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	<title>Comments on: The Straits Times thinks only businessmen are Singaporeans</title>
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		<title>By: Fugazzi</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-129206</link>
		<dc:creator>Fugazzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shitty times lacks credibility and they do not have journalists - they only have reporters regurgitating what is told to them or ... and hence what can one expect but shit lar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shitty times lacks credibility and they do not have journalists &#8211; they only have reporters regurgitating what is told to them or &#8230; and hence what can one expect but shit lar</p>
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		<title>By: Ganga</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-129097</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;That&#039;s what&#039;s more surprising - in spite of knowing that many readers will be able to tell fact from fiction, they blatantly choose to do it time and again. I think the problem is that the MSM is not accountable to the people in any way - the government has enough money to bankroll the papers and TV even if every single Singaporean stops reading and watching altogether.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m really not sure how we can stop this (I guess a change of management is one possibility), but I&#039;m concerned that there are many who are hopelessly reliant on the system and cannot fathom a life without the matrix (i.e. PAP government). Well, I fashion myself to be like Morpheus - and try to keep pushing the truth to set the &#039;slaves of the system&#039; free, hahaha.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;As for the statistical manipulation - stats in Singapore (and in business) has today become a parlour trick to impress the uninformed. What is shocking in this case though is the brazen extent to which they have manipulated the whole survey - it&#039;s like a card trick where the we can see the card in the other hand but the magician keeps insisting that the card has disappeared.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>That&#8217;s what&#8217;s more surprising &#8211; in spite of knowing that many readers will be able to tell fact from fiction, they blatantly choose to do it time and again. I think the problem is that the MSM is not accountable to the people in any way &#8211; the government has enough money to bankroll the papers and TV even if every single Singaporean stops reading and watching altogether.</em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m really not sure how we can stop this (I guess a change of management is one possibility), but I&#8217;m concerned that there are many who are hopelessly reliant on the system and cannot fathom a life without the matrix (i.e. PAP government). Well, I fashion myself to be like Morpheus &#8211; and try to keep pushing the truth to set the &#8216;slaves of the system&#8217; free, hahaha.</em></p>
<p><em>As for the statistical manipulation &#8211; stats in Singapore (and in business) has today become a parlour trick to impress the uninformed. What is shocking in this case though is the brazen extent to which they have manipulated the whole survey &#8211; it&#8217;s like a card trick where the we can see the card in the other hand but the magician keeps insisting that the card has disappeared.</em></p>
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		<title>By: London perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>London perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting (and yet somewhat unsurprising) that the Straits Times should choose to misappropriate an industry trust barometer and apply some pro-governmental gloss over it. Don&#039;t they know that Singaporeans can now instantaneously fact-check while reading hyperbolic fact-manipulation?
I just hope that healthy questioning of the validity of our print press becomes a habit for more people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting (and yet somewhat unsurprising) that the Straits Times should choose to misappropriate an industry trust barometer and apply some pro-governmental gloss over it. Don&#8217;t they know that Singaporeans can now instantaneously fact-check while reading hyperbolic fact-manipulation?<br />
I just hope that healthy questioning of the validity of our print press becomes a habit for more people.</p>
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		<title>By: statistical student</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-129026</link>
		<dc:creator>statistical student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think we can trust them to say that we trust them.
&lt;strong&gt;Quick summary &lt;/strong&gt;
Sampling size : 200
Household income group : top quartile for their age.
Any statistical student here to enlighten.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think we can trust them to say that we trust them.<br />
<strong>Quick summary </strong><br />
Sampling size : 200<br />
Household income group : top quartile for their age.<br />
Any statistical student here to enlighten.<br />
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		<title>By: Shame of Singapore</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-129018</link>
		<dc:creator>Shame of Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, TOC, for providing us with yet another example of why Singaporean citizens should NOT trust PAP and its 154th mouthpiece.

This is a new hitting-below-the-belt low for MSM journalism in Singapore.

But the question is: do Singaporeans have what it takes to feel pain when somebody punches them below-the-belt like this?

