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	<title>Comments on: Mas Selamat’s escape – It is about Govt incompetency, not race or religion</title>
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		<title>By: The Changing Face of Nusantara Islam &#124; the kent ridge common</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Changing Face of Nusantara Islam &#124; the kent ridge common</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] declared the act of harbouring a fugitive un-Islamic. However, the ‘objectivity’ of his comment was questioned by a critical online news portal The Online Citizen, implying that it was meant to bolster the government’s stance. Others have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] declared the act of harbouring a fugitive un-Islamic. However, the ‘objectivity’ of his comment was questioned by a critical online news portal The Online Citizen, implying that it was meant to bolster the government’s stance. Others have [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 04:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is about daft, not race or religion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is about daft, not race or religion</p>
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		<title>By: bodoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bodoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bodoh la</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bodoh la</p>
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		<title>By: theforgottongeneration</title>
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		<dc:creator>theforgottongeneration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@theonlinecitizen, 27 November 2010

&quot;...We have said that we do not allow the same person to post under multiple nics..... 
.....It would be awfully embarrassing if it is revealed where you have been posting from....&quot;

Sometimes I hate TOC for their moderation. This time, they are definitely on the right track. Weasels are just there to misleading everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@theonlinecitizen, 27 November 2010</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;We have said that we do not allow the same person to post under multiple nics&#8230;..<br />
&#8230;..It would be awfully embarrassing if it is revealed where you have been posting from&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes I hate TOC for their moderation. This time, they are definitely on the right track. Weasels are just there to misleading everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What change do you want said:

&quot;Is it so simple? Just resign when a mistake is made? How many mistakes did you or your boss made in the commercial sector? Do you and your boss simply resign over these mistakes? If you run such a system in your company, you will end up having no talented people willing to join your company!&quot;

This is utter and complete nonsense. 

Non-accountablility and non-performance are two of the biggest issues facing us today. Government ministers who are not performing should be removed or should resign to make way for others who can do a better job.

Likewise, CEOs who are not delivering value to their shareholders should make way for others. (Note, we are not talking about small day-to-day problems).

It is a lie perpetuated by the PAP government that there is a shortage of talent. There is no dearth of talent, if only the old ones hanging on to their offices were willing to make way and not hang on to their positions in perpetuity as &#039;Senior Ministers&#039;.

Do not believe these government mouthpieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What change do you want said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Is it so simple? Just resign when a mistake is made? How many mistakes did you or your boss made in the commercial sector? Do you and your boss simply resign over these mistakes? If you run such a system in your company, you will end up having no talented people willing to join your company!&#8221;</p>
<p>This is utter and complete nonsense. </p>
<p>Non-accountablility and non-performance are two of the biggest issues facing us today. Government ministers who are not performing should be removed or should resign to make way for others who can do a better job.</p>
<p>Likewise, CEOs who are not delivering value to their shareholders should make way for others. (Note, we are not talking about small day-to-day problems).</p>
<p>It is a lie perpetuated by the PAP government that there is a shortage of talent. There is no dearth of talent, if only the old ones hanging on to their offices were willing to make way and not hang on to their positions in perpetuity as &#8216;Senior Ministers&#8217;.</p>
<p>Do not believe these government mouthpieces.</p>
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		<title>By: PAP Sucks</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/mas-selamat%e2%80%99s-escape-%e2%80%93-it-is-about-govt-incompetency-not-race-or-religion/comment-page-3/#comment-169495</link>
		<dc:creator>PAP Sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 22:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on!

Are Singaporeans really that stupid and daft like the old man claims?

We all know what the ISD is really used for -- to catch and detain political opponents of the old man.

When it comes to the real terrorists like Mas Selamat, the ISD is useless.

