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	<title>Comments on: Gagged by the church &#8211; Foyce Le Xuan</title>
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		<title>By: CHC Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHC Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, she is definately &quot;blacklisted&quot;. Since she is not as famous as Jack, the lesser will be blacklisted as rocking the boat. I believe that Foyce is right and her beliefs in exposing Jack.

It is not advisable for her to stay in CHC, she will always be seen as the black sheep, condemmed. 

It will be essential for her to move on to greener pastures.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, she is definately &#8220;blacklisted&#8221;. Since she is not as famous as Jack, the lesser will be blacklisted as rocking the boat. I believe that Foyce is right and her beliefs in exposing Jack.</p>
<p>It is not advisable for her to stay in CHC, she will always be seen as the black sheep, condemmed. </p>
<p>It will be essential for her to move on to greener pastures.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Jerine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@adam
Did the law say that a pastor cannot dress in Armani suit or that the wife of a pastor cannot wear any 
clothes she like? Hmmm

Whatever the church does is always being criticized. Zzzzzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@adam<br />
Did the law say that a pastor cannot dress in Armani suit or that the wife of a pastor cannot wear any<br />
clothes she like? Hmmm</p>
<p>Whatever the church does is always being criticized. Zzzzzz</p>
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		<title>By: Jerine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Just Kang

The church did contribute money, tents and sent medical teams to Haiti for disaster relief. Same for Sichuan&#039;s earthquake. And how much is the pastors being paid has probably nothing to do with you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Just Kang</p>
<p>The church did contribute money, tents and sent medical teams to Haiti for disaster relief. Same for Sichuan&#8217;s earthquake. And how much is the pastors being paid has probably nothing to do with you :)</p>
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		<title>By: light</title>
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		<dc:creator>light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this have anything to do with religion? Why is the church being debated when 1 member did something wrong? Should the whole Singapore nation be condemned when 1 singaporean commit adultery? 

Do the media have the right to judge? Actually all you who are so interested in &#039;helping&#039; the victims should instead be praying to your God that the victims will be able to resolve and find peace. 

I really do pray that all you who aren&#039;t involved in this crisis will be able see the light in this whole situation and move on. 

And to Sonia Suka, you must be someone that has no religion. Because, you don&#039;t a thing about what u wrote. Christians giving to church isn&#039;t called DONATING. Which verse used the word DONATE? It&#039;s either tithing or giving. Now, i think you owe the public an apology for writing about something you know totally nothing about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this have anything to do with religion? Why is the church being debated when 1 member did something wrong? Should the whole Singapore nation be condemned when 1 singaporean commit adultery? </p>
<p>Do the media have the right to judge? Actually all you who are so interested in &#8216;helping&#8217; the victims should instead be praying to your God that the victims will be able to resolve and find peace. </p>
<p>I really do pray that all you who aren&#8217;t involved in this crisis will be able see the light in this whole situation and move on. </p>
<p>And to Sonia Suka, you must be someone that has no religion. Because, you don&#8217;t a thing about what u wrote. Christians giving to church isn&#8217;t called DONATING. Which verse used the word DONATE? It&#8217;s either tithing or giving. Now, i think you owe the public an apology for writing about something you know totally nothing about.</p>
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		<title>By: the truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>the truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! City harvest has a multi million equity stake in Suntec and has been registered as a charity all these while which has many benefits like tax exemption et cetera.
City Harvest is ISO certified and generates many revenue too.
Sun Ho generates many revenue as well, had to leave CHC or tongues will wag further.
Have you observed who are the followers of CHC? The age group and income group and other demographics?
Now we see pastors mediating for Jack Neo.
Mimicks Peter Russell, &quot;What do you think&quot;?
Well Foyce should have let it all out in 1 blast and get it over with. Reveal everything like Wendy. Now she is under &quot;divine restraint&quot;
Nothing will come out from the police report, just watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! City harvest has a multi million equity stake in Suntec and has been registered as a charity all these while which has many benefits like tax exemption et cetera.<br />
City Harvest is ISO certified and generates many revenue too.<br />
Sun Ho generates many revenue as well, had to leave CHC or tongues will wag further.<br />
Have you observed who are the followers of CHC? The age group and income group and other demographics?<br />
Now we see pastors mediating for Jack Neo.<br />
Mimicks Peter Russell, &#8220;What do you think&#8221;?<br />
Well Foyce should have let it all out in 1 blast and get it over with. Reveal everything like Wendy. Now she is under &#8220;divine restraint&#8221;<br />
Nothing will come out from the police report, just watch.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if Jack Neo wanted cheap thrills, dun he know where to get it? 

