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By: NotsoStupid

NotsoStupid — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:50:24 +0000

Gan’s spurious use of quantum theory is an example of another bad argument on Foreign Talents ; substituting one justification for another as though that were an explanation to Singapore’s reason for foreign talent influx that had reached epidemic proportions.

His “Ingroup” vs “Outgroup” are essentially a tactic to cleverly pit “Us” versus “Them” ie Singapore vs other Regions. Unfortunately he failed to recognized that at this moment, Singaporeans do NOT even share a “Us-ism among all these foreign talents” let alone trying to fight another grand invisible battle against the greater enemies he would so like to impose.

Good try, but failed.

By: kr

kr — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:06:11 +0000

Muneer: “Yes. We grew and expanded our economy rapidly. Yes we grew faster than our neighbours. Now it seems that in our haste to “grow” up we realise that we’ve been relying too much on foreign talents. This is a simple case of “Buy now! Pay later”. We wanted quick results but is this the goal we wanted to achieve. Sometimes its better to take our time and build a solid foundation before we think bout reaching for the stars.”

Ditto.

There are some important things to nation-building that require time too. Sure, the govt did very well, fantastic, bravo, etc etc with regards to the economic aspect, but what about cultural and national identity? I think Singaporeans are still having an identity crisis. Which cultural identity is still limited by ethnical boundaries, national identity is merely defined as a mash-up of three cultures. Harmony is forced and artificial. People are viewed as economic commodities rather than human, breathing citizens. Sometimes I wonder if in the govt’s strife for economic success they’ve forgotten the human aspect of nation-building.

By: Md Muneer

Md Muneer — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:53:37 +0000

Yes. We grew and expanded our economy rapidly. Yes we grew faster than our neighbours. Now it seems that in our haste to “grow” up we realise that we’ve been relying too much on foreign talents. This is a simple case of “Buy now! Pay later”. We wanted quick results but is this the goal we wanted to achieve. Sometimes its better to take our time and build a solid foundation before we think bout reaching for the stars. So what do we do now?
Plan A: Ship them all back home. (How do we do this? And if we do will we be able to survive?)
Plan B: Let them come and stay and eventually we lose our identities and S’pore becomes a colony of China, India and some other foreign country?
Lets just ponder for a minute shall we? If we had expanded our economy at a slower rate we may have had the chance to take time a plan and calibrate our growth to be positive for our people in both the materialistic and social aspect.
So what were we all rushing for?

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By: wui

wui — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:44:14 +0000

Prejudices Amidst Politicians, Perpetuating Anger, Pain.
Politicians Amassing Prizes: Properties – Assets – Paychecks
Productivity Acquires Peace? People Aren’t Products!
Past And Present, Prevalent Are People’s Power And Pride
Polls Arriving People! Power Awaiting Populace!

By: wow

wow — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:08:42 +0000

there just too many ministers without specific portfolio and giving conflicting signals. Let us aim to trim the cabinet and save the monies for better usage. Cut these portfolios – MM Lee, SM Goh, SM Jeyakumar, PMO Lim Swee Say, Lim Boon Heng, Lim Hwee Hwa….. and maybe with a streamlined cabinet, the voices will be clearer.

By: theforgottongeneration

theforgottongeneration — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:29:34 +0000

BTW, who is in charge of productivity over these years? PM LHL should do the right thing and SACK the bugger immediately. Or is he forever shielding his ministers as in WKS for the MSK issue?

I hope the opposition can press for an answer in parliament. C’mon Opposition candiates, show us some representation of the ground feeling. Even a 10-year-old knows how to ask such questions.

By: alamakwhome?

alamakwhome? — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:56:37 +0000

[i]please do not be fooled by their sweet words of deception and trickery[/i]

sweet words? even if they offered an expired ferari rochel chokoLATE..its alread too damn late..as for this gan fellow..he should be GUN down…don’t evn know what he is mubblin about…

By: barney

barney — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:36:17 +0000

it really seems as though they’re pointing the finger at us for the influx of foreign workers.
and since they’re running this place like a corporation, then they should practice what they preach. the well being of their people contribute significantly to the bottom line. what have they done to increase productivity? what are the incentives? retention strategies? reward & recognition schemes? talent management? work-life balance? singaporeans are among those in the world who work the longest but earn the least compared to 1st world nations.
they think threats (i.e the stick) will “spur” us to greater success. to them, the ends justify the means. we’re in the 21st century; the workforce demographic has changed. but the human capital policies of the current govt has not. they want us to be independent workers, but they are terrible managers who micro-manage and contradict themselves and demonstrate poor communication skills.
as an ‘employer of choice’, i think the incumbent govt has failed MISERABLY.
we need a pro-active govt, not a reactionary one that resorts to threats and ultimatums to “encourage” their people.
please do not be fooled by their sweet words of deception and trickery.

