Comments on: Red light area gets out of line

By: Tang Li

Tang Li — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:48:45 +0000

I actually think that one of the better things that LKY did was to create a decent policy on prostitution. The Old Man is right when he said that you can never actually ban this business.
If you walk down Geylang, you’ll realise that a good deal of the customer are actually Singaporean men and so I don’t think we can actually blame foreigners for being a source of vice. The foreigners, particularly the girls fill the supply side of the business.

By: SINGAPOREISFOR SPOREONS

SINGAPOREISFOR SPOREONS — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:12:33 +0000

People,we can choose to ignore this problem.Foriegners have become biggest obstacle for singaporeon to substain themself.It seem’s we have nobody to voice our grievieances to.We don’t have much choice,now the elections are close by.who know’s! we might not even get another chance,by next elections china man population will replace singaporens..Use our chance efectively..vote for the opposition..even if they don’t come in power…They can still put pressure on govt to reverse hands free policy on migration….allocation of jobs,education,loans (hdb) to singaporeons first….revoking PR’s of unskilled workes or downgrading them to work permits……hopefully we will able bring back the singapore spirit…..MAJULA SINGAPURA

By: Ant

Ant — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:56:54 +0000

Well it is all true check out the New Paper today Oh by the way this happened way back in 2007

By: i AM STUPID

i AM STUPID — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:14:20 +0000

Oops, I mean Deng Xiaoping and not Li.
A very revealing Freudian slip: unconscious association of all dictators and emperors with Li or Lees.

By: i AM STUPID

i AM STUPID — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:39:30 +0000

Li Xiaoping said when you open the windows you get fresh air and sunlight and also the flies, or something to that effect.
On a cynical note, which however I think is closer to the truth than otherwise, the authorities have let prostitution in Geylang – and elsewhere – go on, with one eye – or even both – closed for a long, long time.
There are several reasons.
First single foreign men, and women, talented or not, straight or gay, away from home and family, have sexual urges too, to a greater or lesser extent. So rather they rape and molest and even assault, why not take some money from them and return it to the economy.
And that is the second reason: prostitution is one multiplier in the economy, eg Hotel 81, condoms, food, telephone, medical, taxis, etc, etc ; and this hoped for and desirous economic effect is part of the justification for bringing in foreigners in the first place.
And thirdly the police may have been bought. The notion that Singaporeans are incorruptible is bullshit – anyway who are Singaporeans? Are there such a species at all? On the other hand, people are the same anywhere, always, for all times. And maybe that is why the rioters dare oppose the police – for they may have felt someone cheated them of their protection.
The attitude of the authorities towards prostitution is the same as that leading to the casinos, namely, make money first – didnt LKY said “growth at all costs” and if you don’t agree you are daft? – and deal with the problems that comes with it, later, or even at all. And also there are no such thing as a vice – it can always be an economic good in another perspective, such as changing the laws.
And that was the attitude of LiXiaoping too, who also said, “To be rich is glorious”. Who cares if you are poor but morally upright and totally untainted with any vice, for who is without vice, even the men in white?
So as long as you are making money for Singapore, you can get away with a lot of things, and I think it is a lot. But then again, this story is as old as history, isn’t it?

By: People Arrogant Party

People Arrogant Party — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:00:50 +0000

Singapore is supposed to be a safe place for Singaporeans. PAP just ruined it at all cost. Please cast your sacred votes to alternative parties, they still have feelings for Singaporeans unlike PAP.

By: Reservist_Cpl

Reservist_Cpl — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:07:56 +0000

If we did that, we would be considered criminals.
Is anyone else outraged at the “work in blue collar jobs in the construction sector is great” shit in the Straits Times recently? Now tell me we are not going to end up as the labourers, being bullied by the foreign criminals, and oppressed by our “very own” elected representatives.

By: speck

speck — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:55:40 +0000

In case you are not already aware, I understand that the journalist, Seah Chiang Nee, is a Singaporean and his blog is at http://www.littlespeck.com/, where you can find the compilation of his columns at the Star, every weekend.

