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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Tham Eng
Feb 12, 2010 23:11

in your post somewhere 2/3 of it there is a line that reads: 
&quot;He is a brave and humble man,...&quot;

care to enlighten how your opinion is such?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Tham Eng<br />
Feb 12, 2010 23:11</p>
<p>in your post somewhere 2/3 of it there is a line that reads:<br />
&#8220;He is a brave and humble man,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>care to enlighten how your opinion is such?</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://-/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh Tham Eng&lt;/a&gt; 
Feb 12, 2010 23:11

in your post somewhere 2/3 of it there is a line that reads: 
&quot;He is a brave and humble man,...&quot;

care to enlighten how your opinion is such?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://-/" rel="nofollow">Oh Tham Eng</a><br />
Feb 12, 2010 23:11</p>
<p>in your post somewhere 2/3 of it there is a line that reads:<br />
&#8220;He is a brave and humble man,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>care to enlighten how your opinion is such?</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Tham Eng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Tham Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>{Slap Rony Tan the PEST 
Feb 12, 2010 8:18
@Oh tham eng
yes, i will think it will mitigate a little for the grave insults, this idiot pest has been spewing.
yes, and it will also help to fight for my defenseless mother, my wife, my kids etc.
don’t worry, after i slapped him, i will say &quot;even though you deserve it, sorry. I think the presentation may be insensitive to some.&quot;
on yr offer, u did not insult me, why should i want to slap u?
if u want to take the rap for this idiot, there are lots of temples in Singapore.
just go to any one and confess to this idiot’s insults of the devotees and their religion, and see if anyone wants to take up yr offer.
by the way, thanks for the blessing, but i think u better save it for the Rony idiot before he goes to hell.}

 



 
Hi dude,
 

 

 
&lt;strong&gt;MAY YOU BE BLESSED AND TRANSFORMED BY DIVINE POWER, SIR!&lt;/strong&gt;





