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		<title>By: jewellery</title>
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		<dc:creator>jewellery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>hydrowhey reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dewey beach house rentals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dewey beach house rentals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 00:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you little slagawag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you little slagawag</p>
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		<title>By: It is time for change, Singapore &#171; Public Housing in Singapore</title>
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		<dc:creator>It is time for change, Singapore &#171; Public Housing in Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 12:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are widely covered by Gerald Giam, Goh Meng Seng, Leong Sze Hian, Ng Kok Lim, Tan Kin Lian and Andrew Loh, among many others. I shall not repeat what was already [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are widely covered by Gerald Giam, Goh Meng Seng, Leong Sze Hian, Ng Kok Lim, Tan Kin Lian and Andrew Loh, among many others. I shall not repeat what was already [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can i know who is the contracter of this building??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can i know who is the contracter of this building??</p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Singaporeans...

Whats the point of moaning and groaning on the internet forum? What happens when elections come? All of you will vote for the pap. This has been happening for years and years. 

There is no point posting threads and threads on forums. Its nt going to change the situation. Its time to act. The government has gone too far and they need reminding that they are the Peoples servant. 

So what are all of you gonna do, is the question...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Singaporeans&#8230;</p>
<p>Whats the point of moaning and groaning on the internet forum? What happens when elections come? All of you will vote for the pap. This has been happening for years and years. </p>
<p>There is no point posting threads and threads on forums. Its nt going to change the situation. Its time to act. The government has gone too far and they need reminding that they are the Peoples servant. </p>
<p>So what are all of you gonna do, is the question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me tell those who want the PAP out. There is no way the PAP will be out as long as the old man keep his control. If you have a dog standing  on the PAP banner the dog will definitely win I will assure you that. It&#039;s no point, don&#039;t waste your breath, there are so many people in Singapore who have no back bones and will definitely vote for PAP whatever animal stands under the PAP banner.  We Singaporeans are well frogs without knowing the meaning of freedom.  Goodluck to all those freedom fighters. The impossible will only be possible after the old man had died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me tell those who want the PAP out. There is no way the PAP will be out as long as the old man keep his control. If you have a dog standing  on the PAP banner the dog will definitely win I will assure you that. It&#8217;s no point, don&#8217;t waste your breath, there are so many people in Singapore who have no back bones and will definitely vote for PAP whatever animal stands under the PAP banner.  We Singaporeans are well frogs without knowing the meaning of freedom.  Goodluck to all those freedom fighters. The impossible will only be possible after the old man had died.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS IS MADNESS!!!

Quote from LKY.

Yep he should repeat it after me again... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS MADNESS!!!</p>
<p>Quote from LKY.</p>
<p>Yep he should repeat it after me again&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: FeverGUY</title>
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		<dc:creator>FeverGUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boon Lay rental flats no longer under HDB. They are sold to LHN Group to sublet to Singaporeans and Foreigners at very high price. Really money minded HDB, something only MBT can accomplish. His trademark moves. Top money spinning machine for LKY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boon Lay rental flats no longer under HDB. They are sold to LHN Group to sublet to Singaporeans and Foreigners at very high price. Really money minded HDB, something only MBT can accomplish. His trademark moves. Top money spinning machine for LKY.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ brainwash

singaporeans first, for LIP SERVICE only

for other services e.g. HDB, SERS, PRs, foreigners come first</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ brainwash</p>
<p>singaporeans first, for LIP SERVICE only</p>
<p>for other services e.g. HDB, SERS, PRs, foreigners come first</p>
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		<title>By: brainwash</title>
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		<dc:creator>brainwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>renting out these SERS blocks  to foreigners and then building blocks in Pasir Ris and Tampines to rent out to Singaporeans? Wouldn&#039;t it make more sense, more effective and faster to just rent these SERS to Singaporeans? But of course, by doing so HDB will not make the profit that they have planned. 