By: Zelphon

Zelphon — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:32:28 +0000

We Singaporean men undergo NS ..
Perhaps it is time for NS men to band together and get rid of all these foreign criminals…

By: FairSingaporean

FairSingaporean — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:20:03 +0000

I posted my comment on the integrity of newspapers on March 21. My main point was Singaporeans are not familiar with judging the news in reports. The current exchanges between “My Views” and the others interest me.

It does not matter if the DETAILS of the Geylang incidents were true or false. What is important is we are now aware something did happened there. The Straits Times chose not to report or play it down for some reasons. This sparked off an exchange of views. Is it true? Why did ST not report it? No, it’s a lie? etc. That is what a healthy open society is about. The truth will finally come out.

The Malaysian press exposed the sale of their airforce’s two missing jet engines recently. It started as a rumour (untrue!), then denials (untrue!), and then the TRUTH finally came out. The fiasco in Port Klang Freetrade Zone (PKFZ) was denied by big wigs in the MCA, even a minister. The TRUTH has now come out. Do not underestimate the importance of rumours.

I respect the Malaysian newspaper industry because newspapers emphasize on different matters and give different points of view. The New Straits Times is pro UMNO and anti everybody, The Star is owned by MCA. Utusan Melayu’s views are a bit ultra. The Chinese papers push another agenda etc. One reads the many papers for different views and analyses the news and reports as one thinks fit.

We do not have such previledges in Singapore.

By: lim

lim — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:06:16 +0000

@My Views
Why should Chaim See Tong voice out.. This is in Geylang, not Potong Pasir..

By: fpc

fpc — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:33:55 +0000

//my views
//if the Malaysian article was true, Chiam See Tong and his party would have seized the
//opportunity to shout loud – given Chiam’s plan to end his political career in Wong Kan
//Seng’s GRC. Or you mean to say that Chiam and his party do not know what is happening
//at the ground?

Wong Kan Seng is going to get booted out by Chiam.
Chiam is a doer not an excuse giver like Wong Kan Seng.

By: fpc

fpc — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:29:33 +0000

//my views
if you like, go post your comment on TR.
you will still be defeated.

By: mice is nice

mice is nice — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:01:19 +0000

My Views,

fyi, i currently have 2 posts under moderation too…

patience, patience… dun jump to conclusion mah. :p

By: My Views

My Views — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:57:09 +0000

“Mar 22, 2010 2:36 – This comment is awaiting moderation. Thanks for your patience!”
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Haha! And we often heard this website parroting freedom of speech and accusing the Government for censorship??

Hahahaha! That is why I have been suggesting this website should be shut down.

By: My Views

My Views — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:36:21 +0000

mice is nice
Mar 21, 2010 15:16
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For the sake of discussion, lets assumed the Malaysian article was true. Could the police simply open fire just because they had pistols? Lets be clear about this : being issued with a pistol does not mean you hold a licence to kill! This is especially so if you were in an area which the Malaysian paper claimed there were many people of various foreign nationalities around. Just one mistake – and you put Singapore in a web of hot troubles with many embassies and countries! Trade embargoes, repatriation of Singapore’s ambassadors, protests at Singapore embassies, burning of Singapore’s flags …. it is going to be an ugly and messy scenario!

By: mice is nice

mice is nice — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:17:22 +0000

if the article wasn’t true, MFA would have approached the papers….

By: My Views

My Views — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:14:56 +0000

If the Malaysian article was true, Chiam See Tong and his party would have seized the opportunity to shout loud – given Chiam’s plan to end his political career in Wong Kan Seng’s GRC.

Or you mean to say that Chiam and his party do not know what is happening at the ground?

By: R2D2

R2D2 — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:45:20 +0000

@senior citizen

Since they are lucky enough to be alive, they should know what to do this coming election.

By: senior citizen

senior citizen — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:50:48 +0000

Some of the men in blue are boys serving their NS. I shudder.