By: Truth be said

Truth be said — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:01:49 +0000

I believe the government is now aware of the unhappiness from the ground and they are trying to reassure the people that they are doing something about it. However, I am afraid that is about it. The thing about raising prices for education, medical care, etc, so that PRs and foreigners have to pay more than the locals is sort of like a knee jerk reaction to the growlings from the ground. And it would seem this policy is aimed at getting more foreigners to sign up for citizenship. The question we have to ask is why only now when foreigners have been flooding the country for the last 10-15 years? Surely, our capable government should have thought about the negative reactions.

In a big way, we are where we are today because of how the government run the country – like running a company. In an company, the top people always get the fattest pay and enjoy the best perks. Afterall, they are the ones who decide how much to reward themselves. And like any company, the bottom line is the most important thing. In order to increase profits and lower costs, one of the easiest thing to do is the lower manpower costs. I am sure you can figure out the rest of the story.

We must recognise that it may be neccessary to bring in foreigners to fill up jobs typically shun by Singaporeans. And I am sure we need some foriegners with specialized skills/knowledge that Singaporeans lack. The worrying thing is that we get foreigners coming here as students, construction workers, executives, managers and CEOs. Foreigners can be found practically at every level of the job market. You name it and we’ve got them. And we have them abundantly.

I can’t help but wonder if the government is desperate and running out of ideas as to how to grow the economy.

By: CrowdedHouse

CrowdedHouse — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:19:59 +0000

The Jackal , Feb 9, 2010 22:24 – People Amortization Party ?

Another one – Pui And Pui !!!

By: Tear Down or Tears Down

Tear Down or Tears Down — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:06:30 +0000

Guys and Gals, there is really only 1 thing we can do.
Our future lies in this last chance for change.
I will do my part.
We must make it happen.
There is no other way.
I take this personally.

By: prettyplace

prettyplace — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:09:58 +0000

#wui..what a good one.

By: prettyplace

prettyplace — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:06:22 +0000

Tha is why, I once wrote a comment on Innvotaive Index. We should have had one for foriegners.

Everthing being equal, I can see only 1 thing. Election is coming. The confusion is going on.
‘ Feel You’re Singaporean Effect” is taking place.
The diffence between PR’s & Singaporean line being drawn.
Less foriegner more productivity talk will go on.

My friend went to the CDC to get help for a taxi licence. Lo & Behold, no help. He has to get everything done on his own. Bull shit after bullshit will be thrown from now onwards.

I just hope TOC diseminates and disects all the facts and nonsense to keep us informed.

And another thing Gan, just did not know how he has contridicted himself. You should be a politician to know what you say and how it can be read, but he was hand pecked. How will he know.

By: Skuker

Skuker — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:43:05 +0000

I always dream of being able to tap onto all my CPF for important needs.
Alas, i woke up and realise, i am living in reality.

By: People Arrogant Party

People Arrogant Party — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:42:16 +0000

The fat GAN’s “ingroup” statement is simply rubbish. I just don’t get it, he is simply confusing himself and using slogan like Lim Swee Say to fool everyone.

By: The Jackal

The Jackal — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:24:03 +0000

People Amortization Party ?

By: New Era

New Era — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:18:17 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP_fas_XueU&feature=player_embedded Singaporeans are demanding for change. Change is the only solution to all our problems.

By: sweeney 38

sweeney 38 — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:59:08 +0000

The invasion of the “new arrivals” into our land, is truly a nightmare!

These so-called “talents” are most favoured and protected by the DAFT regime.
Priorities in housing and jobs are offered to them, instead of true blue Singaporeans.

Ungrateful, corrupted bunch of stupid, crazy PAP, must be put out of action!

Do yourselves, your children a favour and ………..VOTE OUT PAP!!!