she could have gotten off the stage immediately. from the video, she looked more like she was shy getting groped openly in front of the people rather than a helpless victim. she was still trying to dance up there on the stage.

anyway, lots of girls like that in clubs =)

Pirates of the Carribean…

Welcome to Singapore.

our locals gals may well be the helpless victims for future countdown parties, can trust police to arrest foreigners (especially angmohs) if he or worse they grope our women, children, girlfriend, family members…?

is this the “spice” someone said foreigners are?

There’s false psyche that “ALL” choices are laid out there and there’s actually no victim but fault of the “victim” themselves – destitute (why not working?!), can’t afford shelter (can get govt loan/assistance what!), can’t find job (SPUR, upgrade, retrain or is it cos you’re too fussy?), underemployed (retrain again!), retrenched (retrain, change industry!), molested (u asked for it by dressing so), cheated of money or mis-sold (cos u too greedy!)… and the list goes on…

To some extent, I blame western civilization for glorifying the constant anti-cultural endeavours of their youngsters – by advocating that just by being different, you’re trendy and hence admired. Being different doesn’t mean being an A**hole; and if that’s the only way they can think of, they’re complete dotards.

One CAN be different and unique and still have a conscience. Thesedays, I find that the people who are truly admired are the principled, ethical and thoughtful youngsters who are actually unique without submitting/surrendering to the peer pressure to be “cynically unique”. For goodness’ sake, some of those guys are 14 – 15! You haven’t experienced enough in life to even touch cynicism, so stop pretending to be!

I despair at the internet age youth… and yes, to a certain extent, I blame the PAP for that as well.

On your point about patriarchy. I think it is a non-starter.

1. The issue is about molest – a crime.
2. It is also about the nonchalant attitude of the public (no one assisted her).
3. It is s also about the sick guy who recorded it and bothered to post it.

I am not going into details of each, especially #1, which has been debated in other places that it might have been consensual. I would like to discuss on your point on patriarchy.

I sense that whenever there are gender issues, some women would take the opportunity to bring up this patriarchal society stuff. The case can draw sympathy on the argument of molest alone. It can draw further sympathy from the fact that no one helped her (or him?). But the moment you argue the patriarchal case, you dilute the seriousness of the crime and sympathy you have gathered.

Are you trying to imply that patriarchal system encourages crimes like molest? That it encourages sick voyeurism and nonchalance from the public to help a damsel (or transsexual) in distress?

See the turn of focus that would detract from the victim of molest, to the point that society must not endorse patriarchal system? Are we going to talk about why patriarchy is good or bad, and dilute the issue of the molested victim?

It is also interesting to note that while you are against stereotyping victim as culpable, you implied that patriarchy is contributory. Why can’t you and the others (whom you ticked off for implying victim culpability), just admit the REAL TRUTH – the molesters are the real criminals!

Why the need for this blame game, be it victim or patriarchal society?

Let me ask you what i am confident will Choke you and make you feel like want to take back your words .

1. Would you say the same IF your girlfriend or sister or friend or … was the person instead? Everyone on earth knows you you will not say the same thing. Double standard? pui!

Come, reply. hahahaha. I make you eat your words.

WHY?

Why did ST not report the type of person these were?
Why did ST not report what type of lady was groped?
Why did ST not show picture ?

For this news , i was glad i did not pay a cent to read the newspaper and had the internet resources to view all the videos and pictures, FOR FREE.

I don’t buy the news because….. i get to read for free legally. Why pay when its legal to read for free?

I felt nauseaus when the society commented that ‘she deserved it’. Reminds me of the usa movie where a woman was GANG RAPED in a pub on a pool table by sort of like biker gang or beer addicts.

She may wear attractively. This is legal. She did not seem like feeling comfortable when being “dehn’g” by foreign hands. I see that she wanted to get away but was like maybe too drunk or intoxicated to know what to do. Maybe she was numbed, in more places than 1?

Anyways, such acts must not be encouraged . When people say, ‘she asked for it’, it is like allowing or even in certain extent saying that what the men did is acceptable and legal. Would this not give pub goers more confidence to try groping women’s breasts and test water?

The lady may not have made police report. But why did the police not question the indian-lookalikes given that the whole internet has seen the video and photo evidence? Like this is the act recorded as a crime statistic? I think not.

Regardless, breast groping is wrong especially when done in public. young children may be learning too much from these immoral persons.

How many like that?
I had several similar type of colleagues who are young and away from home. another colleague asked them, you here so long, what happens when you feel the ‘urge’ ? They were pissed or embarrassed. So, they asked me bring them to Geylang. They preferred those from china, coincidentally. The other had more exotic one.

So, while we need to spare a thought for young male foreigner workers their urging needs, its wrong to get free gropes of the woman’s breasts, especially doing it in public like enjoying a free buffet and when the woman LOOKED too INTOXICATED to react or defend herself.

Women beware. Are you now AWARE?

Like this is it the only way to engage the young minds?

‘shavor’ i wonder what they trying to cut?

What to do, it has happened. Singapore is a very happening place.