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		<title>By: Steven Leong</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-2/#comment-172097</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Leong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without reading the full content of Mr Leong letter, I would like to share with readers that the fare transfer is also not working if you happen to board another with the same service number. Let me explain.
I had boarded service 190A (a morning service), the service will terminate opposite the Dhoby Ghaut MRT station. As my destination was at Bras Basah Road, I alighted and co-incidentally a service 190 was right behind. I boarded this bus but noted that the reader show as New Fare. So I paid attention to what would be charge on my exit. To my surprise, I was charge the full fare ($0,71) instead of $0.02 for the 1 bus stop transfer.

I went to the Bras Basah station to inquire and was told that transfer fare only applies to a change of bus service.

How many of us are aware of this. There are a few commuters from the 190A service who had also boarded the 190 and how many of them are aware of this anomaly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without reading the full content of Mr Leong letter, I would like to share with readers that the fare transfer is also not working if you happen to board another with the same service number. Let me explain.<br />
I had boarded service 190A (a morning service), the service will terminate opposite the Dhoby Ghaut MRT station. As my destination was at Bras Basah Road, I alighted and co-incidentally a service 190 was right behind. I boarded this bus but noted that the reader show as New Fare. So I paid attention to what would be charge on my exit. To my surprise, I was charge the full fare ($0,71) instead of $0.02 for the 1 bus stop transfer.</p>
<p>I went to the Bras Basah station to inquire and was told that transfer fare only applies to a change of bus service.</p>
<p>How many of us are aware of this. There are a few commuters from the 190A service who had also boarded the 190 and how many of them are aware of this anomaly.</p>
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		<title>By: Change is a Must!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Change is a Must!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 12:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sad that the issue of congestion in MRT stations during offpeak and peak hours is not looked at by TOC and TR at the moment.

I tried to get up a train after work but the station was so packed that the commuters had to wait for many trains to come before they could board the trains. Many stations in the city area are like this. Every commuters&#039; faces are unhappy.

This madness must stop. The only way out is to vote them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sad that the issue of congestion in MRT stations during offpeak and peak hours is not looked at by TOC and TR at the moment.</p>
<p>I tried to get up a train after work but the station was so packed that the commuters had to wait for many trains to come before they could board the trains. Many stations in the city area are like this. Every commuters&#8217; faces are unhappy.</p>
<p>This madness must stop. The only way out is to vote them out.</p>
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		<title>By: haywire</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-2/#comment-169611</link>
		<dc:creator>haywire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 05:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>time and time again, they are taking us citizens for fools. looks like they are getting too big headed.

like others above mentioned, aren&#039;t there a database that records all transactions on each unique ez-link?

if they can just make us tap our ez-link cards to deduct value from it, is it that hard to make use of the database they already have and refund back the amount owed to one ez-link card by using the very same &quot;Tapping&quot; system? is it too hard of a programming task to do all that? why make is so and troublesome for everyone? wayang for fools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>time and time again, they are taking us citizens for fools. looks like they are getting too big headed.</p>
<p>like others above mentioned, aren&#8217;t there a database that records all transactions on each unique ez-link?</p>
<p>if they can just make us tap our ez-link cards to deduct value from it, is it that hard to make use of the database they already have and refund back the amount owed to one ez-link card by using the very same &#8220;Tapping&#8221; system? is it too hard of a programming task to do all that? why make is so and troublesome for everyone? wayang for fools.</p>
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		<title>By: Song Boh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169552</link>
		<dc:creator>Song Boh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just Vote Wisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just Vote Wisely.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup: Week 48 &#171; The Singapore Daily</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169398</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup: Week 48 &#171; The Singapore Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;If we can’t effectively increase and improve transport infrastructure, and simply [charge] more whenever congestion gets worse, then what is the incentive to reduce congestion?&#8221; Leong Sze Hian [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;If we can’t effectively increase and improve transport infrastructure, and simply [charge] more whenever congestion gets worse, then what is the incentive to reduce congestion?&#8221; Leong Sze Hian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BREAKING NEWS: Transitlink clarifies that commuters only need to go to top-up machines for refund &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169143</link>
		<dc:creator>BREAKING NEWS: Transitlink clarifies that commuters only need to go to top-up machines for refund &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 04:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] response, TOC published an article by Mr Leong who went to the website and found to his &#8216;horror&#8217; the hassle that commuters [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] response, TOC published an article by Mr Leong who went to the website and found to his &#8216;horror&#8217; the hassle that commuters [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ah Cow</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169135</link>
		<dc:creator>Ah Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 04:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let down  25 November 2010
Highly paid doesn’t mean good quality sometimes..&quot;

