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	<title>Comments on: YOG – a litany of screw-ups</title>
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		<title>By: 'Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>'Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next YOG will be held in China. Does anyone disagree that it will be grander, better, more spectacular and more successful that the pitiable one just completed? They may even do it cheaper 2!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next YOG will be held in China. Does anyone disagree that it will be grander, better, more spectacular and more successful that the pitiable one just completed? They may even do it cheaper 2!</p>
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		<title>By: gnoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t worry... &quot;YOG only going to get bigger and better...&quot; (The Straits Times, 26 Aug 2010)  Perhaps it&#039;s because it will be organized and held elsewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t worry&#8230; &#8220;YOG only going to get bigger and better&#8230;&#8221; (The Straits Times, 26 Aug 2010)  Perhaps it&#8217;s because it will be organized and held elsewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Gmale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gmale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main argument here is their gargantuan pay vs the screwups. Yes, screwups will occur no matter which country/city hosts
such an event. But any other country/city does not pay their garment such ridiculous salaries. So how can they claim to be like any other country/city in screwing up and yet are so totally different from every other country/city in the size of their pay? There is absolutely no justifying or equating one with the other.

A while ago, someone got to the crux of the issue when he said that the garment has put itself on such a high pedestal, pay-wise and otherwise, that anything they do will not measure up to their lofty perch. More so screwups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main argument here is their gargantuan pay vs the screwups. Yes, screwups will occur no matter which country/city hosts<br />
such an event. But any other country/city does not pay their garment such ridiculous salaries. So how can they claim to be like any other country/city in screwing up and yet are so totally different from every other country/city in the size of their pay? There is absolutely no justifying or equating one with the other.</p>
<p>A while ago, someone got to the crux of the issue when he said that the garment has put itself on such a high pedestal, pay-wise and otherwise, that anything they do will not measure up to their lofty perch. More so screwups.</p>
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		<title>By: grifter</title>
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		<dc:creator>grifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sw - we&#039;re not criticising our country, but rather how the event was organised. true, with such a huge event, there are bound to be a couple of screw ups, but the scale and the number of screw ups are not befitting of a first world nation.

To differentiate the many points brought up by various pple, I see a couple of valid points:

1. Dissatisfaction with how money is spent on the event. 
a)$387,000,000,000 on one event. Arguements are, money can be better spent on other things, social welfare, hospitals, providing legal aid, etc.
b) no accountability on how the project costs of $104 million shot up more than 3 times to $387 million

2. Dissatisfaction with how local media try to portray the &quot;success&quot; of the event, and minister comments about Singaporeans being &quot;very, very selfish&quot;.

3. Dissatisfaction with the organisation of the event itself, bad organisation, maggots in the food, etc

4. Unhappy with the fact that the citizen has absolutely NO say in whether or not the event should be held, a disconnection between what the govt wants and what the citizens want. (I.e. the thinking that if the govt throws money at an event, pple will have no choice but to support it)

5. Unhappy with bus lanes specially designated for the YOG buses, fines imposed, and aggressive, dangerous driving by certain YOG bus drivers.

6. Dissatisfaction that the event seems to be for the benefit of non-Singaporeans, rather than Singaporeans. Recent poll indicating that 90% of Singaporeans can&#039;t be bothered about the event at all should send a clear indication about the support and the impact of the event. 

I&#039;m not saying I agree with all the points, but merely classifying them. Though personally I&#039;m not interested in sports, but that&#039;s a personal reason. But then again, I bet many pple aren&#039;t interested in sports either, aside form soccer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sw &#8211; we&#8217;re not criticising our country, but rather how the event was organised. true, with such a huge event, there are bound to be a couple of screw ups, but the scale and the number of screw ups are not befitting of a first world nation.</p>
<p>To differentiate the many points brought up by various pple, I see a couple of valid points:</p>
<p>1. Dissatisfaction with how money is spent on the event.<br />
a)$387,000,000,000 on one event. Arguements are, money can be better spent on other things, social welfare, hospitals, providing legal aid, etc.<br />
b) no accountability on how the project costs of $104 million shot up more than 3 times to $387 million</p>
<p>2. Dissatisfaction with how local media try to portray the &#8220;success&#8221; of the event, and minister comments about Singaporeans being &#8220;very, very selfish&#8221;.</p>
<p>3. Dissatisfaction with the organisation of the event itself, bad organisation, maggots in the food, etc</p>
<p>4. Unhappy with the fact that the citizen has absolutely NO say in whether or not the event should be held, a disconnection between what the govt wants and what the citizens want. (I.e. the thinking that if the govt throws money at an event, pple will have no choice but to support it)</p>
<p>5. Unhappy with bus lanes specially designated for the YOG buses, fines imposed, and aggressive, dangerous driving by certain YOG bus drivers.</p>
<p>6. Dissatisfaction that the event seems to be for the benefit of non-Singaporeans, rather than Singaporeans. Recent poll indicating that 90% of Singaporeans can&#8217;t be bothered about the event at all should send a clear indication about the support and the impact of the event. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I agree with all the points, but merely classifying them. Though personally I&#8217;m not interested in sports, but that&#8217;s a personal reason. But then again, I bet many pple aren&#8217;t interested in sports either, aside form soccer.</p>
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		<title>By: Flop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOG - FLOP OF THE YEAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOG &#8211; FLOP OF THE YEAR.</p>
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		<title>By: Sw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys even singpoareans or not? Disgrace only. Own country got privellage organize this huge event yet you&#039;re criticising so much of your country. Throw face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you guys even singpoareans or not? Disgrace only. Own country got privellage organize this huge event yet you&#8217;re criticising so much of your country. Throw face.</p>
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		<title>By: singaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 03:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Randomguy. 

