Comments on: Public housing flats – Singaporeans come first or foreigners? http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/ Singapore's #1 Socio-Political Site Fri, 25 May 2012 04:31:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: TedLow http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-209923 TedLow Mon, 30 May 2011 20:08:11 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-209923 My take - They screwed singaporeans. Not genuinely looking for alternate ways to see if anything can be done for this category of misfortuned singaporeans. Irregardless of defaults and faults point down to this category. Well, my gut feel is the officers on the ground had their hands tied. Their superiors up and up also cover up the issue somehow and tweaked it into negligeable fine prints that somehow when it reaches the very top/ Ministers whom chair the relevant ministries.. The whole issue at hand must have been conveniently blanco out. I sense we must have some religious/volunteering organisations whom are able to chip-in to help. Open up a donation hotline if costs is an issue. I strongly believe we, Singaporeans and the like minded are willing/ sincere enough to donate for a good cause. Rather then wait for the authorities to wake-up because of public outburst and react to beat the bush fire. Some souls may be dangerously dangling between life and death liao. My take – They screwed singaporeans. Not genuinely looking for alternate ways to see if anything can be done for this category of misfortuned singaporeans.

Irregardless of defaults and faults point down to this category. Well, my gut feel is the officers on the ground had their hands tied. Their superiors up and up also cover up the issue somehow and tweaked it into negligeable fine prints that somehow when it reaches the very top/ Ministers whom chair the relevant ministries.. The whole issue at hand must have been conveniently blanco out.

I sense we must have some religious/volunteering organisations whom are able to chip-in to help. Open up a donation hotline if costs is an issue. I strongly believe we, Singaporeans and the like minded are willing/ sincere enough to donate for a good cause.

Rather then wait for the authorities to wake-up because of public outburst and react to beat the bush fire. Some souls may be dangerously dangling between life and death liao.

]]> By: Alex Xia http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-209883 Alex Xia Mon, 30 May 2011 15:37:06 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-209883 The PAP govt has so badly screwed the housing situation, worker salaries and cost of living through their incessant manipulation that Singaporean must abandon the aspiration of being homeowner. I don't see how this aspiration can be sustainable going forwards. So its best to do some reverse brainwashing (which I am sure the PAP propaganda machine is more than equipped to do) before the discontent really mushroom. Foreigners are already squeezing 6 to 1 bedroom in rented HDB apartment with a single toilet! The PAP govt has so badly screwed the housing situation, worker salaries and cost of living through their incessant manipulation that Singaporean must abandon the aspiration of being homeowner. I don’t see how this aspiration can be sustainable going forwards. So its best to do some reverse brainwashing (which I am sure the PAP propaganda machine is more than equipped to do) before the discontent really mushroom. Foreigners are already squeezing 6 to 1 bedroom in rented HDB apartment with a single toilet!

]]> By: edward http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-209594 edward Sun, 29 May 2011 21:10:05 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-209594 so sad that singaporeans do not come first but foreigners. shame on you, PAP so sad that singaporeans do not come first but foreigners. shame on you, PAP

]]> By: Mrs Peanuts Goh http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-159333 Mrs Peanuts Goh Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:18:58 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-159333 This is Singapore la! Whoever got more money comes first. Why you think our leaders complain their million dollar salaries is still too low? This is Singapore la! Whoever got more money comes first. Why you think our leaders complain their million dollar salaries is still too low?

]]> By: No lack of sophistry from the government concerning the homeless | Sgpolitics.net http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-143061 No lack of sophistry from the government concerning the homeless | Sgpolitics.net Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:58:40 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-143061 [...] Exacerbating the plight of the homeless is the fact that the government continually turns public housing facilities that could be used to shelter them into profit making entities used to provide accommodation to foreign workers and foreign students instead. (See here.) [...] [...] Exacerbating the plight of the homeless is the fact that the government continually turns public housing facilities that could be used to shelter them into profit making entities used to provide accommodation to foreign workers and foreign students instead. (See here.) [...]