On the contrary, it means we paid top price for a basketful of worm-infested durians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let down  25 November 2010<br />
Highly paid doesn’t mean good quality sometimes..&#8221;</p>
<p>On the contrary, it means we paid top price for a basketful of worm-infested durians.</p>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169120</link>
		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 03:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crazy

- not every day cheated lah. once in a while overcharged. big difference, but bad enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazy</p>
<p>- not every day cheated lah. once in a while overcharged. big difference, but bad enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169119</link>
		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 03:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nitpick

- they would say can. But must buy the upgraded $20 ezlink card for this feature :) i don&#039;t know which is worse. saying we must buy this card, or the implication that they overcharge so much that we have to buy this card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nitpick</p>
<p>- they would say can. But must buy the upgraded $20 ezlink card for this feature :) i don&#8217;t know which is worse. saying we must buy this card, or the implication that they overcharge so much that we have to buy this card.</p>
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		<title>By: nitpick</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169108</link>
		<dc:creator>nitpick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be possible to program their system to credit the refund AUTOMATICALLY to our cards when we ride or when we top up?  I realized that this country&#039;s system is to Take-And-Take a.k.a. you know what.  &#039;Smart brains&#039; that tax payers like us have paid for to study overseas really has no gratitude, what a sad society that we have paid to build...  Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be possible to program their system to credit the refund AUTOMATICALLY to our cards when we ride or when we top up?  I realized that this country&#8217;s system is to Take-And-Take a.k.a. you know what.  &#8216;Smart brains&#8217; that tax payers like us have paid for to study overseas really has no gratitude, what a sad society that we have paid to build&#8230;  Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phuui LTA</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169106</link>
		<dc:creator>Phuui LTA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF! ERP for Nicoll Highway is $3 at 6:30pm. That highway doesn’t ever jam up, not even during big shows at Suntec City. Blood suckers!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF! ERP for Nicoll Highway is $3 at 6:30pm. That highway doesn’t ever jam up, not even during big shows at Suntec City. Blood suckers!!</p>
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		<title>By: Let down</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169092</link>
		<dc:creator>Let down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have our society regressed lately? What&#039;s happening tonour mostly highly paid scholarly ministers? The handling of the latest Mas Selamat saga, the bus over charging refund solution and even the hike of erp charges makes one wonder what really happened to our leaders?even the auntie on the street would find the refund solution such a ridiculous joke, the immense waste of resources is one, most pp would not bother to claim the few cents given that we would not likely be able to know when the overcharging happened and if we were overcharged. I wonder if it cost more than $300k to administer the refund! Why can&#039;t the refund be given back through a discounted fares across the board for a day or so? Or other incentive bonus to reward communters ie bonus $$ for every ezlink card top up etc.. 
Highly paid doesn&#039;t mean good quality sometimes..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have our society regressed lately? What&#8217;s happening tonour mostly highly paid scholarly ministers? The handling of the latest Mas Selamat saga, the bus over charging refund solution and even the hike of erp charges makes one wonder what really happened to our leaders?even the auntie on the street would find the refund solution such a ridiculous joke, the immense waste of resources is one, most pp would not bother to claim the few cents given that we would not likely be able to know when the overcharging happened and if we were overcharged. I wonder if it cost more than $300k to administer the refund! Why can&#8217;t the refund be given back through a discounted fares across the board for a day or so? Or other incentive bonus to reward communters ie bonus $$ for every ezlink card top up etc..<br />
Highly paid doesn&#8217;t mean good quality sometimes..</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169082</link>
		<dc:creator>Crazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to &quot;LOVE YOUR RIDE&quot; when every day you get CHEATED by the system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to &#8220;LOVE YOUR RIDE&#8221; when every day you get CHEATED by the system?</p>
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		<title>By: Bus overcharging, profits, ERP: A triple whammy? (via The Online Citizen) &#124; Geek.Mythology</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-169013</link>
		<dc:creator>Bus overcharging, profits, ERP: A triple whammy? (via The Online Citizen) &#124; Geek.Mythology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: omar</title>
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		<dc:creator>omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you like to censor so much then you are no better than PAP, jus the opposite side of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you like to censor so much then you are no better than PAP, jus the opposite side of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-168980</link>
		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crimson