want fresh meat go supermarket...   :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if Jack Neo wanted cheap thrills, dun he know where to get it? </p>
<p>want fresh meat go supermarket&#8230;   :D</p>
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		<title>By: Pissed off</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pissed off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s us not drag the church&#039;s name onto the street becuase of members&#039; petty squabbles.Foyce is seeking cheap attention and kciking up  dusts that might blind herself. Anyway i find her cheap to bring this up to add salt to the the wound. She and Jack could have sorted out long before this and not now.
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s us not drag the church&#8217;s name onto the street becuase of members&#8217; petty squabbles.Foyce is seeking cheap attention and kciking up  dusts that might blind herself. Anyway i find her cheap to bring this up to add salt to the the wound. She and Jack could have sorted out long before this and not now.<br />
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		<title>By: dickhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>dickhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i think there is more trash between this foyce &amp; our famous jackass. it is being swept under the carpet to protect the church creditability &amp; its image. 
just look at today news abt catholic priests who molest &amp; abused 200 deaf kids in europe for 40 yrs &amp; the vatican claims to not to know abt it.
religions do have its own politic, mind u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i think there is more trash between this foyce &amp; our famous jackass. it is being swept under the carpet to protect the church creditability &amp; its image.<br />
just look at today news abt catholic priests who molest &amp; abused 200 deaf kids in europe for 40 yrs &amp; the vatican claims to not to know abt it.<br />
religions do have its own politic, mind u</p>
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		<title>By: Desmond tutu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desmond tutu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the missionaries came to Africa, they have the bible and we have the land. They said to us &quot;Let us pray&quot;. When we opened our eyes, we have the bible and they have the land.
This is Christian missionaries ! Now we know why so many people want to be Pastor. The richest man on Earth is the Pope, not Bill Gates or Carlos Slim or Warren Buffet.
There is no doubt CHC is not a church but a self enriching entity using Jesus Christ to enrich themselves. Poor Jesus Christ.
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the missionaries came to Africa, they have the bible and we have the land. They said to us &#8220;Let us pray&#8221;. When we opened our eyes, we have the bible and they have the land.<br />
This is Christian missionaries ! Now we know why so many people want to be Pastor. The richest man on Earth is the Pope, not Bill Gates or Carlos Slim or Warren Buffet.<br />
There is no doubt CHC is not a church but a self enriching entity using Jesus Christ to enrich themselves. Poor Jesus Christ.<br />
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		<title>By: kornhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>kornhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wealth, Power, Sex &amp; Religions rules in this sinful world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wealth, Power, Sex &amp; Religions rules in this sinful world!</p>
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		<title>By: Bee Hong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bee Hong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonia was not specualting, she had craftily and knowingly used Jack Neo&#039;s incident to achieve her clear agenda in attacking Christians and their Churches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonia was not specualting, she had craftily and knowingly used Jack Neo&#8217;s incident to achieve her clear agenda in attacking Christians and their Churches.</p>
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		<title>By: blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sonia, please do not dragged the church through this mud. It is just speculations on your part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sonia, please do not dragged the church through this mud. It is just speculations on your part.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew leung</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she is angry that Jack denied making advances towards her, she is not sad. Singing a song or promoting her album is not really attention seeking, it&#039;s part of her work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she is angry that Jack denied making advances towards her, she is not sad. Singing a song or promoting her album is not really attention seeking, it&#8217;s part of her work.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben-o-all-question</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben-o-all-question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to my friend from a local media who has attended the so called press conference by the &quot;Victim no 2&quot;, she sang a song at the end of it and showed her new album. Is she so sad she needs to sing or ..... you be your own judge.
If Jack Neo is one of the biggest contributor to this church, then this is not a very rich church, I have never seen Jack Neo in any ranking in Forbes or Fortune. What do you think he is worth? USD10 Million, USD50 Million, USD100 Million? I don&#039;t know, probably just a few million Singapore dollars, many in Singapore are worth more than him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to my friend from a local media who has attended the so called press conference by the &#8220;Victim no 2&#8243;, she sang a song at the end of it and showed her new album. Is she so sad she needs to sing or &#8230;.. you be your own judge.<br />
If Jack Neo is one of the biggest contributor to this church, then this is not a very rich church, I have never seen Jack Neo in any ranking in Forbes or Fortune. What do you think he is worth? USD10 Million, USD50 Million, USD100 Million? I don&#8217;t know, probably just a few million Singapore dollars, many in Singapore are worth more than him.</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lack moral &amp; is deceitful? sounds like Jack Neo....

