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		<title>By: Dissecting Budget 2010 &#124; Sgpolitics.net</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-175913</link>
		<dc:creator>Dissecting Budget 2010 &#124; Sgpolitics.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: young, ignorant &#38; highfalutin</title>
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		<dc:creator>young, ignorant &#38; highfalutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while it make little sense to give the lower income group large amts of money in grand acts of charity, much more should be done for them.
most are not well educated but many r a relatively hardworking lot, they are only looking for a modest but respectable retirement n a better future for their children.
what could be more demoralising than slogging hard everyday in &quot;less desirable&quot; jobs but end up realising they could hardly make ends meet?
surely it&#039;s ok for the FTs, for their stay here is temporal, n they live in worker&#039;s dorms or shared rental housing which is much lower cost n they have no family here,living cost can be very low if u r alone. after some years here, they move on. as for singaporeans, where can they move on to?
therefore i think establishing a minimum wage would enourage more singaporeans to take up such jobs n be gainfully employed.
to prevent the FTs from taking advantage of the minimum wage, it could be implemented like an expanded jobs credit scheme.
meaning to say the singaporean n FT work on the same job, they are paid the same wage which is dictated by market forces, let this be $Y.
lets say the minimum wage is set as $X
in the event where X is greater than Y, the government comes in n top up the difference to $Y, FTs are not allowed to claim this top up.
at the low end of the wage bracket it is not going to cost the government(or rather more accurately the tax payers) a lot of money. in good years when the governemnt kept running budget surplus n creaming it off into reserves n then the MAS lent to somebody to invest, whom in turn lose the money. we might as well put it to better use.
local singaporeans have no where to &quot;go back&quot; to which has lower cost of living n favourable currency conversion rates, they live in a REAL world but they are paid as much as a FT, does this make sense to u?
perhaps they might not even be able to retire in johor with that wage, much less in singapore.
btw, i am looking for partners to set up a joint venture to built low rise condo style cluster living retirement villages for singaporeans in Dhaka - Bangladesh, anyone who is interested can give me a call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while it make little sense to give the lower income group large amts of money in grand acts of charity, much more should be done for them.<br />
most are not well educated but many r a relatively hardworking lot, they are only looking for a modest but respectable retirement n a better future for their children.<br />
what could be more demoralising than slogging hard everyday in &#8220;less desirable&#8221; jobs but end up realising they could hardly make ends meet?<br />
surely it&#8217;s ok for the FTs, for their stay here is temporal, n they live in worker&#8217;s dorms or shared rental housing which is much lower cost n they have no family here,living cost can be very low if u r alone. after some years here, they move on. as for singaporeans, where can they move on to?<br />
therefore i think establishing a minimum wage would enourage more singaporeans to take up such jobs n be gainfully employed.<br />
to prevent the FTs from taking advantage of the minimum wage, it could be implemented like an expanded jobs credit scheme.<br />
meaning to say the singaporean n FT work on the same job, they are paid the same wage which is dictated by market forces, let this be $Y.<br />
lets say the minimum wage is set as $X<br />
in the event where X is greater than Y, the government comes in n top up the difference to $Y, FTs are not allowed to claim this top up.<br />
at the low end of the wage bracket it is not going to cost the government(or rather more accurately the tax payers) a lot of money. in good years when the governemnt kept running budget surplus n creaming it off into reserves n then the MAS lent to somebody to invest, whom in turn lose the money. we might as well put it to better use.<br />
local singaporeans have no where to &#8220;go back&#8221; to which has lower cost of living n favourable currency conversion rates, they live in a REAL world but they are paid as much as a FT, does this make sense to u?<br />
perhaps they might not even be able to retire in johor with that wage, much less in singapore.<br />
btw, i am looking for partners to set up a joint venture to built low rise condo style cluster living retirement villages for singaporeans in Dhaka &#8211; Bangladesh, anyone who is interested can give me a call.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-133930</link>
		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Objective,

what is working in a world class country in S&#039;pore like? slogging away almost round the clock like a slave for paltry pay? what is work/life balance? an aspiration that 1 can only dream of? what use is &quot;growth&quot; in GDP good for? 