Singaporeans first, really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>renting out these SERS blocks  to foreigners and then building blocks in Pasir Ris and Tampines to rent out to Singaporeans? Wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense, more effective and faster to just rent these SERS to Singaporeans? But of course, by doing so HDB will not make the profit that they have planned. </p>
<p>Singaporeans first, really?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of offering a email address for HDB or EMAS to repy (I am sure they would not), could  TOC consider pester HDB or MND (and i mean really pester..  reminders after reminders)  for an offical reply  ??

It would be interesting to see how they will explain this.  If there is no reply, then it is really telling and surely heads must roll ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of offering a email address for HDB or EMAS to repy (I am sure they would not), could  TOC consider pester HDB or MND (and i mean really pester..  reminders after reminders)  for an offical reply  ??</p>
<p>It would be interesting to see how they will explain this.  If there is no reply, then it is really telling and surely heads must roll &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: yaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>yaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh...

why all these multi-million dollars donkeys just don&#039;t listen with their ears, but with their butts huh???  have they got any heart or not?  let&#039;s reverse it , if their family or their own children are those homeless people, will they totally ignore??? 

ask their conscience??? will they really ignore??? i believe that these people will get divine retribution for all the evil and wicked things that they done.  chinese always have a saying :  you reap what u sow. so eventually if there is any ministar who is reading this page, they better be prepared for a divine retribution that is going to happen in their and also their families lives too!!! mark my words!!!

IT WILL SURELY HAPPEN!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh&#8230;</p>
<p>why all these multi-million dollars donkeys just don&#8217;t listen with their ears, but with their butts huh???  have they got any heart or not?  let&#8217;s reverse it , if their family or their own children are those homeless people, will they totally ignore??? </p>
<p>ask their conscience??? will they really ignore??? i believe that these people will get divine retribution for all the evil and wicked things that they done.  chinese always have a saying :  you reap what u sow. so eventually if there is any ministar who is reading this page, they better be prepared for a divine retribution that is going to happen in their and also their families lives too!!! mark my words!!!</p>
<p>IT WILL SURELY HAPPEN!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Manchuria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manchuria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just cant stand it that all these PRS are taking up our flats... causing the market prices to soar like shit. im homeless n got stuck in a rut. sold off 5 room flat in recession n for 3yrs now, still left hanging cos the damn 3 room house prices soared even higher than the cost of the 5 room flat bought. sheesh~. cant wait to take my $ n get out frm here once i grad man.

i cant wait for change in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just cant stand it that all these PRS are taking up our flats&#8230; causing the market prices to soar like shit. im homeless n got stuck in a rut. sold off 5 room flat in recession n for 3yrs now, still left hanging cos the damn 3 room house prices soared even higher than the cost of the 5 room flat bought. sheesh~. cant wait to take my $ n get out frm here once i grad man.</p>
<p>i cant wait for change in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Singaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mah Bow Tan can talk anyway he likes because he knows he is MM Lee blue eye boy. Last time when Singaporeans ask for cycling lane he said not enough land in Singapore to build cycling lane. Now some other MP took over and we see cycling lanes being built all around. Wow, suddenly Singapore grew more land already huh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mah Bow Tan can talk anyway he likes because he knows he is MM Lee blue eye boy. Last time when Singaporeans ask for cycling lane he said not enough land in Singapore to build cycling lane. Now some other MP took over and we see cycling lanes being built all around. Wow, suddenly Singapore grew more land already huh!</p>
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		<title>By: rowdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>rowdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>City of Possibilities.......for non-S&#039;poreans!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City of Possibilities&#8230;&#8230;.for non-S&#8217;poreans!!!</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Work Camps for foreigners -&gt; Singapore is turning into Nazi Germany under Dictator LEE KUAN YEW

http://fashionablefacistdictator.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Work Camps for foreigners -&gt; Singapore is turning into Nazi Germany under Dictator LEE KUAN YEW</p>
<p><a href="http://fashionablefacistdictator.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://fashionablefacistdictator.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: BoyNextDoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoyNextDoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
twasher
Feb 5, 2010 0:54