VOTE PROTEST. Prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, TOC, for providing us with yet another example of why Singaporean citizens should NOT trust PAP and its 154th mouthpiece.</p>
<p>This is a new hitting-below-the-belt low for MSM journalism in Singapore.</p>
<p>But the question is: do Singaporeans have what it takes to feel pain when somebody punches them below-the-belt like this?</p>
<p>VOTE PROTEST. Prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: sturmtruppen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128918</link>
		<dc:creator>sturmtruppen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and it is also about trust, honesty, self-respect and respecting others truely...except ST seems to have lost all of these over the years with the general poplulation of singapore....

http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/trust/

http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/honesty/

http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/respect/

: (</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and it is also about trust, honesty, self-respect and respecting others truely&#8230;except ST seems to have lost all of these over the years with the general poplulation of singapore&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/trust/" rel="nofollow">http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/trust/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/honesty/" rel="nofollow">http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/honesty/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/respect/" rel="nofollow">http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/respect/</a></p>
<p>: (</p>
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		<title>By: fievel</title>
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		<dc:creator>fievel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for confirming my suspicions when I read that piece on the ST.

I think PAP is in serious trouble. It&#039;s like quicksand...the more u wriggle the deeper u go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for confirming my suspicions when I read that piece on the ST.</p>
<p>I think PAP is in serious trouble. It&#8217;s like quicksand&#8230;the more u wriggle the deeper u go</p>
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		<title>By: Tua Sian Hokkien Pian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128778</link>
		<dc:creator>Tua Sian Hokkien Pian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job TOC.
I hope that expose&#039; like this show them that we Singaporeans are not that easily hoodwinked.
ST is fast losing its credibility because of dishonestly/carelessly slanted articles like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job TOC.<br />
I hope that expose&#8217; like this show them that we Singaporeans are not that easily hoodwinked.<br />
ST is fast losing its credibility because of dishonestly/carelessly slanted articles like this.</p>
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		<title>By: mon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128694</link>
		<dc:creator>mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really that good?

Then Ask the pigs to start the elections now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really that good?</p>
<p>Then Ask the pigs to start the elections now.</p>
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		<title>By: vertigo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128692</link>
		<dc:creator>vertigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a joke! My projects had much larger sample sizes back in my poly days~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke! My projects had much larger sample sizes back in my poly days~</p>
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		<title>By: theforgottongeneration</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128690</link>
		<dc:creator>theforgottongeneration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought only 66% &quot;voted&#039; PAP (or actual 34%). And PAP is government. So, did it ever occur to ST that the 84% focus group could be biased? I mean, talking to groups/people I associates with daily seem give an impression that the actual ground sentiment is quite different. Of course, I didn&#039;t use any surveying methodology to form that impression. 

200 people? Is that a sufficient survey size for such a subject? And done over the phone!!!?? Maybe they did 1000 calls and only 200 responded somewhat -- I did surveys before -- Singaporeans really not so free to give 25 minutes of their time speaking to someone asking questions over the phone. It is definitely doubted that they made 200 calls and 200 responded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought only 66% &#8220;voted&#8217; PAP (or actual 34%). And PAP is government. So, did it ever occur to ST that the 84% focus group could be biased? I mean, talking to groups/people I associates with daily seem give an impression that the actual ground sentiment is quite different. Of course, I didn&#8217;t use any surveying methodology to form that impression. </p>
<p>200 people? Is that a sufficient survey size for such a subject? And done over the phone!!!?? Maybe they did 1000 calls and only 200 responded somewhat &#8212; I did surveys before &#8212; Singaporeans really not so free to give 25 minutes of their time speaking to someone asking questions over the phone. It is definitely doubted that they made 200 calls and 200 responded.</p>
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		<title>By: vertigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vertigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone of us here were included in the survey? btw sample size of 200 should be &#039;peanuts&#039; to them, TRUST them to pat one another&#039;s backs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone of us here were included in the survey? btw sample size of 200 should be &#8216;peanuts&#8217; to them, TRUST them to pat one another&#8217;s backs</p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128676</link>
		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goodness another Straits Times propaganda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness another Straits Times propaganda</p>
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		<title>By: jerome au kian beng</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128671</link>
		<dc:creator>jerome au kian beng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cny good time to network and reach out. 
all hll breaks lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cny good time to network and reach out.<br />
all hll breaks lose.</p>
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		<title>By: The Jackal</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128669</link>
		<dc:creator>The Jackal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fellow Singaporeans,