eh, let&#039;s take an alternative perspective. why are employers always looking for the cheapest staff to fatten the bottomline? is there no other way or are they always taking the easiest route (hence, no culture of innovate). bringing down wages is no longer yielding its desired results, to continue down this path will doom the companies that fail to look for alternative solutions. 

companies can always compare cheaper &amp; &quot;hungrier&quot; foreign workers to locals, if companies do not 1 2 do business here, they can leave. local staff need (not want) a decent wage to reflect accurately the cost of living here. if all employers hire staff based on the lowest wage, sooner or later their businesses may well go bust, because domestic comsumption cannot sustain them.

when that happens, maybe govt should let businesses fail because their business model is fundamentally flawed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Objective,</p>
<p>what is working in a world class country in S&#8217;pore like? slogging away almost round the clock like a slave for paltry pay? what is work/life balance? an aspiration that 1 can only dream of? what use is &#8220;growth&#8221; in GDP good for? </p>
<p>eh, let&#8217;s take an alternative perspective. why are employers always looking for the cheapest staff to fatten the bottomline? is there no other way or are they always taking the easiest route (hence, no culture of innovate). bringing down wages is no longer yielding its desired results, to continue down this path will doom the companies that fail to look for alternative solutions. </p>
<p>companies can always compare cheaper &amp; &#8220;hungrier&#8221; foreign workers to locals, if companies do not 1 2 do business here, they can leave. local staff need (not want) a decent wage to reflect accurately the cost of living here. if all employers hire staff based on the lowest wage, sooner or later their businesses may well go bust, because domestic comsumption cannot sustain them.</p>
<p>when that happens, maybe govt should let businesses fail because their business model is fundamentally flawed?</p>
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		<title>By: schrödinger's duck</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-132674</link>
		<dc:creator>schrödinger's duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>germany exports mercedes, bmw, volkswagen, sap, audi, adidas, porsche, bosch, siemens 
usa exports potato chips, junk food, CDOs, the greenback, more junk food, weapons n debt.


as in the case of germany, if your exports are of high value u don&#039;t have to work like hell, n u will have high productivity per hour worked.
Philippe Dufour is an old man, doesn&#039;t work like mad n is more productive per hour than most singaporeans.
as in the case of USA, if u manage to engineer yourself into the position where u r able to hold the world ransom, if u can export debt, it does not matter if u export lots of worthless stuff or low value stuff like potato chips.
singapore cant do either.
so,
what does singapore export?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>germany exports mercedes, bmw, volkswagen, sap, audi, adidas, porsche, bosch, siemens<br />
usa exports potato chips, junk food, CDOs, the greenback, more junk food, weapons n debt.</p>
<p>as in the case of germany, if your exports are of high value u don&#8217;t have to work like hell, n u will have high productivity per hour worked.<br />
Philippe Dufour is an old man, doesn&#8217;t work like mad n is more productive per hour than most singaporeans.<br />
as in the case of USA, if u manage to engineer yourself into the position where u r able to hold the world ransom, if u can export debt, it does not matter if u export lots of worthless stuff or low value stuff like potato chips.<br />
singapore cant do either.<br />
so,<br />
what does singapore export?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome Au Kian Beng aka Mr Vivian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-132241</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Au Kian Beng aka Mr Vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sg is a so-called 1st world and open FT policy and said to be swiz standard.
Switzerland is a 1st world and welcomes FTs like Germans who are the backbone of their economy.

But why Swiss can pay the germans so much higher salaries than sg?