Another thing that would be interesting to find out about JTC’s SHiFT scheme is whether the rent they offered is below market rates. If so, JTC would be effectively subsidizing the rents of foreign talent while forcing Singaporeans who need to rent onto the free market. Here are screenshots I took of the current flats available under that scheme:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I used to rent 3room flat in Tanglin Halt  form JTC SHiFT but last year they want me to pay SGD15xx/month. Because of this I buy 4room flat in woodlands. Take loan for 20years with SGD8xx/month. The way I look it no such thing as &quot;real free market in Singapore&quot;. I think because some Policy maker make decision than the renting flat go lie crazy.</description>
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twasher<br />
Feb 5, 2010 0:54</p>
<p>Another thing that would be interesting to find out about JTC’s SHiFT scheme is whether the rent they offered is below market rates. If so, JTC would be effectively subsidizing the rents of foreign talent while forcing Singaporeans who need to rent onto the free market. Here are screenshots I took of the current flats available under that scheme:</p>
<p>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>I used to rent 3room flat in Tanglin Halt  form JTC SHiFT but last year they want me to pay SGD15xx/month. Because of this I buy 4room flat in woodlands. Take loan for 20years with SGD8xx/month. The way I look it no such thing as &#8220;real free market in Singapore&#8221;. I think because some Policy maker make decision than the renting flat go lie crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorwho</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorwho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i totally lost faith in HDB and PAP, and hope my $ is still in CPF :(

FT compete jobs with locals, resulted from PAP policy.

now, opposition party fight seats with PAP, it is eye for an eye.

time to change for the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally lost faith in HDB and PAP, and hope my $ is still in CPF :(</p>
<p>FT compete jobs with locals, resulted from PAP policy.</p>
<p>now, opposition party fight seats with PAP, it is eye for an eye.</p>
<p>time to change for the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Zefly (aka Joshua Chiang)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zefly (aka Joshua Chiang)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone,

Just because most people would not be willing to take up your &#039;radical thought&#039; doesn&#039;t mean it is an issue they shouldn&#039;t care about. Ever since the story broke, we&#039;ve had people offering donations, students offering their time etc for the homeless... that is care and concern enough. 

Two, you mentioned greed. Sure, it is only human nature to want to profit, especially from something you work very hard for. Now Singaporeans get blamed (no less!) by the government for the spike in prices etc. Maybe you wanna consider who are the people ramming home the home-is-your-best-asset message all these while. 

Just to digress a bit. 

Adjusting for inflation and wage increases over the years, on average it takes a person five to six times longer (ie - 30 years) to pay off his mortgage of an HDB flat than a person working a similar job in the &#039;70s would need to. (5-6 years)

I think people are waking up to the fact that it is more in their interest to have cheaper flats that they do not have to slog so hard for just for that potential $100-200,000 profit 30 years down the road where one may possibly have died from cancer and hypertension for having worked so hard anyway.</description>
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<p>Just because most people would not be willing to take up your &#8216;radical thought&#8217; doesn&#8217;t mean it is an issue they shouldn&#8217;t care about. Ever since the story broke, we&#8217;ve had people offering donations, students offering their time etc for the homeless&#8230; that is care and concern enough. </p>
<p>Two, you mentioned greed. Sure, it is only human nature to want to profit, especially from something you work very hard for. Now Singaporeans get blamed (no less!) by the government for the spike in prices etc. Maybe you wanna consider who are the people ramming home the home-is-your-best-asset message all these while. </p>
<p>Just to digress a bit. </p>
<p>Adjusting for inflation and wage increases over the years, on average it takes a person five to six times longer (ie &#8211; 30 years) to pay off his mortgage of an HDB flat than a person working a similar job in the &#8217;70s would need to. (5-6 years)</p>
<p>I think people are waking up to the fact that it is more in their interest to have cheaper flats that they do not have to slog so hard for just for that potential $100-200,000 profit 30 years down the road where one may possibly have died from cancer and hypertension for having worked so hard anyway.</p>
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