It seems you have a low EQ or IQ. If Rony Tan is what he was before a Taoist medium &#039;introduced&#039; Jesus and demonstrated the power of Jesus while the latter was in a trance and connected to demon spirits (which then got Rony Tan interest in this Jesus), he would want to kill you too, as he nearly did to one of his dear band-mates. But if you are serious in wanting to slap him, just remember that he spoke sensibly and truthfully from the perspective of his previous life as a staunch, anti-Christian Taoist-Buddhist. No cooked up stories.
Well, just let me/us know clearly that you are serious in wanting to slap him and/or me (since I have now good reasons to say you have have exposed yourself to have a low mentality). Let&#039;s get the journalists to cover your slapping appointment and tell us where we can meet you and the press. But if you want to change your mind about not wanting to slap me/him, we won&#039;t be complaining. Just that we want you to be serious in what you say you want to do. You must also tell the press (who will report to Singaporeans) how such a slapping act can make you into a better person. If you could not, it is okay with me to slap me so that I can tell you again we are very sorry, and thereafter wishing that you can be blessed by divine power to be transformed one day. It would be educational (depending on how one looks at it) if the slapping appointment can be uploaded on youtube for all to see.
No problem for him if you want to slap him. He is a brave and humble man, and he knows how you feel as he himself was like that as a staunch Taoist-Buddhist. But of course not all Taoist-Buddhists are like that, with such low mentality as you have. That is why I seriously think you need to make a trip or two to Bright Hill Temple and seat at the feat of the wise and Venerable Kwang Sheng to learn Buddhism and be civilised by that venerable Buddhist priest. It was a very good session with them for Pastor Rony Tan on 9/2/10 morning. So I believe it will also be very good for you to make the trips there to learn from Venerable Kwang Sheng. Otherwise I do not know how you can exorcise the animalism in you. But please do not feel shy to drop by Lighthouse Evangelsiom to attend the Saturday&#039;s Night Miracle Service if you or your loved ones have any sickness or problems one day and need prayers.
May you be blessed and transformed within by the power of divine love, sir!. Good night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{Slap Rony Tan the PEST<br />
Feb 12, 2010 8:18<br />
@Oh tham eng<br />
yes, i will think it will mitigate a little for the grave insults, this idiot pest has been spewing.<br />
yes, and it will also help to fight for my defenseless mother, my wife, my kids etc.<br />
don’t worry, after i slapped him, i will say &#8220;even though you deserve it, sorry. I think the presentation may be insensitive to some.&#8221;<br />
on yr offer, u did not insult me, why should i want to slap u?<br />
if u want to take the rap for this idiot, there are lots of temples in Singapore.<br />
just go to any one and confess to this idiot’s insults of the devotees and their religion, and see if anyone wants to take up yr offer.<br />
by the way, thanks for the blessing, but i think u better save it for the Rony idiot before he goes to hell.}</p>
<p> </p>
<p> <br />
Hi dude,<br />
 </p>
<p> </p>
<p> <br />
<strong>MAY YOU BE BLESSED AND TRANSFORMED BY DIVINE POWER, SIR!</strong></p>
<p>It seems you have a low EQ or IQ. If Rony Tan is what he was before a Taoist medium &#8216;introduced&#8217; Jesus and demonstrated the power of Jesus while the latter was in a trance and connected to demon spirits (which then got Rony Tan interest in this Jesus), he would want to kill you too, as he nearly did to one of his dear band-mates. But if you are serious in wanting to slap him, just remember that he spoke sensibly and truthfully from the perspective of his previous life as a staunch, anti-Christian Taoist-Buddhist. No cooked up stories.<br />
Well, just let me/us know clearly that you are serious in wanting to slap him and/or me (since I have now good reasons to say you have have exposed yourself to have a low mentality). Let&#8217;s get the journalists to cover your slapping appointment and tell us where we can meet you and the press. But if you want to change your mind about not wanting to slap me/him, we won&#8217;t be complaining. Just that we want you to be serious in what you say you want to do. You must also tell the press (who will report to Singaporeans) how such a slapping act can make you into a better person. If you could not, it is okay with me to slap me so that I can tell you again we are very sorry, and thereafter wishing that you can be blessed by divine power to be transformed one day. It would be educational (depending on how one looks at it) if the slapping appointment can be uploaded on youtube for all to see.<br />
No problem for him if you want to slap him. He is a brave and humble man, and he knows how you feel as he himself was like that as a staunch Taoist-Buddhist. But of course not all Taoist-Buddhists are like that, with such low mentality as you have. That is why I seriously think you need to make a trip or two to Bright Hill Temple and seat at the feat of the wise and Venerable Kwang Sheng to learn Buddhism and be civilised by that venerable Buddhist priest. It was a very good session with them for Pastor Rony Tan on 9/2/10 morning. So I believe it will also be very good for you to make the trips there to learn from Venerable Kwang Sheng. Otherwise I do not know how you can exorcise the animalism in you. But please do not feel shy to drop by Lighthouse Evangelsiom to attend the Saturday&#8217;s Night Miracle Service if you or your loved ones have any sickness or problems one day and need prayers.<br />
May you be blessed and transformed within by the power of divine love, sir!. Good night!</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Tham Eng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Tham Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My post got lost.  What happened?</description>
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		<title>By: Oh Tham Eng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Tham Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>{Slap Rony Tan the PEST  Feb 12, 2010 8:18
@Oh tham eng
yes, i will think it will mitigate a little for the grave insults, this idiot pest has been spewing.
yes, and it will also help to fight for my defenseless mother, my wife, my kids etc. don’t worry, after i slapped him, i will say &quot;even though you deserve it, sorry. I think the presentation may be insensitive to some.&quot; on yr offer, u did not insult me, why should i want to slap u?  if u want to take the rap for this idiot, there are lots of temples in Singapore.
just go to any one and confess to this idiot’s insults of the devotees and their religion, and see if anyone wants to take up yr offer.  by the way, thanks for the blessing, but i think u better save it for the Rony idiot before he goes to hell.}