What i know is top class foreign talents are usually paid very highly.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sg is a so-called 1st world and open FT policy and said to be swiz standard.<br />
Switzerland is a 1st world and welcomes FTs like Germans who are the backbone of their economy.</p>
<p>But why Swiss can pay the germans so much higher salaries than sg?</p>
<p>What i know is top class foreign talents are usually paid very highly.</p>
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		<title>By: soojenn</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-131846</link>
		<dc:creator>soojenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Finance Minister also spoke about nurturing the next generation of business leaders, such as spending money to enhance SPRINGS’s Business Leaders Initiative, which is a grooming programme for young business talents.&quot;

This must be the Finance Mininster million dollar joke.... that SPRING is capable of grooming young business talents? don&#039;t joke, they have the worst kind of leaders in there, and what have they nutured to date? and as usual, they have a BG, reps from stat borads like  NTUC, JTC, plenty of PAP supporters like Zaqy, academics.  

Only 7 biz related people are on the BOD of 18 where majority of the 7 is not even internationally exposed or considered successful. And we are spending more money n SPRING&#039;s initiatives? more money down the drain presumably</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Finance Minister also spoke about nurturing the next generation of business leaders, such as spending money to enhance SPRINGS’s Business Leaders Initiative, which is a grooming programme for young business talents.&#8221;</p>
<p>This must be the Finance Mininster million dollar joke&#8230;. that SPRING is capable of grooming young business talents? don&#8217;t joke, they have the worst kind of leaders in there, and what have they nutured to date? and as usual, they have a BG, reps from stat borads like  NTUC, JTC, plenty of PAP supporters like Zaqy, academics.  </p>
<p>Only 7 biz related people are on the BOD of 18 where majority of the 7 is not even internationally exposed or considered successful. And we are spending more money n SPRING&#8217;s initiatives? more money down the drain presumably</p>
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		<title>By: sharkfinmoneylender</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharkfinmoneylender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 can easily migrate to switzerland if 1 chose to...do you all know that enterin into switzerland do not required to be stamped by immigration @ all?
i asked the polite immigration officer why is my passport not stamped? and i could disappear and mingled liked a swiss cheese....
the polite immigration officer asked me..are you nuts? maybe you watched the sound of musik too often...who in their right mind would want to travel in a tram and pay sin$5 per trip? for those who think they can siamed the minimum $5 ticket ride..don&#039;t even THINK..don&#039;t act dumb and blurred as well..the citizens in the same bustop would tapped your shoulders and point in every bustop there is a ticket punchin machine...punched IT..
beside plaincloth bus inspector are everywhere..without a valid punched ticket..you would be fined on the spot 10 times the penalty..no bargains no excuses allowed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 can easily migrate to switzerland if 1 chose to&#8230;do you all know that enterin into switzerland do not required to be stamped by immigration @ all?<br />
i asked the polite immigration officer why is my passport not stamped? and i could disappear and mingled liked a swiss cheese&#8230;.<br />
the polite immigration officer asked me..are you nuts? maybe you watched the sound of musik too often&#8230;who in their right mind would want to travel in a tram and pay sin$5 per trip? for those who think they can siamed the minimum $5 ticket ride..don&#8217;t even THINK..don&#8217;t act dumb and blurred as well..the citizens in the same bustop would tapped your shoulders and point in every bustop there is a ticket punchin machine&#8230;punched IT..<br />
beside plaincloth bus inspector are everywhere..without a valid punched ticket..you would be fined on the spot 10 times the penalty..no bargains no excuses allowed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Weeson</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-131534</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Weeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Switzerland relies heavily on Germans , correct me if i am wrong, so what is the Productivity of Switzerland workforce compared to singapore workforce?
Compare labor cost of Germans with sg FTs.
Sg swiss standard or not already?
answer leh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switzerland relies heavily on Germans , correct me if i am wrong, so what is the Productivity of Switzerland workforce compared to singapore workforce?<br />
Compare labor cost of Germans with sg FTs.<br />
Sg swiss standard or not already?<br />
answer leh.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbodier</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-131530</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumbodier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa....