Personally, even though I think YOG is a great thing and I am proud that Singapore is the first to to host it, I can see why others don&#039;t feel that way. However, in YOG itself, there are merits. If we stop picking on the bad points, you would have seen some good things. 

Also currently for my school, we don&#039;t need to buy the tickets, and there are even some sports games that have been really popular, that many people were left disappointed because they couldn&#039;t get the tickets. 

What I&#039;m saying is that yes the YOG may not be perfect, but please give it some time before we judge the whole thing. Remember, Singapore is ultimately still a very very very small country, we should be proud that we can actually host it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Randomguy. </p>
<p>Personally, even though I think YOG is a great thing and I am proud that Singapore is the first to to host it, I can see why others don&#8217;t feel that way. However, in YOG itself, there are merits. If we stop picking on the bad points, you would have seen some good things. </p>
<p>Also currently for my school, we don&#8217;t need to buy the tickets, and there are even some sports games that have been really popular, that many people were left disappointed because they couldn&#8217;t get the tickets. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that yes the YOG may not be perfect, but please give it some time before we judge the whole thing. Remember, Singapore is ultimately still a very very very small country, we should be proud that we can actually host it.</p>
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		<title>By: Randomguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randomguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 03:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys gripe about the government but do you guys honestly see a worthy alternative to the PAP? if you ask me, I personally see any yet. and you are forgetting everything that the government has done for Singapore. Sure there are some bad things, but there equally are good things as well. To condemn the government simply on the YOG is being very narrow-minded and shallow. 

Furthermore, the budget overruns are typical of any big events. Look at the London 2012 olympics and the 2010 Vancouver winter olympics. Common sense should tell you that with the economy always fluctuating, prices are  never constant. Then comes the inherent difficulty of organizing an event on this scale, particularly when it seems to be our first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys gripe about the government but do you guys honestly see a worthy alternative to the PAP? if you ask me, I personally see any yet. and you are forgetting everything that the government has done for Singapore. Sure there are some bad things, but there equally are good things as well. To condemn the government simply on the YOG is being very narrow-minded and shallow. </p>
<p>Furthermore, the budget overruns are typical of any big events. Look at the London 2012 olympics and the 2010 Vancouver winter olympics. Common sense should tell you that with the economy always fluctuating, prices are  never constant. Then comes the inherent difficulty of organizing an event on this scale, particularly when it seems to be our first time.</p>
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		<title>By: Lim SL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lim SL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minor minor point, but I wish Singaporeans will stop saying &#039;national TV&#039;. Americans use &#039;national TV&#039;  to differentiate it from &#039;local TV&#039;. In Singapore, we only have local TV, with all its attendant parochialism. So please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minor minor point, but I wish Singaporeans will stop saying &#8216;national TV&#8217;. Americans use &#8216;national TV&#8217;  to differentiate it from &#8216;local TV&#8217;. In Singapore, we only have local TV, with all its attendant parochialism. So please.</p>
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		<title>By: Frozen Artic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frozen Artic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We only promote the event in SIngapore not in other countries. 