Hi dude,




 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{Slap Rony Tan the PEST  Feb 12, 2010 8:18<br />
@Oh tham eng<br />
yes, i will think it will mitigate a little for the grave insults, this idiot pest has been spewing.<br />
yes, and it will also help to fight for my defenseless mother, my wife, my kids etc. don’t worry, after i slapped him, i will say &#8220;even though you deserve it, sorry. I think the presentation may be insensitive to some.&#8221; on yr offer, u did not insult me, why should i want to slap u?  if u want to take the rap for this idiot, there are lots of temples in Singapore.<br />
just go to any one and confess to this idiot’s insults of the devotees and their religion, and see if anyone wants to take up yr offer.  by the way, thanks for the blessing, but i think u better save it for the Rony idiot before he goes to hell.}</p>
<p>Hi dude,</p>
<p> <br />
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		<title>By: bongiovi</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all these holy holy thing that Oh Tham Eng and his like mind people always gives me the creeps.... it seems like they are people who are quite on the surface... hypocrites.... that is the impression they give me....
 
holy venture and stuff... its all crap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all these holy holy thing that Oh Tham Eng and his like mind people always gives me the creeps&#8230;. it seems like they are people who are quite on the surface&#8230; hypocrites&#8230;. that is the impression they give me&#8230;.<br />
 <br />
holy venture and stuff&#8230; its all crap</p>
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		<title>By: Arix (@UK)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arix (@UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David8649,

Perhaps we ned to abolish the practice of law then?:-)

It would be a long argument, but I would say that we all believe in the same God, since there is only one God, but we believe different things about him, some truly contradictory, others apparently contradictory but (theoretically) resolvable with sufficient information. And note also, &quot;God&quot; is different from &quot;god&quot;. Classic anti-Christian/anti-religious Category Error #1.

If you ban evangelism, then you are essentially banning Christianity, even those denominations that do not &quot;openly&quot; evangelise. Evangelism is part of the Christian identity, so open evangelism must be allowed if you are sincere about respecting the religious freedom of Christians. The exact method which evangelism ought to be carried out in, however, is a valid point of discussion.

If you simply ban all forms of religious practice, you are violating not only freedom of religion, freedom of speech and freedom of expression, but also most importantly freedom of conscience. All religions have a conscientious core which all their doctrines - even supposedly more esoteric ones - are built up around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David8649,</p>
<p>Perhaps we ned to abolish the practice of law then?:-)</p>
<p>It would be a long argument, but I would say that we all believe in the same God, since there is only one God, but we believe different things about him, some truly contradictory, others apparently contradictory but (theoretically) resolvable with sufficient information. And note also, &#8220;God&#8221; is different from &#8220;god&#8221;. Classic anti-Christian/anti-religious Category Error #1.</p>
<p>If you ban evangelism, then you are essentially banning Christianity, even those denominations that do not &#8220;openly&#8221; evangelise. Evangelism is part of the Christian identity, so open evangelism must be allowed if you are sincere about respecting the religious freedom of Christians. The exact method which evangelism ought to be carried out in, however, is a valid point of discussion.</p>
<p>If you simply ban all forms of religious practice, you are violating not only freedom of religion, freedom of speech and freedom of expression, but also most importantly freedom of conscience. All religions have a conscientious core which all their doctrines &#8211; even supposedly more esoteric ones &#8211; are built up around.</p>
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		<title>By: David8649</title>
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		<dc:creator>David8649</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D 
Feb 11, 2010 23:58

&lt;a href=&quot;http://-/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Oh Tham Eng&lt;/a&gt;
I would love  rony tan to be charged under sedition act. If everything can be done with just apology, later no more job for lawyers :-)
On another note, i do find the sentence ‘may god bless you’ offensive, unless we believe in the same god. From this we can see that, it is indeed very hard to keep religious harmony in check while at the same time allow open evangelism, so i propose singapore law ban the practice of evangelism, and any reference to religion could not be done in public and only for private and make sure that they don’t leak to the public, or simply ban all religious practice problem solved :-)

&lt;strong&gt;100% agree! Need to bring up to Singapore MP! Timely to to make an impact in Singapore if we can get the statistics of figures &amp; facts inclusive responses/feedbacks from onlines website public interviews etc etc as Per Recent Rev Pastor Rony Tan Case! Smile &amp; Cheers ~~~&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D<br />
Feb 11, 2010 23:58</p>
<p><a href="http://-/" rel="nofollow">@Oh Tham Eng</a><br />
I would love  rony tan to be charged under sedition act. If everything can be done with just apology, later no more job for lawyers :-)<br />
On another note, i do find the sentence ‘may god bless you’ offensive, unless we believe in the same god. From this we can see that, it is indeed very hard to keep religious harmony in check while at the same time allow open evangelism, so i propose singapore law ban the practice of evangelism, and any reference to religion could not be done in public and only for private and make sure that they don’t leak to the public, or simply ban all religious practice problem solved :-)</p>
<p><strong>100% agree! Need to bring up to Singapore MP! Timely to to make an impact in Singapore if we can get the statistics of figures &amp; facts inclusive responses/feedbacks from onlines website public interviews etc etc as Per Recent Rev Pastor Rony Tan Case! Smile &amp; Cheers ~~~</strong></p>
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		<title>By: David8649</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Oh Tham Eng,