If you pay me millions and millions of dollars of salary, I can guarantee you that a limping terrorist will not be allowed to see the day light ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on!</p>
<p>Are Singaporeans really that stupid and daft like the old man claims?</p>
<p>We all know what the ISD is really used for &#8212; to catch and detain political opponents of the old man.</p>
<p>When it comes to the real terrorists like Mas Selamat, the ISD is useless.</p>
<p>If you pay me millions and millions of dollars of salary, I can guarantee you that a limping terrorist will not be allowed to see the day light ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: preston loon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/mas-selamat%e2%80%99s-escape-%e2%80%93-it-is-about-govt-incompetency-not-race-or-religion/comment-page-3/#comment-169477</link>
		<dc:creator>preston loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mainline media is not a thinking machine.They are just a printing machine for the Singapore government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mainline media is not a thinking machine.They are just a printing machine for the Singapore government.</p>
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		<title>By: bedouin</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/mas-selamat%e2%80%99s-escape-%e2%80%93-it-is-about-govt-incompetency-not-race-or-religion/comment-page-2/#comment-169472</link>
		<dc:creator>bedouin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>misdirection.... misdirection... misdirection. Oldest trick in the political strategy manual.

//b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>misdirection&#8230;. misdirection&#8230; misdirection. Oldest trick in the political strategy manual.</p>
<p>//b</p>
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		<title>By: Sicko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sicko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shamugam don&#039;t make sense at all!

Mas Selamat&#039;s family members may number more than a hundred BUT how many homes have they got?? Trying to trick us using numbers??

&quot;Operational security matters&quot;?! That&#039;s just another smoke screen!!!
Please tell us what your ministry had done and had not done. Easy for you to say &quot;operational security matters&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamugam don&#8217;t make sense at all!</p>
<p>Mas Selamat&#8217;s family members may number more than a hundred BUT how many homes have they got?? Trying to trick us using numbers??</p>
<p>&#8220;Operational security matters&#8221;?! That&#8217;s just another smoke screen!!!<br />
Please tell us what your ministry had done and had not done. Easy for you to say &#8220;operational security matters&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: simple citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>simple citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF, I was caught in a hugh traffic jam at the second link  for more than 4 hours while the MIB bent down on their asses to look under the lorries and heavy trucks one by one under the hot sun, looking for the limping man!!
This scenario carried on for more than 2 weeks!!
Oh! they forgot about the HDB house, too busy looking under, the brains must have
stuck with grease!!
Did anybody ever memtioned about man-hours and resources lost for the wild-goose chase!!??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF, I was caught in a hugh traffic jam at the second link  for more than 4 hours while the MIB bent down on their asses to look under the lorries and heavy trucks one by one under the hot sun, looking for the limping man!!<br />
This scenario carried on for more than 2 weeks!!<br />
Oh! they forgot about the HDB house, too busy looking under, the brains must have<br />
stuck with grease!!<br />
Did anybody ever memtioned about man-hours and resources lost for the wild-goose chase!!??</p>
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		<title>By: ihavenoTUDUNG2wear</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/mas-selamat%e2%80%99s-escape-%e2%80%93-it-is-about-govt-incompetency-not-race-or-religion/comment-page-2/#comment-169453</link>
		<dc:creator>ihavenoTUDUNG2wear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What change do you want?
Do you and your boss simply resign over these mistakes? If you run such a system in your company, you will end up having no talented people willing to join your company!
.....................
ha ha ha.. i now know WHO you are...
you are indeed the aidedecamp/press secretary of our highness the prince from the prime minister office...
remembered onced when 33% of the peasants 1st the former lta  shortleggs minister to be removed when he fartup the erp/coe policies...
the prime minister echoed in the 143th newmedia with this sentence
IF WE KEEP SACKIN ministers..we would not hav any ministers left to take charge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What change do you want?<br />
Do you and your boss simply resign over these mistakes? If you run such a system in your company, you will end up having no talented people willing to join your company!<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
ha ha ha.. i now know WHO you are&#8230;<br />
you are indeed the aidedecamp/press secretary of our highness the prince from the prime minister office&#8230;<br />
remembered onced when 33% of the peasants 1st the former lta  shortleggs minister to be removed when he fartup the erp/coe policies&#8230;<br />
the prime minister echoed in the 143th newmedia with this sentence<br />
IF WE KEEP SACKIN ministers..we would not hav any ministers left to take charge</p>
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		<title>By: TaoLi</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/mas-selamat%e2%80%99s-escape-%e2%80%93-it-is-about-govt-incompetency-not-race-or-religion/comment-page-2/#comment-169445</link>
		<dc:creator>TaoLi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Govt shouldnt have play with the Race issue.  Just accept their incompetency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Govt shouldnt have play with the Race issue.  Just accept their incompetency.</p>
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		<title>By: kf</title>
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		<dc:creator>kf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What change do you want?,