This year Singapore should not have bid for it. too many events clashing. World Cup, Commonwealth Games , World Youth championship in Hawali. Why must always be the first?!!. I rather Singapore bid for Asian games. It will be better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We only promote the event in SIngapore not in other countries. </p>
<p>This year Singapore should not have bid for it. too many events clashing. World Cup, Commonwealth Games , World Youth championship in Hawali. Why must always be the first?!!. I rather Singapore bid for Asian games. It will be better</p>
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		<title>By: theforgottongeneration</title>
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		<dc:creator>theforgottongeneration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gspot
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No lah, to show Singaporeans can work under sun or rain, mah. Also can survive more than 10 days in jungle without change of underwears. We where got choosy with jobs? 
.
PS. stupid idiots running around holding essentially a lightning rod in their hands. Wear poncho also will get fried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gspot<br />
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No lah, to show Singaporeans can work under sun or rain, mah. Also can survive more than 10 days in jungle without change of underwears. We where got choosy with jobs?<br />
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PS. stupid idiots running around holding essentially a lightning rod in their hands. Wear poncho also will get fried.</p>
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		<title>By: Gspot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gspot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice mice,

I&#039;m afraid you have to excuse them. 
How to plan when rain is a 50 year 
once phenomenon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice mice,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid you have to excuse them.<br />
How to plan when rain is a 50 year<br />
once phenomenon?</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 09:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iamaYOGgladiator, 7 August 2010

saw some wear poncho waiting for the flame to arrive at CHIJ Toa Payoh, but those running, run despite the rain, no welfare.

i guess with TV &amp; news crew around, the show must go on? just like the ruling elites, typical of people who do not plan for incliment weather- no back-up plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iamaYOGgladiator, 7 August 2010</p>
<p>saw some wear poncho waiting for the flame to arrive at CHIJ Toa Payoh, but those running, run despite the rain, no welfare.</p>
<p>i guess with TV &amp; news crew around, the show must go on? just like the ruling elites, typical of people who do not plan for incliment weather- no back-up plan.</p>
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		<title>By: iamaYOGgladiator</title>
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		<dc:creator>iamaYOGgladiator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mice is nice 7 August 2010 
it did rain when the YOG team was at Toa Payoh.
...
so what did the yog team do?
splint a 100m race with an umbrella?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mice is nice 7 August 2010<br />
it did rain when the YOG team was at Toa Payoh.<br />
&#8230;<br />
so what did the yog team do?<br />
splint a 100m race with an umbrella?</p>
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		<title>By: mice is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mice is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it did rain when the YOG team was at Toa Payoh.

=P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it did rain when the YOG team was at Toa Payoh.</p>
<p>=P</p>
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		<title>By: ollo-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>ollo-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything the PAP_shitters do we won&#039;t support. Why? Because they think they are damned smart and that we are stupid -that&#039;s why they are deaf to any of our feedbacks.Guess they will be punished  by Heaven again...some cock-ups during this YOG!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything the PAP_shitters do we won&#8217;t support. Why? Because they think they are damned smart and that we are stupid -that&#8217;s why they are deaf to any of our feedbacks.Guess they will be punished  by Heaven again&#8230;some cock-ups during this YOG!!</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup: Week 32 &#171; The Singapore Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup: Week 32 &#171; The Singapore Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 02:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Yawning Bread on Wordpress: Alienation scores gold at Youth Olympic Games - TOC: YOG – a litany of screw-ups - i have succumbed to peer pressure: The Youth Olympic Games: Overcompensation for Goal 2010? - [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Yawning Bread on WordPress: Alienation scores gold at Youth Olympic Games &#8211; TOC: YOG – a litany of screw-ups &#8211; i have succumbed to peer pressure: The Youth Olympic Games: Overcompensation for Goal 2010? &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bemused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bemused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 03:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>met a friend who is working for YOG. Poor chap was making the rounds at 11pm at various venues to check on set-up etc.

Amongst his woes of how cock-up the entire operations is, is how PICO is screwing up the fabrication of those purple directional boards you see dotted around the island these days. And I quote:

&quot;Seems like they can&#039;t get it done properly and on time, then we have to do it ourselves.&quot;

Now wonder budget can triple the original estimate if the jobs were awarded to incompetent vendors in the first place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>met a friend who is working for YOG. Poor chap was making the rounds at 11pm at various venues to check on set-up etc.</p>
<p>Amongst his woes of how cock-up the entire operations is, is how PICO is screwing up the fabrication of those purple directional boards you see dotted around the island these days. And I quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Seems like they can&#8217;t get it done properly and on time, then we have to do it ourselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now wonder budget can triple the original estimate if the jobs were awarded to incompetent vendors in the first place!</p>
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		<title>By: The Youth Olympic Games &#8212; why the great apathy? &#124; Sgpolitics.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Youth Olympic Games &#8212; why the great apathy? &#124; Sgpolitics.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is hard to feel a sense of pride when the government has been so embarrassingly uncreative in the organization of the Games and has committed such a vast litany of screw-ups. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It is hard to feel a sense of pride when the government has been so embarrassingly uncreative in the organization of the Games and has committed such a vast litany of screw-ups. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Youth Olympic Games &#8211; why the great apathy? &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Youth Olympic Games &#8211; why the great apathy? &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is hard to feel a sense of pride when the government has been so embarrassingly uncreative in the organization of the Games and has committed such a vast litany of screw-ups. [...]</description>
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