]]> By: whoincharges http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-129487 whoincharges Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:49:30 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129487 [i]<a href="?cid=129118" rel="nofollow">againsomeone</a> Feb 10, 2010 11:26 http://www.mapcrow.info/Distance_between_London_UK_and_Kent_UK.html[/i] just in case you are too stupid to find the distance...remember it not the ^capital of kent.. it the seacost(france is even nearer) where barges can be docked.. [i]againsomeone
Feb 10, 2010 11:26
http://www.mapcrow.info/Distance_between_London_UK_and_Kent_UK.html/i
just in case you are too stupid to find the distance…remember it not the ^capital of kent..
it the seacost(france is even nearer) where barges can be docked..

]]> By: whoincharges http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-129485 whoincharges Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:45:01 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129485 [i] <a href="?cid=129118" rel="nofollow">againsomeone</a> Feb 10, 2010 11:26 To whoisincharge, the fact is there is subsidized housing that you stated wasn’t the case, that is all. When making claims it does pay to do some research beforehand as not to look like a fool later. BTW, it’s not like FW dormitories in SG are in CBD or Orchard road either [/i] hav you check the map/distances between kent and london? and if you had READ it careFOOLEE..it was a domintory for the foreign import coalmine workers not YOUR odinary bangala/china kopitiam/karaoki waitin staff... and you want to compare the distances between orchard road and serangoon garden choom choom? ~zhee~ talkin about stupidlity do you need to poll the audiences here? and do you know how much would british rail charged for a returned ticket from kent to charing cross? p.s. remember british rail is not part of LTA(london tube) networks/fares... [i]
againsomeone
Feb 10, 2010 11:26

To whoisincharge, the fact is there is subsidized housing that you stated wasn’t the case, that is all. When making claims it does pay to do some research beforehand as not to look like a fool later. BTW, it’s not like FW dormitories in SG are in CBD or Orchard road either [/i]

hav you check the map/distances between kent and london? and if you had READ it careFOOLEE..it was a domintory for the foreign import coalmine workers not YOUR odinary bangala/china kopitiam/karaoki waitin staff…
and you want to compare the distances between orchard road and serangoon garden choom choom?
~zhee~
talkin about stupidlity do you need to poll the audiences here? and do you know how much would british rail charged for a returned ticket from kent to charing cross? p.s. remember british rail is not part of LTA(london tube) networks/fares…

]]> By: Goh Meng Seng http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-129262 Goh Meng Seng Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:36:20 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129262 M Suhaimi & all, I have been through the process of being "citizen reporter" during GE 1997 & 2001, engaged in charity organization fund raising effort and now, politics. I would say that if you want to "NEGOTIATE" a better deal with the state (government), you will need ALL three of them: the Media, the NGOs (social workers, charities etc) and the politicians. The idea is simple. If you want to get the real work done for the needy, you will need the NGOs or social workers to take on the front line first engagement. The Media will provide the important and necessary information for dissemination so that the citizens are informed of the social problems that exist. TOC has played a very good role here. But the government could just ignore all this or just pay lip service to the NGOs' demands. The only way to "put the spurs into the government's hides" is political competition. This is because all ruling parties in the world are afraid to lose their power. Even in a "semi-democratic" Singapore,  the ruling party PAP is still afraid to lose votes during the GE. The linkages from the Media reporting, getting the NGOs to negotiate terms with the state with the support of opposition party members as a threat to their power base, is the best option for extracting the best deal out from the state. Of course, we are reasonable people. It is only when such unreasonable things happening in our society would make our blood boil. The balance of power in parliament is very important for the people to negotiate terms with the government. If you are in a country ruled by dictators, they won't even blink even if the media make noise. They just thumb you down, sweep away the inconvenient truth and life still goes on as usual. We are in a stage of social-political development that is delicate and important for the future of Singapore. We should not blindly brush off the important impact that the balance of power within the parliament could bring to our children. The impact will bring about more open and accountable governance. Goh Meng Seng   M Suhaimi & all,
I have been through the process of being “citizen reporter” during GE 1997 & 2001, engaged in charity organization fund raising effort and now, politics.
I would say that if you want to “NEGOTIATE” a better deal with the state (government), you will need ALL three of them: the Media, the NGOs (social workers, charities etc) and the politicians.
The idea is simple. If you want to get the real work done for the needy, you will need the NGOs or social workers to take on the front line first engagement. The Media will provide the important and necessary information for dissemination so that the citizens are informed of the social problems that exist. TOC has played a very good role here. But the government could just ignore all this or just pay lip service to the NGOs’ demands.
The only way to “put the spurs into the government’s hides” is political competition. This is because all ruling parties in the world are afraid to lose their power. Even in a “semi-democratic” Singapore,  the ruling party PAP is still afraid to lose votes during the GE.
The linkages from the Media reporting, getting the NGOs to negotiate terms with the state with the support of opposition party members as a threat to their power base, is the best option for extracting the best deal out from the state.
Of course, we are reasonable people. It is only when such unreasonable things happening in our society would make our blood boil.
The balance of power in parliament is very important for the people to negotiate terms with the government. If you are in a country ruled by dictators, they won’t even blink even if the media make noise. They just thumb you down, sweep away the inconvenient truth and life still goes on as usual.
We are in a stage of social-political development that is delicate and important for the future of Singapore. We should not blindly brush off the important impact that the balance of power within the parliament could bring to our children. The impact will bring about more open and accountable governance.
Goh Meng Seng
 