Are Singaporean really that lazy ?

Didn&#039;t GCT visited France recently ? How can he explain both France and UK  have  the same productivity level but France did it with a 35 hour workweek,  60% salary tax, 10% unemployment and countless street riots and strikes ?

Do GCT know which country have more foreign workers ? France or UK ? What about Germany, do German companies always cry for foreign workers similar Singapore companies ?

Didn&#039;t LKY visited UK NHS several years back ? Are they more productive than Singapore or France ?

I rest my case.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa&#8230;.</p>
<p>Are Singaporean really that lazy ?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t GCT visited France recently ? How can he explain both France and UK  have  the same productivity level but France did it with a 35 hour workweek,  60% salary tax, 10% unemployment and countless street riots and strikes ?</p>
<p>Do GCT know which country have more foreign workers ? France or UK ? What about Germany, do German companies always cry for foreign workers similar Singapore companies ?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t LKY visited UK NHS several years back ? Are they more productive than Singapore or France ?</p>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Chiwawa RC (real cute)</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-131525</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiwawa RC (real cute)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray, 

tell us, how much is total loss?
why productivity now the focus with so many foreigner workers?
do you know the pricing components of HDB?
how do you know what you dun know ? (a general question)
enlighten us. if not, humor us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, </p>
<p>tell us, how much is total loss?<br />
why productivity now the focus with so many foreigner workers?<br />
do you know the pricing components of HDB?<br />
how do you know what you dun know ? (a general question)<br />
enlighten us. if not, humor us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumb and dumber</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/dissecting-budget-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-131453</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumb and dumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;our Ministers are hardworking true Singaporeans unlike most of us here who just like complaining for the sake of it&quot;
&gt;&gt; Please provide facts to substantiate your claim. PERIOD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;our Ministers are hardworking true Singaporeans unlike most of us here who just like complaining for the sake of it&#8221;<br />
&gt;&gt; Please provide facts to substantiate your claim. PERIOD.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wah lau ray.. you are really dense and naive..

lim - let me add &quot;graduate mother scheme&quot;, &quot;education streaming&quot;, &quot;Chip Goodyear&quot;, &quot;Foreign talent&quot;, etc to the list of failed policies  made by government</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wah lau ray.. you are really dense and naive..</p>
<p>lim &#8211; let me add &#8220;graduate mother scheme&#8221;, &#8220;education streaming&#8221;, &#8220;Chip Goodyear&#8221;, &#8220;Foreign talent&#8221;, etc to the list of failed policies  made by government</p>
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		<title>By: lim</title>
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		<dc:creator>lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ray Feb 25, 2010 3:03

After reading your posting, I can&#039;t decide whether to puke or laugh, thin I will puke first, then laugh..

2 is enough failed policy, please explain where is the foresight? how come we need to import foreigners to make up for the short fall in population now?

TH/GIC loses, so with the high brain power, why they are losing $ instead of making a killing in this financial turmoil..

Swiss standard of living, world cup 2010, please tell me what happens?

mee siam mai hum, please tell me which stall is selling mee siam with hum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ray Feb 25, 2010 3:03</p>
<p>After reading your posting, I can&#8217;t decide whether to puke or laugh, thin I will puke first, then laugh..</p>
<p>2 is enough failed policy, please explain where is the foresight? how come we need to import foreigners to make up for the short fall in population now?</p>
<p>TH/GIC loses, so with the high brain power, why they are losing $ instead of making a killing in this financial turmoil..</p>
<p>Swiss standard of living, world cup 2010, please tell me what happens?</p>
<p>mee siam mai hum, please tell me which stall is selling mee siam with hum?</p>
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		<title>By: mon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//Ray
the brain power of LKY to lose the equivalent of the wealth of Ng Teng Fong in a year?
I can do that too.
How did the Taiwanese, HKer, South Koreans managed their development and higher purchasing power and retirement monies without LKY? and locking people up for no reason?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//Ray<br />
the brain power of LKY to lose the equivalent of the wealth of Ng Teng Fong in a year?<br />
I can do that too.<br />
How did the Taiwanese, HKer, South Koreans managed their development and higher purchasing power and retirement monies without LKY? and locking people up for no reason?</p>
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		<title>By: nonsense</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...well ministers are not responsible...&quot;
They are way ahead of you. They are NEVER accountable for ANYTHING. Been there done that.


