revealing that consultations with stakeholders will be held after an approval, the SFD hopes to “professionalize NGO activities” and “stabilize the (civil society) structure”. However, Dr Gomez clarified that the SFD will not try to dominate, but merely be a “component of the landscape”.

Who are the stakeholders that SfD wishes to work with. What would be some of the immediate agendas that they are planning for in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I understand that [registration] takes time,” he concedes.<br />
Revealing that consultations with stakeholders will be held after an approval, the SFD hopes to “professionalize NGO activities” and “stabilize the (civil society) structure”. However, Dr Gomez clarified that the SFD will not try to dominate, but merely be a “component of the landscape”.</p>
<p>Who are the stakeholders that SfD wishes to work with. What would be some of the immediate agendas that they are planning for in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: fae</title>
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		<dc:creator>fae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And rather than &quot;scraping the bottom of the barrel&quot; it looks more like James is getting people who are like-minded organised together. Stop being jealous lah :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And rather than &#8220;scraping the bottom of the barrel&#8221; it looks more like James is getting people who are like-minded organised together. Stop being jealous lah :)</p>
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		<title>By: fae</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-126915</link>
		<dc:creator>fae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously comment number 3 comes from a WP affiliate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously comment number 3 comes from a WP affiliate.</p>
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		<title>By: Lay See Lan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-126908</link>
		<dc:creator>Lay See Lan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodgy. Gomez hopes to work with political parties but look at the 3 members announced - the usual suspect from SDP. Which political party will work with this NGO? I am sure the other members also will come  from SDP or SDP supporters. Ex-jailbirds, protesters, etc etc.

Sad that Gomez is unable to attract new young people and have to scrape the bottom of the barrel and hijack from SDP. This NGO looks like a SDP affiliate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodgy. Gomez hopes to work with political parties but look at the 3 members announced &#8211; the usual suspect from SDP. Which political party will work with this NGO? I am sure the other members also will come  from SDP or SDP supporters. Ex-jailbirds, protesters, etc etc.</p>
<p>Sad that Gomez is unable to attract new young people and have to scrape the bottom of the barrel and hijack from SDP. This NGO looks like a SDP affiliate.</p>
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		<title>By: fae</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/01/the-politics-of-singaporeans-for-democracy-sfd/comment-page-1/#comment-126907</link>
		<dc:creator>fae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If PAP was interested in upholding the pledge and democracy in Singapore, I don&#039;t see why the SFD group can&#039;t work with them.

But.. we all know lah about PAP :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If PAP was interested in upholding the pledge and democracy in Singapore, I don&#8217;t see why the SFD group can&#8217;t work with them.</p>
<p>But.. we all know lah about PAP :)</p>
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		<title>By: smallvoice585</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallvoice585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a risk of &quot;Singaporeans for Democracy (SFD)&quot; becoming yet another white elephant whose raison d&#039;etre is ill-defined.  Is this going to be the latest of a long line of ill-conceived initiatives started by thinly-disguised non-mainstream political adventurers?

Why the early open declaration about co-operation with opposition political parties?

Mr Gomez has missed an opportunity to launch his NGO on a secure footing by unnecessarily encumbering it with his own past political prejudices and allegiances.

To prevent launching a still-born NGO, I advise Mr Gomez to rethink its priorities and perhaps to extend its co-operation to all parties, including the PAP, to establish its relevance and credibility as a promoter of democracy in Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a risk of &#8220;Singaporeans for Democracy (SFD)&#8221; becoming yet another white elephant whose raison d&#8217;etre is ill-defined.  Is this going to be the latest of a long line of ill-conceived initiatives started by thinly-disguised non-mainstream political adventurers?</p>
<p>Why the early open declaration about co-operation with opposition political parties?</p>
<p>Mr Gomez has missed an opportunity to launch his NGO on a secure footing by unnecessarily encumbering it with his own past political prejudices and allegiances.</p>
<p>To prevent launching a still-born NGO, I advise Mr Gomez to rethink its priorities and perhaps to extend its co-operation to all parties, including the PAP, to establish its relevance and credibility as a promoter of democracy in Singapore.</p>
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