]]> By: smallfly http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-2/#comment-129127 smallfly Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:49:50 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129127 <em><strong>"No one will be left behind"</strong></em> yet, hdb using Taxpayers' money and fully funded by the state is going all out to short-change the gullible and credulous main-street-men. What a farting statement proclaim by this bunch of idiotic million-dollar nerds? It is more a farce than political proclamation! My dear Mr. Leong and Mr. Andrew Loh, I would like to add one more point to highlight the shot-coming or simply a serious flaw in the hdb’s valuation policy as well as short-changing on the lessee in hdb’s *compulsory acquisition* of flat when calculating the compensation value, as under “existing policy” hdb based on the valuation report produced by the approved valuer under the approved valuer list solely and discreetly decided by hdb to compensate the lessee when acquiring his flat.   In valuation industry, it is an <em><strong>“unwritten common understanding”</strong></em> among the “approved cum certified valuers” that the value of the hdb flat will be <em><strong>marked down substantially</strong></em> when the “production” of valuation report is being instructed by hdb officers for the “<strong><em>purpose”</em></strong> of compulsory acquisition! As if the valuer values the flat on the higher end it will appear that the valuer is short changing hdb which is a public housing authority directly under the charge of ministry of national development! <em><strong>In short, how dare you to “cheat” the “state”?</strong></em>   Last but not least, will different certified valuers produce the <em><strong>**same**</strong></em> valuation value when valuing the same property? Since, this is the case, which valuer’s valuation report should be adopted when compensating the lessee? Is it by drawing lot to see whether the lessee is lucky or unlucky to have his flat values higher or lower in relation to the appointment of relevant approved valuer? Is the lessee over or under compensated when different valuers have <em><strong>different opinions</strong></em> on the value of the property to be valued? In short, mnd and hdb should check out what is the true meaning of compulsory acquisition and compensation amount prior to adopting the valuer’s opinion!   As I emphasis again and again, the valuation report for a property is <em><strong>JUST the “opinion”</strong></em> of the certified valuer and nothing else! So, the mnd and hdb is adopting someone’s opinions to compensate the lessee,<em><strong> is it fair? Is it logical? Is it scientific? </strong></em>   In short the blind is leading the blind for so many “donkey” years? In view of the above, do you opine that hdb needs a total re-invention in order to remain relevant in this modern and scientific society? Oh, dear, to a larger extent the whole valuation industry! I hope I am not offending anyone in this industry! Keep my fingers cross! Be objective with no prejudice! “No one will be left behind” yet, hdb using Taxpayers’ money and fully funded by the state is going all out to short-change the gullible and credulous main-street-men. What a farting statement proclaim by this bunch of idiotic million-dollar nerds? It is more a farce than political proclamation!
My dear Mr. Leong and Mr. Andrew Loh, I would like to add one more point to highlight the shot-coming or simply a serious flaw in the hdb’s valuation policy as well as short-changing on the lessee in hdb’s *compulsory acquisition* of flat when calculating the compensation value, as under “existing policy” hdb based on the valuation report produced by the approved valuer under the approved valuer list solely and discreetly decided by hdb to compensate the lessee when acquiring his flat.
 
