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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My answer to our government - Normal citizens feed the government and their SCHOLARS. The rest are grass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My answer to our government &#8211; Normal citizens feed the government and their SCHOLARS. The rest are grass</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore for quite a few years has had a policy of quantity not quality , and I am sorry to say efficiency in most areas is very very low .
And as far as Ministerial salaries goes , Singapore is a lauging stock , ask people in many nations .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore for quite a few years has had a policy of quantity not quality , and I am sorry to say efficiency in most areas is very very low .<br />
And as far as Ministerial salaries goes , Singapore is a lauging stock , ask people in many nations .</p>
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		<title>By: huh</title>
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		<dc:creator>huh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@FeverGuy what live telecast of parliament, and can judge by &#039;cover&#039; meh D;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FeverGuy what live telecast of parliament, and can judge by &#8216;cover&#8217; meh D;</p>
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		<title>By: FeverGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>FeverGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think paying them $11000 every month seems to be a torture to our MPs for just a short session in parliament. How much more they want before their face can brighten up in a LIVE Telecast of the parliament session? How much more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think paying them $11000 every month seems to be a torture to our MPs for just a short session in parliament. How much more they want before their face can brighten up in a LIVE Telecast of the parliament session? How much more?</p>
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		<title>By: FeverGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>FeverGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look at some of the MPs in the parliament, the way they sit and posture seems to be telling that they are not interested at all to hear what FM had to say. Their faces shows non interest like a class of students listening to a boring history lessons. Our country just barely struggled thru a recession, with a balloning budget expenses, and MPs are damn not even bothered to put up a show. At least, no one is sleeping  now. Live telecast is a good way to catch napping MPs and totally BO CHAP face MPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look at some of the MPs in the parliament, the way they sit and posture seems to be telling that they are not interested at all to hear what FM had to say. Their faces shows non interest like a class of students listening to a boring history lessons. Our country just barely struggled thru a recession, with a balloning budget expenses, and MPs are damn not even bothered to put up a show. At least, no one is sleeping  now. Live telecast is a good way to catch napping MPs and totally BO CHAP face MPs.</p>
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		<title>By: no logic</title>
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		<dc:creator>no logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>typo error, &quot;for example by importing millions of talents to fill up this country..&quot; shud be read as &quot;if, for example by importing millions of talents to fill up this country..&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typo error, &#8220;for example by importing millions of talents to fill up this country..&#8221; shud be read as &#8220;if, for example by importing millions of talents to fill up this country..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: no logic</title>
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		<dc:creator>no logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally i dun mind if they get 10 times more pay provided they deliver 10 times more, to singaporeans that is and not to anybody else. With these foreign workers, and the locals not protected when they are displaced from their work due to the open competition, i would say that a lot is lacking to say the least. And the way their pay is peg seem counter productive to me, for example by importing millions of talents to fill up this country and without concern for domestic events and the effects to the locals, they could have reaped the benefits of growth and double their pay in an instance. The fact that their pay is pegged to economic outputs instead of human welfare, lies the root of the problem; yet even if they knows about the irony of their peg, and obviously they should have, yet who really cares about it. That is what bothers me and I believe I am not alone in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally i dun mind if they get 10 times more pay provided they deliver 10 times more, to singaporeans that is and not to anybody else. With these foreign workers, and the locals not protected when they are displaced from their work due to the open competition, i would say that a lot is lacking to say the least. And the way their pay is peg seem counter productive to me, for example by importing millions of talents to fill up this country and without concern for domestic events and the effects to the locals, they could have reaped the benefits of growth and double their pay in an instance. The fact that their pay is pegged to economic outputs instead of human welfare, lies the root of the problem; yet even if they knows about the irony of their peg, and obviously they should have, yet who really cares about it. That is what bothers me and I believe I am not alone in that.</p>
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		<title>By: Netizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Netizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Singapore Govt is worth my 2 big balls. Even if you were to remove my 2 big balls, I can still live. So that&#039;s how much it is worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Singapore Govt is worth my 2 big balls. Even if you were to remove my 2 big balls, I can still live. So that&#8217;s how much it is worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Michael Teo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Michael Teo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way they can justify their cut-throat salaries !  Basing on an average salary of $ 3,000 per day per Minister, what value have they added to justify that kind of salaries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way they can justify their cut-throat salaries !  Basing on an average salary of $ 3,000 per day per Minister, what value have they added to justify that kind of salaries?</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/// Nonetheless, we ought to recognise the importance of quality logic and foresight in governance, such as those displayed by MM Lee in the pre- and post-independence (minus Operation Coldstore, which was an outrage in my humble opinion). There is sufficient evidence to claim that the initial management of local housing and education by MM Lee’s government provided an impetus for the growth of our country. This allowed the country to be propelled from third world status to that of the first world. ///