how many people with a strong herd mentality under peer pressure &amp; prolong indoctrination can distinguish between truth and lies meh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lack moral &amp; is deceitful? sounds like Jack Neo&#8230;.</p>
<p>how many people with a strong herd mentality under peer pressure &amp; prolong indoctrination can distinguish between truth and lies meh?</p>
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		<title>By: buaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>buaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarence Lee.,
Are you somehow related to ......how do you know and is so sure to say  Sonia has set out to mislead the readers?Care to share?
If the pastor had indeed gave that advise to Foyce,I dun see anything wrong on the article.
Whether reader choose to belief Foyce or the pastor,its their choice.We should not discourage contributors from writing.They are matured to know the consequence.
I have reason to believe that the Pastor gave the wrong advice,becos my junior member &#039;s attitude has change after spending too much time on their seow group.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarence Lee.,<br />
Are you somehow related to &#8230;&#8230;how do you know and is so sure to say  Sonia has set out to mislead the readers?Care to share?<br />
If the pastor had indeed gave that advise to Foyce,I dun see anything wrong on the article.<br />
Whether reader choose to belief Foyce or the pastor,its their choice.We should not discourage contributors from writing.They are matured to know the consequence.<br />
I have reason to believe that the Pastor gave the wrong advice,becos my junior member &#8216;s attitude has change after spending too much time on their seow group.</p>
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		<title>By: Uniquely Spore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uniquely Spore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Readers,
1. If the hubby commits adultery in singapore, do you think it is a crime ? I dunno. But do you?

2. If a private investigator report proves hubby commits Adultery, do you think singapore law penalise the adulterer? i dunno. But do you?

According to today&#039;s newspaper ,  one lady wrote in and said , quote &quot;During the divorce proceedings,  I realised that even if one has a private investigator&#039;s report proving adultery, Singapore law does not penalise the adulterer.&quot;

What say you?

What say you, AWARE?

In this respect, if its true, I would feel very disappointed with AWARE for not fighting for women in this aspect.

Aware need to help women in this aspect. Why should the Adulterer expect the Woman to Endure, Accept or Forgive his adultery? By the same token, can the man accept the wife who sleeps around with men ? If this man gets an investigator and proves her adultery, does the Singapore law penalise the woman?

What standard should a so-called First world have in this aspect?

Lets hear from you, the 1st world citizens. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers,<br />
1. If the hubby commits adultery in singapore, do you think it is a crime ? I dunno. But do you?</p>
<p>2. If a private investigator report proves hubby commits Adultery, do you think singapore law penalise the adulterer? i dunno. But do you?</p>
<p>According to today&#8217;s newspaper ,  one lady wrote in and said , quote &#8220;During the divorce proceedings,  I realised that even if one has a private investigator&#8217;s report proving adultery, Singapore law does not penalise the adulterer.&#8221;</p>
<p>What say you?</p>
<p>What say you, AWARE?</p>
<p>In this respect, if its true, I would feel very disappointed with AWARE for not fighting for women in this aspect.</p>
<p>Aware need to help women in this aspect. Why should the Adulterer expect the Woman to Endure, Accept or Forgive his adultery? By the same token, can the man accept the wife who sleeps around with men ? If this man gets an investigator and proves her adultery, does the Singapore law penalise the woman?</p>
<p>What standard should a so-called First world have in this aspect?</p>
<p>Lets hear from you, the 1st world citizens. </p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the fact that Sonia had set out to misled readers with her highly erroneous and deceitful article, TOC had allowed such an article to be published without verifying its credibility and truthfulness. This speaks of the clear lack of moral and social responsibility on TOC’s part.  
One cannot but also sighed at the kind of mob mentality of some posters here, who had lost their sense of logic, and the ability to distinguish between truth and lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the fact that Sonia had set out to misled readers with her highly erroneous and deceitful article, TOC had allowed such an article to be published without verifying its credibility and truthfulness. This speaks of the clear lack of moral and social responsibility on TOC’s part.  <br />
One cannot but also sighed at the kind of mob mentality of some posters here, who had lost their sense of logic, and the ability to distinguish between truth and lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Shocked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shocked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am suprised that Sonia can write such an article based on presumtions and suppositions ?

So what if Fiona and Jack belong to the same church ? Does it mean there must be a conspiracy then ?
I thought reporters need to have some level of integrity rather than trying to sensentionalise a article based on one&#039;s own misguided decductions.
I can see the path of where Online citizen is going if more such writers such as Sonia is in its team......the road to sleazy unfounded taboild reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am suprised that Sonia can write such an article based on presumtions and suppositions ?</p>
<p>So what if Fiona and Jack belong to the same church ? Does it mean there must be a conspiracy then ?<br />
I thought reporters need to have some level of integrity rather than trying to sensentionalise a article based on one&#8217;s own misguided decductions.<br />
I can see the path of where Online citizen is going if more such writers such as Sonia is in its team&#8230;&#8230;the road to sleazy unfounded taboild reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: charge them</title>
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		<dc:creator>charge them</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the church pastor interfere to prevent joyce to expose the evidence, they can be charge for obstructing justice, obstructing evidence and maybe intimidating to joyce, might even be held liable as co-culprit in the whole case.
Its just a personal opinion here. no offence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the church pastor interfere to prevent joyce to expose the evidence, they can be charge for obstructing justice, obstructing evidence and maybe intimidating to joyce, might even be held liable as co-culprit in the whole case.<br />
Its just a personal opinion here. no offence.</p>
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