In valuation industry, it is an “unwritten common understanding” among the “approved cum certified valuers” that the value of the hdb flat will be marked down substantially when the “production” of valuation report is being instructed by hdb officers for the “purpose” of compulsory acquisition! As if the valuer values the flat on the higher end it will appear that the valuer is short changing hdb which is a public housing authority directly under the charge of ministry of national development! In short, how dare you to “cheat” the “state”?
 
Last but not least, will different certified valuers produce the **same** valuation value when valuing the same property? Since, this is the case, which valuer’s valuation report should be adopted when compensating the lessee? Is it by drawing lot to see whether the lessee is lucky or unlucky to have his flat values higher or lower in relation to the appointment of relevant approved valuer? Is the lessee over or under compensated when different valuers have different opinions on the value of the property to be valued? In short, mnd and hdb should check out what is the true meaning of compulsory acquisition and compensation amount prior to adopting the valuer’s opinion!
 
As I emphasis again and again, the valuation report for a property is JUST the “opinion” of the certified valuer and nothing else! So, the mnd and hdb is adopting someone’s opinions to compensate the lessee, is it fair? Is it logical? Is it scientific?
 
In short the blind is leading the blind for so many “donkey” years? In view of the above, do you opine that hdb needs a total re-invention in order to remain relevant in this modern and scientific society? Oh, dear, to a larger extent the whole valuation industry!
I hope I am not offending anyone in this industry! Keep my fingers cross! Be objective with no prejudice!

]]> By: againsomeone http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-129118 againsomeone Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:26:29 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129118 To whoisincharge, the fact is there is subsidized housing that you stated wasn't the case, that is all. When making claims it does pay to do some research beforehand as not to look like a fool later. BTW, it's not like FW dormitories in SG are in CBD or Orchard road either and besides I would rather have FWs next to my place than any of these ex-convicts or druggies. To whoisincharge, the fact is there is subsidized housing that you stated wasn’t the case, that is all. When making claims it does pay to do some research beforehand as not to look like a fool later. BTW, it’s not like FW dormitories in SG are in CBD or Orchard road either and besides I would rather have FWs next to my place than any of these ex-convicts or druggies.

]]> By: alamakwhome? http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-129073 alamakwhome? Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:25:19 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129073 [i] despite having to pay the same taxes that the rest of us pay.[/i] wow! now you expect foreigners to have a tax discounts as well? in britain i also pay 33% weekly taxes and i don't even qualified for unemployment handouts... [i] despite having to pay the same taxes that the rest of us pay.[/i]

wow! now you expect foreigners to have a tax discounts as well? in britain i also pay 33% weekly taxes and i don’t even qualified for unemployment handouts…

]]> By: HDB HAS ZERO COMPASSION http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-129071 HDB HAS ZERO COMPASSION Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:18:22 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129071 <strong> HDB HAS ZERO COMPASSION</strong> <strong> </strong> <strong>Can see from HDB CEO's REFUSAL to answer calls to help </strong> [nearly 3 months] a handicap man stuck at home due to a cock-up LUP that still requires residents to climb stairs to get to the lift. [despite postings on TOC forum, REACH forum, TODAYonline forum, ST forum, TR forum, HWZ-CAL forum n afew others] <a href="http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC091126-0000059/Direct-lift-access-not-always-possible%E2%80%93HDB" rel="nofollow">http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC091126-0000059/Direct-lift-access-not-always-possible%E2%80%93HDB</a>   <a href="http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/YourDiscussionCorner/tabid/117/ptid/414/page/2147483647/threadid/2848/forumtype/posts/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/YourDiscussionCorner/tabid/117/ptid/414/page/2147483647/threadid/2848/forumtype/posts/Default.aspx</a> [page 10 onwards]   <a href="http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=27231" rel="nofollow">http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=27231</a> Also recently highlighted again at ST forum  <a href="http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=29884" rel="nofollow">http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=29884</a>  HDB HAS ZERO COMPASSION

