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		<title>By: Zoroukah &#8211; Death penalty has contributed to low rates of drug use? Where’s the proof?</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-297213</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoroukah &#8211; Death penalty has contributed to low rates of drug use? Where’s the proof?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Hor who teaches at the National University of Singapore Faculty of Law said in an interview in 2010, &#8216;we must also be clear, on the other hand, that none of this proves that the mandatory death [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Hor who teaches at the National University of Singapore Faculty of Law said in an interview in 2010, &#8216;we must also be clear, on the other hand, that none of this proves that the mandatory death [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Online Citizen &#187; No conclusive proof that mandatory death penalty has contributed to low rates or drug use</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-297038</link>
		<dc:creator>The Online Citizen &#187; No conclusive proof that mandatory death penalty has contributed to low rates or drug use</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who teaches at the National&#160;University&#160;of&#160;Singapore Faculty&#160;of Law said in an interview in 2010, &#039;we must also be clear, on the other hand, that none of this proves that the mandatory death [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] who teaches at the National&nbsp;University&nbsp;of&nbsp;Singapore Faculty&nbsp;of Law said in an interview in 2010, &#039;we must also be clear, on the other hand, that none of this proves that the mandatory death [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MDP Primer 101 &#8220;The Mandatory Death Penalty is not the same as the Death Penalty&#8221; &#124; TOC &#171; why so like that one?</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-294023</link>
		<dc:creator>MDP Primer 101 &#8220;The Mandatory Death Penalty is not the same as the Death Penalty&#8221; &#124; TOC &#171; why so like that one?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on you, you are likely to be sentenced to death. Professor Michael Hor of the Law Faculty of NUS spoke in an interview with TOC in 2010, &#8221;Let us be clear that if indeed the accused successfully persuades the court that he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on you, you are likely to be sentenced to death. Professor Michael Hor of the Law Faculty of NUS spoke in an interview with TOC in 2010, &#8221;Let us be clear that if indeed the accused successfully persuades the court that he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-291859</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but I&#039;ve seen the way drugs are sold openly without fear of punishment countries which don&#039;t practice the MDP for drug traffickers and i am thankful that Singapore has the MDP. There is a reason why we don&#039;t have drug lords openly &quot;ruling&quot; neighbourhoods, and that reason is the MDP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but I&#039;ve seen the way drugs are sold openly without fear of punishment countries which don&#039;t practice the MDP for drug traffickers and i am thankful that Singapore has the MDP. There is a reason why we don&#039;t have drug lords openly &quot;ruling&quot; neighbourhoods, and that reason is the MDP.</p>
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		<title>By: Fighting false assertion with false assertion. &#124; funny little world</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-290445</link>
		<dc:creator>Fighting false assertion with false assertion. &#124; funny little world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Professor Michael Hor, who teaches at the National University of Singapore, has doubts as to the deterrent effect of the mandatory death [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zoroukah &#8211; The Mandatory Death Penalty is not the same as the Death Penalty</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-238760</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoroukah &#8211; The Mandatory Death Penalty is not the same as the Death Penalty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 01:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Hor of the Law Faculty of NUS spoke in an interview with TOC in 2010, “Let us be clear that if indeed the accused successfully persuades the court that he actually [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Mandatory Death Penalty is not the same as the Death Penalty &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-238671</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mandatory Death Penalty is not the same as the Death Penalty &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Hor of the Law Faculty of NUS spoke in an interview with TOC in 2010, &#8220;Let us be clear that if indeed the accused successfully persuades the court that he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: headgansta</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-169557</link>
		<dc:creator>headgansta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even in the dark ages...the Emperor or Dictator when he says :&quot;Off with his head&quot; actually has the discretion to &quot;sentence&quot; or not toe &quot;sentence&quot;....

To deny this fundamental right to the sentencing judge is not only barbaric but also a complete disregard for the honourable judge&#039;s ability to be a Judge.

I wonder how many of the Judges who had to &quot;sentence&quot; people to MDP live without regret and have a clear conscience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in the dark ages&#8230;the Emperor or Dictator when he says :&#8221;Off with his head&#8221; actually has the discretion to &#8220;sentence&#8221; or not toe &#8220;sentence&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>To deny this fundamental right to the sentencing judge is not only barbaric but also a complete disregard for the honourable judge&#8217;s ability to be a Judge.</p>
<p>I wonder how many of the Judges who had to &#8220;sentence&#8221; people to MDP live without regret and have a clear conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: Tika</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-145946</link>
		<dc:creator>Tika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 03:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human beings learn by consequence. If you don&#039;t get lung cancer, you will continue smoking... If there is no MDP, they continue trafficking... and who suffers? the one who is introduced to drugs (usually uneducated and foolish) and get a lifetime sentence of drug addiction dragging along with him/her the whole family into the suffering. 
MDP is like choosing the lesser of 2 evils. &quot;kill&quot; the nation with drug addicts lingin our streets? or kill the top perpertrator. 
Its like allowing prostitution when these activities can cause HIV, AIDS, broken marriages, abortions... but its better to have these men at the brothels then on the streets raping your wife, sister or daughter because of lack of self control...
The judge has a difficult job. Everyone comes to him from different perspectives...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human beings learn by consequence. If you don&#8217;t get lung cancer, you will continue smoking&#8230; If there is no MDP, they continue trafficking&#8230; and who suffers? the one who is introduced to drugs (usually uneducated and foolish) and get a lifetime sentence of drug addiction dragging along with him/her the whole family into the suffering.<br />
MDP is like choosing the lesser of 2 evils. &#8220;kill&#8221; the nation with drug addicts lingin our streets? or kill the top perpertrator.<br />
Its like allowing prostitution when these activities can cause HIV, AIDS, broken marriages, abortions&#8230; but its better to have these men at the brothels then on the streets raping your wife, sister or daughter because of lack of self control&#8230;<br />
The judge has a difficult job. Everyone comes to him from different perspectives&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Do Re Mi</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-133562</link>
		<dc:creator>Do Re Mi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the call for the MDP???