&quot;....our Ministers are hardworking true Singaporeans unlike most of us here...&quot;
Zzzz...No wonder they say SIZE matters. 
Some use their short little organ to bootlick till it shines. But world-class &lt;strong&gt;retards&lt;/strong&gt; wrap their 12 inch tongue around the boots to keep it in business. :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;well ministers are not responsible&#8230;&#8221;<br />
They are way ahead of you. They are NEVER accountable for ANYTHING. Been there done that.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.our Ministers are hardworking true Singaporeans unlike most of us here&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Zzzz&#8230;No wonder they say SIZE matters.<br />
Some use their short little organ to bootlick till it shines. But world-class <strong>retards</strong> wrap their 12 inch tongue around the boots to keep it in business. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just look at countries around us, corruptions and political instability will ruin a country, as for our Senior leaders, be it Our LKY, Goh or Jeya , they are not there just to be paid, their brain power and experience is an added factor for what the accelerating Singapore is all about, just do not comment on ministers wages dude, don&quot;t they deserve it ? for all they have made Singapore , for what it is  now, they deserve what they are earning , the Govt is doing what they could for Singaporeans , some of us singaporeans  being lazy and therefore we are unemployed ,well ministers are not responsible for individual&quot;s laziness, our Ministers are hardworking true Singaporeans unlike most of us here who just like complaining for the sake of it,  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just look at countries around us, corruptions and political instability will ruin a country, as for our Senior leaders, be it Our LKY, Goh or Jeya , they are not there just to be paid, their brain power and experience is an added factor for what the accelerating Singapore is all about, just do not comment on ministers wages dude, don&#8221;t they deserve it ? for all they have made Singapore , for what it is  now, they deserve what they are earning , the Govt is doing what they could for Singaporeans , some of us singaporeans  being lazy and therefore we are unemployed ,well ministers are not responsible for individual&#8221;s laziness, our Ministers are hardworking true Singaporeans unlike most of us here who just like complaining for the sake of it,  </p>
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		<title>By: PeeAndPoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeAndPoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advice on how to improve &quot;productivity&quot; as in &quot;making babies&quot; may be easier than work productivity .So our highly paid ministers please don&#039;t recommend aphrodasiac to our hungry local workers when you should recommend food to keep us alive!
We need jobs NOT  catalysts or abstract talk on productivity where so-called funding find their way only to GLCs !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advice on how to improve &#8220;productivity&#8221; as in &#8220;making babies&#8221; may be easier than work productivity .So our highly paid ministers please don&#8217;t recommend aphrodasiac to our hungry local workers when you should recommend food to keep us alive!<br />
We need jobs NOT  catalysts or abstract talk on productivity where so-called funding find their way only to GLCs !</p>
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		<title>By: YummyMummy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect the govt provides cheap labour so that businesses can afford to pay them the high rental and also more taxes in profit.  Does anybody has the figures for Govt rental revenue?