 

Can see from HDB CEO’s REFUSAL to answer calls to help
 [nearly 3 months] a handicap man stuck at home due to a cock-up LUP that still requires residents to climb stairs to get to the lift.
[despite postings on TOC forum, REACH forum, TODAYonline forum, ST forum, TR forum, HWZ-CAL forum n afew others]
http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC091126-0000059/Direct-lift-access-not-always-possible%E2%80%93HDB
 
http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/YourDiscussionCorner/tabid/117/ptid/414/page/2147483647/threadid/2848/forumtype/posts/Default.aspx
[page 10 onwards]
 
http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=27231
Also recently highlighted again at ST forum
 http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=29884

]]> By: whoincharged http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-129070 whoincharged Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:16:58 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129070 i]whoincharge – my question is – if you were working in London and enjoying the press freedom and freedom of speech, multi-party system etc there, why did you return to Singapore?[/i] i came home to singapoor to be a prodical son who regretted leavin home beside i missed my grandma’s constant naggin and i was TOO late for her funeral sendoff simply because the damn britih home office(immigration department) was late in returnin my passport after stampin all the paperworks for a permanant residence status…. well beside that i was BORED in london…fightin with hongkies and vietcongs ain’t my idea of havin a good time.. the last good time i had was doin a menan a troise with annabel chong inc…before AIDs came into the picture… you think it fun tryin to slang liked a east side cockney pretend-2-b-cho w angmor? i]whoincharge – my question is – if you were working in London and enjoying the press freedom and freedom of speech, multi-party system etc there, why did you return to Singapore?[/i]
i came home to singapoor to be a prodical son who regretted leavin home beside i missed my grandma’s constant naggin and i was TOO late for her funeral sendoff simply because the damn britih home office(immigration department) was late in returnin my passport after stampin all the paperworks for a permanant residence status….
well beside that i was BORED in london…fightin with hongkies and vietcongs ain’t my idea of havin a good time.. the last good time i had was doin a menan a troise with annabel chong inc…before AIDs came into the picture…
you think it fun tryin to slang liked a east side cockney pretend-2-b-cho w angmor?

]]> By: whoincharge http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-129068 whoincharge Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:08:23 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129068 [i]To whoisincharge, well I guess you didn’t look around, here is a dormitory provided by British authorities to foreign workers,[/i] hve you ever been to kent? bside bein a bloomin bloody tourist? do you even know how is kent like? if you are thinkin of superman clark kent who used to smoke a pack of kent cigarettes then you won't be wrong @ all.... kent is the most BORIN province in southeast britain.. remembered the battle of britain? even the allied troops can't wait to be airborne and killed in france than campin in kent.... now you know why it used former prison barges to house cheap foreign labour from the poorer east ex-russian migrants.... [i]To whoisincharge, well I guess you didn’t look around, here is a dormitory provided by British authorities to foreign workers,[/i]

hve you ever been to kent? bside bein a bloomin bloody tourist? do you even know how is kent like?
if you are thinkin of superman clark kent who used to smoke a pack of kent cigarettes then you won’t be wrong @ all….
kent is the most BORIN province in southeast britain.. remembered the battle of britain? even the allied troops can’t wait to be airborne and killed in france than campin in kent….
now you know why it used former prison barges to house cheap foreign labour from the poorer east ex-russian migrants….

]]> By: No One Will Be Left Behind [ JUST LEFT ASIDE TO DIE ] ; Singaporeans Comes First For Govt [ FIRST TO BE LEFT BEHIND ] http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-129066 No One Will Be Left Behind [ JUST LEFT ASIDE TO DIE ] ; Singaporeans Comes First For Govt [ FIRST TO BE LEFT BEHIND ] Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:59:16 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129066 ..................................................     No One Will Be Left Behind [ JUST LEFT ASIDE TO DIE ] <a href="http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html</a>   Singaporeans Comes First For Govt [ FIRST TO BE LEFT BEHIND ] <a href="http://news.asiaone.com/News/the%2BStraits%2BTimes/Story/A1Story20100101-189132.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.asiaone.com/News/the%2BStraits%2BTimes/Story/A1Story20100101-189132.html</a> …………………………………………..
 