I dont see any plans being carried out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the call for the MDP???</p>
<p>I dont see any plans being carried out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-132486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*support</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-132485</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about people who unthinkingly suppose everything that TOC says? How do u classify them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about people who unthinkingly suppose everything that TOC says? How do u classify them?</p>
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		<title>By: sgdeathpenalty</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-132407</link>
		<dc:creator>sgdeathpenalty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More about convicted teenage drug offender Yong Vui Kong&#039;s case in the blog here: http://sgdeathpenalty.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More about convicted teenage drug offender Yong Vui Kong&#8217;s case in the blog here: <a href="http://sgdeathpenalty.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://sgdeathpenalty.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew C</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-132387</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the death penalty does seem cruel, I like to live under the fact to know that the streets of Singapore are clean, and that my wife and kids are able to party out into the wee hours and not getting hurt.
On the contrary, if the death penalty were to be exchanged for a life sentence, such a maximum security prison would be a high cost for a small city state like Singapore. And by then, perhaps netizens might comment on other things -- rising taxes, lower pension, high cost of maximum security prison maintenance etc.
Just a thought; the government lets the prisoner choose: Dealth penalty, or being sold to private prison facilities, and take the capital punishment off their hands. What say you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the death penalty does seem cruel, I like to live under the fact to know that the streets of Singapore are clean, and that my wife and kids are able to party out into the wee hours and not getting hurt.<br />
On the contrary, if the death penalty were to be exchanged for a life sentence, such a maximum security prison would be a high cost for a small city state like Singapore. And by then, perhaps netizens might comment on other things &#8212; rising taxes, lower pension, high cost of maximum security prison maintenance etc.<br />
Just a thought; the government lets the prisoner choose: Dealth penalty, or being sold to private prison facilities, and take the capital punishment off their hands. What say you?<br />
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		<title>By: lobo76</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-132322</link>
		<dc:creator>lobo76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;teo soh lung				
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&lt;strong&gt;I fully agree with Prof Hor’s balanced views. ... a moratorium on the death penalty is appropriate.&lt;/strong&gt;
I agree that the Prof&#039;s view were balanced. However, I am not sure if he was in favour for a moratorium. Did you read his questions at the end of that answer?
 
&lt;strong&gt;MLC				
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&lt;strong&gt;Sgreans who unthinkingly accept PAP views and support death penalty are murderers themselves.&lt;/strong&gt;
ANYONE who unthinkingly accepts any view are idiots. That includes people who opposed the DP simply because it looks to be the &#039;right&#039; thing to do, without thinking why it is the &#039;right&#039; thing.
 
p.s what about people who &#039;thinkingly&#039; support DP without caring one iota of PAP&#039;s views? What do you classify them as?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>teo soh lung<br />
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<strong>I fully agree with Prof Hor’s balanced views. &#8230; a moratorium on the death penalty is appropriate.</strong><br />
I agree that the Prof&#8217;s view were balanced. However, I am not sure if he was in favour for a moratorium. Did you read his questions at the end of that answer?<br />
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<strong>MLC<br />
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<strong>Sgreans who unthinkingly accept PAP views and support death penalty are murderers themselves.</strong><br />
ANYONE who unthinkingly accepts any view are idiots. That includes people who opposed the DP simply because it looks to be the &#8216;right&#8217; thing to do, without thinking why it is the &#8216;right&#8217; thing.<br />
 <br />
p.s what about people who &#8216;thinkingly&#8217; support DP without caring one iota of PAP&#8217;s views? What do you classify them as?<br />
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		<title>By: MLC</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-132314</link>
		<dc:creator>MLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sgreans who unthinkingly accept PAP views and support death penalty are murderers themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sgreans who unthinkingly accept PAP views and support death penalty are murderers themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: teo soh lung</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/03/no-reason-that-mdp-works/comment-page-1/#comment-132312</link>
		<dc:creator>teo soh lung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with Prof Hor&#039;s balanced views.  Lives are at stake and the government should not take too long to consider this life and death issue. But knowing how busy our ministers are, a moratorium on the death penalty is appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with Prof Hor&#8217;s balanced views.  Lives are at stake and the government should not take too long to consider this life and death issue. But knowing how busy our ministers are, a moratorium on the death penalty is appropriate.</p>
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