- the free sunday ride as sincere compensation is a good idea! let&#039;s see if they would do it. i think tkk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crimson</p>
<p>- the free sunday ride as sincere compensation is a good idea! let&#8217;s see if they would do it. i think tkk!</p>
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		<title>By: FREEMANLAND</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-168973</link>
		<dc:creator>FREEMANLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;- yes, they admit mistake. and yes they refund. but that’s life, we like to bash.&quot;

haha - what can i say, its your speech freedom anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;- yes, they admit mistake. and yes they refund. but that’s life, we like to bash.&#8221;</p>
<p>haha &#8211; what can i say, its your speech freedom anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FEEMANLAND

- yes, they admit mistake. and yes they refund. but that&#039;s life, we like to bash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FEEMANLAND</p>
<p>- yes, they admit mistake. and yes they refund. but that&#8217;s life, we like to bash.</p>
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		<title>By: FREEMANLAND</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-168964</link>
		<dc:creator>FREEMANLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEAR ALL,

PLEASE DON&#039;T BE SO EMOTIONAL.

PLEASE LOOK AT THE PRESS RELEASE, YOU CAN GET THE REFUND BY GOING TO THE COUNTER, THEY WILL REFUND BY IDENTIFYING YOUR CARD NUMBER, AUTOMATICALLY.

ONLY READY BY MID DECEMBER.

OK?
AT LEAST THAT THEY ADMIT THE MISTAKE, RITE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEAR ALL,</p>
<p>PLEASE DON&#8217;T BE SO EMOTIONAL.</p>
<p>PLEASE LOOK AT THE PRESS RELEASE, YOU CAN GET THE REFUND BY GOING TO THE COUNTER, THEY WILL REFUND BY IDENTIFYING YOUR CARD NUMBER, AUTOMATICALLY.</p>
<p>ONLY READY BY MID DECEMBER.</p>
<p>OK?<br />
AT LEAST THAT THEY ADMIT THE MISTAKE, RITE?</p>
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		<title>By: 'Mat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/bus-overcharging-profits-erp-a-triple-whammy/comment-page-1/#comment-168942</link>
		<dc:creator>'Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have to tell but only to pretend to be transparent. Having told, they must offer refunds or be accused of profiteering at public expense. But see the cock-a-mania method they have cooked up for us to claim refunds. What does it say of them? It&#039;s clear that they have no intention to pay up the ill-gotten gains!

!!! UNIQUELY SINGAPORE !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have to tell but only to pretend to be transparent. Having told, they must offer refunds or be accused of profiteering at public expense. But see the cock-a-mania method they have cooked up for us to claim refunds. What does it say of them? It&#8217;s clear that they have no intention to pay up the ill-gotten gains!</p>
<p>!!! UNIQUELY SINGAPORE !!!</p>
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