 
No One Will Be Left Behind [ JUST LEFT ASIDE TO DIE ]
http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html
 
Singaporeans Comes First For Govt [ FIRST TO BE LEFT BEHIND ]
http://news.asiaone.com/News/the%2BStraits%2BTimes/Story/A1Story20100101-189132.html

]]> By: No One Will Be Left Behind [ JUST LEFT ASIDE TO DIE ] ; Singaporeans Comes First For Govt [ FIRST TO BE LEFT BEHIND ] http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-129065 No One Will Be Left Behind [ JUST LEFT ASIDE TO DIE ] ; Singaporeans Comes First For Govt [ FIRST TO BE LEFT BEHIND ] Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:55:36 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129065 ..................................................     No One Will Be Left Behind [ JUST LEFT ASIDE TO DIE ] <a href="http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html</a>   Singaporeans Comes First For Govt [ FIRST TO BE LEFT BEHIND ] <a href="http://news.asiaone.com/News/the%2BStraits%2BTimes/Story/A1Story20100101-189132.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.asiaone.com/News/the%2BStraits%2BTimes/Story/A1Story20100101-189132.html</a> …………………………………………..
 
 
No One Will Be Left Behind [ JUST LEFT ASIDE TO DIE ]
http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html
 
Singaporeans Comes First For Govt [ FIRST TO BE LEFT BEHIND ]
http://news.asiaone.com/News/the%2BStraits%2BTimes/Story/A1Story20100101-189132.html

]]> By: The SS http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-129005 The SS Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:54:10 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-129005 I hope the electorate will wake up to this : If we don't do something with our Votes this time, We will continue to be Replaced, Misplaced and Displaced. Aren't the signs clear enough Singapore? I hope the electorate will wake up to this :

If we don’t do something with our Votes this time, We will continue to be Replaced, Misplaced and Displaced.

Aren’t the signs clear enough Singapore?

]]> By: againsomeone http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-128991 againsomeone Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:56:16 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-128991 To whoisincharge, well I guess you didn't look around, here is a dormitory provided by British authorities to foreign workers, http://subtopia.blogspot.com/2009/02/floating-labor-camps-of-future-now.html To whoisincharge, well I guess you didn’t look around, here is a dormitory provided by British authorities to foreign workers, http://subtopia.blogspot.com/2009/02/floating-labor-camps-of-future-now.html

]]> By: Change http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-128975 Change Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:09:49 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-128975 Your vote a party to govern, to provide housing, jobs ..etc etc. But instead , they pay themselves millions and you have homeless people in sg. Then i would say this homeless people deserve it, would that be right. Your vote a party to govern, to provide housing, jobs ..etc etc. But instead , they pay themselves millions and you have homeless people in sg. Then i would say this homeless people deserve it, would that be right.

]]> By: Anyone http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/public-rental-flats-singaporeans-come-first/comment-page-1/#comment-128967 Anyone Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:48:56 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=19613#comment-128967 whoincharge - my question is - if you were working in London and enjoying the press freedom and freedom of speech, multi-party system etc there, why did you return to Singapore? And if you have any friends/acquaintance who are PRs, I'm sure they'd tell you how PRs are treated differently than SCs. I know my colleagues who are PRs feel that they are discriminated in many ways, despite having to pay the same taxes that the rest of us pay. whoincharge – my question is – if you were working in London and enjoying the press freedom and freedom of speech, multi-party system etc there, why did you return to Singapore? And if you have any friends/acquaintance who are PRs, I’m sure they’d tell you how PRs are treated differently than SCs. I know my colleagues who are PRs feel that they are discriminated in many ways, despite having to pay the same taxes that the rest of us pay.

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