With the astronomical rental revenue and also profit tax, the Govt should then give out more benefits to the people to compensate for the low wage or unemployed.  Problem is this is not happening.  The cycle is broken somewhere.  The Govt should either regulate wage (min pay) or distribute the revenue collected, they cannot don&#039;t regulate wage and don&#039;t give out revenue from businesses.  They are not doing either of these, I suspect thats why they can afford to reward themselves astronomically, and thats why the people of Spore are suffering in a so called super rich country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the govt provides cheap labour so that businesses can afford to pay them the high rental and also more taxes in profit.  Does anybody has the figures for Govt rental revenue?</p>
<p>With the astronomical rental revenue and also profit tax, the Govt should then give out more benefits to the people to compensate for the low wage or unemployed.  Problem is this is not happening.  The cycle is broken somewhere.  The Govt should either regulate wage (min pay) or distribute the revenue collected, they cannot don&#8217;t regulate wage and don&#8217;t give out revenue from businesses.  They are not doing either of these, I suspect thats why they can afford to reward themselves astronomically, and thats why the people of Spore are suffering in a so called super rich country.</p>
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		<title>By: theforgottongeneration</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@objective, Feb 24, 2010 10:08

dunno what is the Objective of that logic -- that singaporeans dun wanna be construction worker, etc. There is an article in the ST today bya visiting prof. economist -- even he says that one of the traps of low cost foreign workers is that they hold down the wages for locals. This has been debated extensively in TOC &amp; other blogs previously, and only morons will still believe (or want to believe, or want others to believe) that S&#039;poreans only want high pay in cushy jobs. Maybe you are thinking of our ministers, and concludes that ordinary S&#039;poreans also aspire for obscene pay while doing some wayang now &amp; then. 

@Whoosh Extraordinaire , Feb 24, 2010 10:44

Had siblings and friends studied in Canada, and they worked as fruit pickers during term breaks. Forgot what was the min wage per week then, but everyone was like .... whaa, rich man! They had rent to pay, uni fees to pay, food to buy, winter clothing(!) to buy, etc.... and that national min wage standard was found to be &quot;quite comfortable&quot;. So agreed, instead of bashing S&#039;poreans to death, mainstream proponents should show they know the full picture -- bring in also standard of living, cost of living, decent wage levels for &quot;dirty&quot; jobs, job designing, etc... when commenting.

But alas, all we hear is that LEVY thingy in the budget. How does that help the average S&#039;pore hold a job or pay the bills?

Morons, I say.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@objective, Feb 24, 2010 10:08</p>
<p>dunno what is the Objective of that logic &#8212; that singaporeans dun wanna be construction worker, etc. There is an article in the ST today bya visiting prof. economist &#8212; even he says that one of the traps of low cost foreign workers is that they hold down the wages for locals. This has been debated extensively in TOC &amp; other blogs previously, and only morons will still believe (or want to believe, or want others to believe) that S&#8217;poreans only want high pay in cushy jobs. Maybe you are thinking of our ministers, and concludes that ordinary S&#8217;poreans also aspire for obscene pay while doing some wayang now &amp; then. </p>
<p>@Whoosh Extraordinaire , Feb 24, 2010 10:44</p>
<p>Had siblings and friends studied in Canada, and they worked as fruit pickers during term breaks. Forgot what was the min wage per week then, but everyone was like &#8230;. whaa, rich man! They had rent to pay, uni fees to pay, food to buy, winter clothing(!) to buy, etc&#8230;. and that national min wage standard was found to be &#8221;quite comfortable&#8221;. So agreed, instead of bashing S&#8217;poreans to death, mainstream proponents should show they know the full picture &#8212; bring in also standard of living, cost of living, decent wage levels for &#8220;dirty&#8221; jobs, job designing, etc&#8230; when commenting.</p>
<p>But alas, all we hear is that LEVY thingy in the budget. How does that help the average S&#8217;pore hold a job or pay the bills?</p>
<p>Morons, I say&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: To Fork or not to Fork, either way, it fork</title>
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		<dc:creator>To Fork or not to Fork, either way, it fork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ministers need to explain why their master non mediocre plan of having so many foreigners here and PRs and new citizens here have resulted in a situation of Productivity not enough?

Gan, LSS,  you wan to exprain or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ministers need to explain why their master non mediocre plan of having so many foreigners here and PRs and new citizens here have resulted in a situation of Productivity not enough?</p>
<p>Gan, LSS,  you wan to exprain or not?</p>
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