Though I don&#039;t quite understand much about legal point of view but somehow I support your compassive action.

A Very Happy Chinese Lunar New Year!

David Leong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Oh Tham Eng,</p>
<p>Though I don&#8217;t quite understand much about legal point of view but somehow I support your compassive action.</p>
<p>A Very Happy Chinese Lunar New Year!</p>
<p>David Leong</p>
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		<title>By: KopitiamApek</title>
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		<dc:creator>KopitiamApek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bear. 
Make that 2.

Worry not that no one knows of you; seek to be worth knowing
- Confucious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear.<br />
Make that 2.</p>
<p>Worry not that no one knows of you; seek to be worth knowing<br />
- Confucious</p>
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		<title>By: Bear</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know about everyone on this forum, but I find the postings of Oh Tham Eng quite irritating.  He seem to be in his own world, navel-gazing and wanting to teach people what to do.   (Sorry Mr Oh, don&#039;t take offense.  Just my opinion.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know about everyone on this forum, but I find the postings of Oh Tham Eng quite irritating.  He seem to be in his own world, navel-gazing and wanting to teach people what to do.   (Sorry Mr Oh, don&#8217;t take offense.  Just my opinion.)</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Tham Eng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Tham Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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12/2/10 


To: 
Mr Bala Reddy 
Principal State Counsel 
Head 
State Prosecution Division 
From: Mr Oh Tham Eng 


cc - AG Walter Woon, CP Ng Joo Hee, Mr Wong Kan Seng, PM Lee Venerabe Kwang Sheng, Pastor Rony Tan, Others 


Dear Sir: 

&lt;strong&gt;
AN APPEAL FOR COMPASSION AND WISE ACTION FOR 3 POLY TEENAGERS ARRESTED FOR SEDITION&lt;/strong&gt; 


I am so pleased to be able to write to you again. The previous time as the wise DJ Bala Reddy of the Subordinate Court where you were the trial judge for schoolboy blogger Gan Huai Shi arrested and charged for sedition. This time I wish to let you know in advance I would be putting up an appeal and suggestion to you and the police how I think the sedition of these 3 quarrelling teenagers can be best handled, now that ISD and DPM Wong Kan Seng have so beautifully managed Pastor Rony Tan&#039;s case, which is of course a much more serious one than the trivial spat among 3 insignificant poly teens inadvertently caught for seditious offences. 


So I have attached for your information in Attachment 4 below the feelings on the ground what Singaporeans feel about the case of the arrested teens, and how they correctly felt it should be managed. I am so pleased that you should be the wise and trusted person who would be handling this case as the God-blessed prosecutor, Sir! So I am justified to say in anticipation how lucky the 3 teens are that you are now the Head of State Prosecution Division in the AGC. 


May God bless you and all your loved ones, Sir! 