Let&#039;s get al our friends and relatives boycott all publications by SPH, including  the Straits Times, New Paper and Business Times and donate the money to those homeless families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellow Singaporeans,</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get al our friends and relatives boycott all publications by SPH, including  the Straits Times, New Paper and Business Times and donate the money to those homeless families.</p>
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		<title>By: jerome au kian beng</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerome au kian beng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when so many have influxed then only i realise the Extent.
when they said welcome ft, i did not realise so many FT, PR, new citizens and property speculators or investors have come in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when so many have influxed then only i realise the Extent.<br />
when they said welcome ft, i did not realise so many FT, PR, new citizens and property speculators or investors have come in.</p>
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		<title>By: sweeney 38</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweeney 38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust  this PAP Government.    You must be kidding!

Look at the &quot;new arrivals&quot; brought into our beloved country,  by  this regime,
whom they called &quot;talents&quot;.
They  have messed up our lives  and  betrayed our trust.

Pui !!!   They are defintely not worthy of our Trust   and  Votes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust  this PAP Government.    You must be kidding!</p>
<p>Look at the &#8220;new arrivals&#8221; brought into our beloved country,  by  this regime,<br />
whom they called &#8220;talents&#8221;.<br />
They  have messed up our lives  and  betrayed our trust.</p>
<p>Pui !!!   They are defintely not worthy of our Trust   and  Votes!</p>
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		<title>By: nonsense</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128662</link>
		<dc:creator>nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZZZZzzzzzzz....does anyone really think PAP cares or needs to beg? Wake UP! They are NOT afraid. They have many &quot;legal&quot; ways to win. So do I trust the PAP government?.....


YES! YES! YES! 
I absolutely and unequivocally TRUST the PAP government; 
In return, the vampire PAP government will absolutely and without remorse, THRUST its people through their hearts with a merciless lightning stake and drain them of their blood.

Get real ! Edelman probably wants in on doing business here thru some shady hookups. As for ST....yawn...if they dun suckup, how then to get their salaries and bonuses for these so called bogus journalists!

Yawn...way past my bedtime. Better lock my window &amp; doors and put up GARLIC or the vampire will come tonight. 
Oops..forgoten our modern vampiric government sucks blood through electronic means. !!! Yikes &gt;:E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZZZZzzzzzzz&#8230;.does anyone really think PAP cares or needs to beg? Wake UP! They are NOT afraid. They have many &#8220;legal&#8221; ways to win. So do I trust the PAP government?&#8230;..</p>
<p>YES! YES! YES!<br />
I absolutely and unequivocally TRUST the PAP government;<br />
In return, the vampire PAP government will absolutely and without remorse, THRUST its people through their hearts with a merciless lightning stake and drain them of their blood.</p>
<p>Get real ! Edelman probably wants in on doing business here thru some shady hookups. As for ST&#8230;.yawn&#8230;if they dun suckup, how then to get their salaries and bonuses for these so called bogus journalists!</p>
<p>Yawn&#8230;way past my bedtime. Better lock my window &amp; doors and put up GARLIC or the vampire will come tonight.<br />
Oops..forgoten our modern vampiric government sucks blood through electronic means. !!! Yikes &gt;:E</p>
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		<title>By: Strategist</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128650</link>
		<dc:creator>Strategist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good work! by researching into the orignal source of information and provide a more balanced view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work! by researching into the orignal source of information and provide a more balanced view.</p>
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		<title>By: Chua Mui Looong</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/the-straits-times-thinks-only-businessmen-are-singaporeans/comment-page-1/#comment-128647</link>
		<dc:creator>Chua Mui Looong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOC can use this as case-in-point to educate the naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOC can use this as case-in-point to educate the naive.</p>
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