Very true.  However, all these are done during the period when ministers were paid relatively modestly. So, there is no correlation with high pay and high performance. In fact, quite the reverse.  Many of the recent boo-boos and major fiascos occurred after the ministers were paid handsomely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/// Nonetheless, we ought to recognise the importance of quality logic and foresight in governance, such as those displayed by MM Lee in the pre- and post-independence (minus Operation Coldstore, which was an outrage in my humble opinion). There is sufficient evidence to claim that the initial management of local housing and education by MM Lee’s government provided an impetus for the growth of our country. This allowed the country to be propelled from third world status to that of the first world. ///</p>
<p>Very true.  However, all these are done during the period when ministers were paid relatively modestly. So, there is no correlation with high pay and high performance. In fact, quite the reverse.  Many of the recent boo-boos and major fiascos occurred after the ministers were paid handsomely.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone has reflected, the reasons given were indeed &quot;very shallow&quot; !

This reflects the of law and order of a country.

It then becomes questionable !

And sometimes ago, the stories of &quot;confrontasi&quot; was brought up.
Frankly, &quot;the scheme&quot; was well planned.
So we did ran to the &quot;cow-boys&quot;. (As expected !).
And, the &quot;cow-boys&quot; were laughing all the way.
Intellectuals ?  Worth its weight in gold ?

Anyway, it is better to adapt any rules and regulations we learned from any countries, too.
It is foolish to follow blindly !

So this advertisement on TV was repeated many times, about the colour &quot;Red&quot;.
It says that certain countries regard it as not good, but others consider it as good omen !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone has reflected, the reasons given were indeed &#8220;very shallow&#8221; !</p>
<p>This reflects the of law and order of a country.</p>
<p>It then becomes questionable !</p>
<p>And sometimes ago, the stories of &#8220;confrontasi&#8221; was brought up.<br />
Frankly, &#8220;the scheme&#8221; was well planned.<br />
So we did ran to the &#8220;cow-boys&#8221;. (As expected !).<br />
And, the &#8220;cow-boys&#8221; were laughing all the way.<br />
Intellectuals ?  Worth its weight in gold ?</p>
<p>Anyway, it is better to adapt any rules and regulations we learned from any countries, too.<br />
It is foolish to follow blindly !</p>
<p>So this advertisement on TV was repeated many times, about the colour &#8220;Red&#8221;.<br />
It says that certain countries regard it as not good, but others consider it as good omen !</p>
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		<title>By: sturmtruppen</title>
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		<dc:creator>sturmtruppen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the rate the golden boys and gals of the government is heading...

well...

Best they read this..

http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/stupidity/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the rate the golden boys and gals of the government is heading&#8230;</p>
<p>well&#8230;</p>
<p>Best they read this..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/stupidity/" rel="nofollow">http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/stupidity/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Defennder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defennder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wakka	
Feb 3, 2010 21:01

That&#039;s interesting. Thanks for taking time to dig those out.  Hope to see you guys write more about such issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wakka<br />
Feb 3, 2010 21:01</p>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting. Thanks for taking time to dig those out.  Hope to see you guys write more about such issues.</p>
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		<title>By: People Arrogant Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Arrogant Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we look at how much the ministers draw above as compared to mounting poverty in Singapore. It really makes many people sick!  This information alone, makes LKY legacy pale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we look at how much the ministers draw above as compared to mounting poverty in Singapore. It really makes many people sick!  This information alone, makes LKY legacy pale.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumb and dumber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumb and dumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the cronies they are surrounded with. Everyone with $$$$ in their eyes. PERIOD. 

$$$ is the only language they talk.
Now, $$$ is the only language the populace knows.