Majulah Singapura! 
Sincerely, 
Oh Tham Eng





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12/2/10 </p>
<p>To:<br />
Mr Bala Reddy<br />
Principal State Counsel<br />
Head<br />
State Prosecution Division<br />
From: Mr Oh Tham Eng </p>
<p>cc &#8211; AG Walter Woon, CP Ng Joo Hee, Mr Wong Kan Seng, PM Lee Venerabe Kwang Sheng, Pastor Rony Tan, Others </p>
<p>Dear Sir: </p>
<p><strong><br />
AN APPEAL FOR COMPASSION AND WISE ACTION FOR 3 POLY TEENAGERS ARRESTED FOR SEDITION</strong> </p>
<p>I am so pleased to be able to write to you again. The previous time as the wise DJ Bala Reddy of the Subordinate Court where you were the trial judge for schoolboy blogger Gan Huai Shi arrested and charged for sedition. This time I wish to let you know in advance I would be putting up an appeal and suggestion to you and the police how I think the sedition of these 3 quarrelling teenagers can be best handled, now that ISD and DPM Wong Kan Seng have so beautifully managed Pastor Rony Tan&#8217;s case, which is of course a much more serious one than the trivial spat among 3 insignificant poly teens inadvertently caught for seditious offences. </p>
<p>So I have attached for your information in Attachment 4 below the feelings on the ground what Singaporeans feel about the case of the arrested teens, and how they correctly felt it should be managed. I am so pleased that you should be the wise and trusted person who would be handling this case as the God-blessed prosecutor, Sir! So I am justified to say in anticipation how lucky the 3 teens are that you are now the Head of State Prosecution Division in the AGC. </p>
<p>May God bless you and all your loved ones, Sir! </p>
<p>Majulah Singapura!<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Oh Tham Eng</p>
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		<dc:creator>gimme ur left n i give u a right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am convinced singapore has a lot of potential religious fanatics who does not really understand the purpose of going into religion nor its teachings. 

a youtube comment to the video was there are about 12000 members for his congregation.

i feel really said for singapore. why are people so foolish to ridicule another religion? what wisdom ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am convinced singapore has a lot of potential religious fanatics who does not really understand the purpose of going into religion nor its teachings. </p>
<p>a youtube comment to the video was there are about 12000 members for his congregation.</p>
<p>i feel really said for singapore. why are people so foolish to ridicule another religion? what wisdom ?</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@himeji888
So, it is ok to kill if my reason is to defend truth from evil people, i presume evil people are people who can not see the truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@himeji888<br />
So, it is ok to kill if my reason is to defend truth from evil people, i presume evil people are people who can not see the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Tham Eng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/not-your-ordinary-chit-chat-session/comment-page-3/#comment-129629</link>
		<dc:creator>Oh Tham Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 
RALLYING FOR A HOLY VENTURE
 
Hi!
 
I feel it is more effective to write direct to the authorities personally to appeal for the 3 arrested Chinese teens than to create such a ruckus in Internet forums. Please join me to write to them personally via your emails; tell them what are your sentiments; state your reasons, and appeal for their understanding and compassion.
 
To help you to join me in this holy venture, I am displaying their email addresses where you can reach them direct, while there is still time for good citizens to do something. That is what I will be doing soon. 
 
But please be polite and respectful. And let us show forth our best to care and ahare for each other!
 
May God bless us all! Majulah Singapura!
 
Here they are:
 
&quot;Mr Wong Kan Seng&quot; &lt;wong_kan_seng@mha.gov.sg&gt;, 
&quot;Bala Reddy&quot; &lt;bala_reddy@agc.gov.sg&gt;, 
&quot;AG Prof Walter Woon&quot; &lt;audrey_wong@agc.gov.sg&gt;,
&quot;CP Ng Joo Hee&quot;&lt;ng_joo_hee@spf.gov.sg&gt;, 
&quot;Director ISD&quot; &lt;ctc@isd.gov.sg&gt; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <br />
RALLYING FOR A HOLY VENTURE<br />
 <br />
Hi!<br />
 <br />
I feel it is more effective to write direct to the authorities personally to appeal for the 3 arrested Chinese teens than to create such a ruckus in Internet forums. Please join me to write to them personally via your emails; tell them what are your sentiments; state your reasons, and appeal for their understanding and compassion.<br />
 <br />
To help you to join me in this holy venture, I am displaying their email addresses where you can reach them direct, while there is still time for good citizens to do something. That is what I will be doing soon.<br />
 <br />
But please be polite and respectful. And let us show forth our best to care and ahare for each other!<br />
 <br />
May God bless us all! Majulah Singapura!<br />
 <br />
Here they are:<br />
 <br />
&#8220;Mr Wong Kan Seng&#8221; &lt;wong_kan_seng@mha.gov.sg&gt;,<br />
&#8220;Bala Reddy&#8221; &lt;bala_reddy@agc.gov.sg&gt;,<br />
&#8220;AG Prof Walter Woon&#8221; &lt;audrey_wong@agc.gov.sg&gt;,<br />
&#8220;CP Ng Joo Hee&#8221;&lt;ng_joo_hee@spf.gov.sg&gt;,<br />
&#8220;Director ISD&#8221; &lt;ctc@isd.gov.sg&gt;<br />
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		<title>By: about the video</title>
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		<dc:creator>about the video</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKBzyatd880&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKBzyatd880&lt;/a&gt;
at around the 1:22 mark of the video, the pastor invited a worshipper who was said to be an ex-monk and when he announced this, his face and tone was very disrespectful and his followers also laughed at the mention of the term monk.

i like to know what kind of people would mock at people like that? 
i hope they go to heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKBzyatd880" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKBzyatd880</a><br />
at around the 1:22 mark of the video, the pastor invited a worshipper who was said to be an ex-monk and when he announced this, his face and tone was very disrespectful and his followers also laughed at the mention of the term monk.</p>
<p>i like to know what kind of people would mock at people like that?<br />
i hope they go to heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: himeji888</title>
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		<dc:creator>himeji888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sloo
 
Intolerance in the past is not the valid reason to do genocide to 66 millions religious believer in China, or 25 millions Orthodox Christian in Russia. Every criminal in this world also has the same excuse. Their crime are motivated by hate and revenge.
 
That is why atheist and radical Muslims are both the source of world problems. Their moral guidance is always attacking others in the name of revenge. Furthermore, they have no fear of divine judgement since they did not believe it. Their only restriction is law. Once these guys hold the position as country leader they will start to do genocide.
 
We as Christian are told to love our enemies even if they hate us, but we also told to defend truth from evil people. If everybody think like this, the world will be on peace. There are some deviation like witchburning and inquisition. But, we have realized our mistake and apologized, not like our country leader who even never humble to apologize when doing mistake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sloo<br />
 <br />
Intolerance in the past is not the valid reason to do genocide to 66 millions religious believer in China, or 25 millions Orthodox Christian in Russia. Every criminal in this world also has the same excuse. Their crime are motivated by hate and revenge.<br />
 <br />
That is why atheist and radical Muslims are both the source of world problems. Their moral guidance is always attacking others in the name of revenge. Furthermore, they have no fear of divine judgement since they did not believe it. Their only restriction is law. Once these guys hold the position as country leader they will start to do genocide.<br />
 <br />
We as Christian are told to love our enemies even if they hate us, but we also told to defend truth from evil people. If everybody think like this, the world will be on peace. There are some deviation like witchburning and inquisition. But, we have realized our mistake and apologized, not like our country leader who even never humble to apologize when doing mistake</p>
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		<title>By: c-p-k</title>
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		<dc:creator>c-p-k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Guys, this has gone on long enough and everyone has had his
chance to air his views. So let&#039;s call a truce here since it is the
Lunar New Year Season of Joy and Goodwill.
To one and all: 
&lt;strong&gt;
GONG Xi FA CAI&lt;/strong&gt;
 
&lt;strong&gt;Nian Nian You Yu&lt;/strong&gt;
 
&lt;strong&gt;Wan Shi Ru Yi&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; 
&lt;strong&gt;Shen Ti Jian Kang&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys, this has gone on long enough and everyone has had his<br />
chance to air his views. So let&#8217;s call a truce here since it is the<br />
Lunar New Year Season of Joy and Goodwill.<br />
To one and all:<br />
<strong><br />
GONG Xi FA CAI</strong></p>
<p><strong>Nian Nian You Yu</strong></p>
<p><strong>Wan Shi Ru Yi</strong><br />
<strong></strong><br />
<strong>Shen Ti Jian Kang</strong></p>
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		<title>By: kangwei</title>
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		<dc:creator>kangwei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@himeji888 

i gave up on reason, logic and rational, and engage in ad hominem argument because i realised that some people are too dense to open their mind and listen to reason. I dun want to waste my time talking to a wall... I think most atheist agree that it make no sense talking rationally since we have tried and we have fail...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@himeji888 </p>
<p>i gave up on reason, logic and rational, and engage in ad hominem argument because i realised that some people are too dense to open their mind and listen to reason. I dun want to waste my time talking to a wall&#8230; I think most atheist agree that it make no sense talking rationally since we have tried and we have fail&#8230;</p>
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