Singaporeans are screwed one way or another if we continue with this route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the cronies they are surrounded with. Everyone with $$$$ in their eyes. PERIOD. </p>
<p>$$$ is the only language they talk.<br />
Now, $$$ is the only language the populace knows.</p>
<p>Singaporeans are screwed one way or another if we continue with this route.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the peg of our ministers&#039; pay should be to the leaders in other countries instead of the top earners in the country.

Afterall, we should not be comparing apples against oranges.  

Am I making sense here ??

Without going into the pay issue, i feel that the singapore leaders are fast losing touch of the plight of the common people.  They are supported by grass root leaders who are mostly self serving and who merely want to report good news and positive events to the masters they report to.

It is sad that there are some segments in our population that have been totally neglected, ignored and sidelined.  

I think our country will fail in the long term if this trend continues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the peg of our ministers&#8217; pay should be to the leaders in other countries instead of the top earners in the country.</p>
<p>Afterall, we should not be comparing apples against oranges.  </p>
<p>Am I making sense here ??</p>
<p>Without going into the pay issue, i feel that the singapore leaders are fast losing touch of the plight of the common people.  They are supported by grass root leaders who are mostly self serving and who merely want to report good news and positive events to the masters they report to.</p>
<p>It is sad that there are some segments in our population that have been totally neglected, ignored and sidelined.  </p>
<p>I think our country will fail in the long term if this trend continues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Teo Ho Chia aka Boomz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teo Ho Chia aka Boomz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would new citizens  be &gt;50% citizen population in 5 years time or less ?
What might be the effect of us giving them another 5 years ?

When new citizen &gt;50%, does this mean we the &gt;=2nd generation citizens become the minority?

IF so, how will we affected the decisions of the &gt;50% newbies?

To avoid all these headache, i know what to do now. I am ready like there is no tomolo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would new citizens  be &gt;50% citizen population in 5 years time or less ?<br />
What might be the effect of us giving them another 5 years ?</p>
<p>When new citizen &gt;50%, does this mean we the &gt;=2nd generation citizens become the minority?</p>
<p>IF so, how will we affected the decisions of the &gt;50% newbies?</p>
<p>To avoid all these headache, i know what to do now. I am ready like there is no tomolo.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Bee Sua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Bee Sua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot imagine another 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot imagine another 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: 'Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>'Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//Mahathir once said that Ministers in Malaysia are often accused of accepting under the counter payments to get things done but in Singapore they do it over the counter.//

There is indeed a huge difference. There, when they get caught they have to face the music.
Here they ensure that they will never be caught as everything is nice and legal. Result?
There is no music to dance to!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//Mahathir once said that Ministers in Malaysia are often accused of accepting under the counter payments to get things done but in Singapore they do it over the counter.//</p>
<p>There is indeed a huge difference. There, when they get caught they have to face the music.<br />
Here they ensure that they will never be caught as everything is nice and legal. Result?<br />
There is no music to dance to!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wakka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wakka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jxblack	
Feb 3, 2010 14:43

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/11674/52/
http://www.independent.org/issues/article.asp?id=1505

studies estimated that america&#039;s GDP will increase if they do not deport the illegal immigrants, but to welcome immigrants. applying the same logic, these immigrant will also increase our GDP through taxes etc.

however, once the immigration floodgate closes, the quantity coming in will be lesser and will most likely retard our GDP growth, unless the quality of both the immigrants and locals can go up fast enough to maintain the GDP growth.

my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jxblack<br />
Feb 3, 2010 14:43</p>
<p><a href="http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/11674/52/" rel="nofollow">http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/11674/52/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.independent.org/issues/article.asp?id=1505" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.org/issues/article.asp?id=1505</a></p>
<p>studies estimated that america&#8217;s GDP will increase if they do not deport the illegal immigrants, but to welcome immigrants. applying the same logic, these immigrant will also increase our GDP through taxes etc.</p>
<p>however, once the immigration floodgate closes, the quantity coming in will be lesser and will most likely retard our GDP growth, unless the quality of both the immigrants and locals can go up fast enough to maintain the GDP growth.</p>
<p>my 2 cents.</p>
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