I actually find your level of forgiveness unusually high. Having a terrorist escape must surely be placed at the highest level of accountability, to commensurate with what the office holder has been compensated for in renumerations and benefits in kind. Take a close look at the how the policy makers are responding. Either there wasn&#039;t any admission of accountability on their part at the early stages, or claims that the investigations have yielded satisfactory steps taken. (Not even for a million dollars, we cannot have a claim that sufficient steps have been taken and yet the outcome is not satisfactory.).  

Try asking the private sector for the same level of forgiveness, given the seriousness of the issue, with a fraction of the pay and see what happens. Or ask anyone on the street if the entire episode is how talented people should have handled it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What change do you want?,</p>
<p>I actually find your level of forgiveness unusually high. Having a terrorist escape must surely be placed at the highest level of accountability, to commensurate with what the office holder has been compensated for in renumerations and benefits in kind. Take a close look at the how the policy makers are responding. Either there wasn&#8217;t any admission of accountability on their part at the early stages, or claims that the investigations have yielded satisfactory steps taken. (Not even for a million dollars, we cannot have a claim that sufficient steps have been taken and yet the outcome is not satisfactory.).  </p>
<p>Try asking the private sector for the same level of forgiveness, given the seriousness of the issue, with a fraction of the pay and see what happens. Or ask anyone on the street if the entire episode is how talented people should have handled it.</p>
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		<title>By: theonlinecitizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/mas-selamat%e2%80%99s-escape-%e2%80%93-it-is-about-govt-incompetency-not-race-or-religion/comment-page-2/#comment-169429</link>
		<dc:creator>theonlinecitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 05:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sellers,
Feel free to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sellers,<br />
Feel free to.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: TOC

I would be very interested to respond to &#039;What Change Do You Want?&#039;s remarks. With your permission, may I do so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: TOC</p>
<p>I would be very interested to respond to &#8216;What Change Do You Want?&#8217;s remarks. With your permission, may I do so?</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup: Week 48 &#171; The Singapore Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup: Week 48 &#171; The Singapore Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mas Selamat saga: Communications management by the government and media [Recommended] - TOC: Mas Selamat’s escape – It is about Govt incompetency, not race or religion - Simply Gab: MSK saga &#8211; what we need now - The Kent Ridge Common: Look closely: Missing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mas Selamat saga: Communications management by the government and media [Recommended] &#8211; TOC: Mas Selamat’s escape – It is about Govt incompetency, not race or religion &#8211; Simply Gab: MSK saga &#8211; what we need now &#8211; The Kent Ridge Common: Look closely: Missing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: theonlinecitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>theonlinecitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@What Change Do You Want?
Your comments have been deleted. We have found out that you have posted in other threads using other nics. eg &#039;Live Today&#039; and &#039;don&#039;t get bolt down&#039;. 

We have said that we do not allow the same person to post under multiple nics. While we allow anyone to comment regardless of their views, as long as it observes our moderation conditions, we do not allow spammers pretending to be many different people. Please stick to one identity.

It would be awfully embarrassing if it is revealed where you have been posting from</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@What Change Do You Want?<br />
Your comments have been deleted. We have found out that you have posted in other threads using other nics. eg &#8216;Live Today&#8217; and &#8216;don&#8217;t get bolt down&#8217;. </p>
<p>We have said that we do not allow the same person to post under multiple nics. While we allow anyone to comment regardless of their views, as long as it observes our moderation conditions, we do not allow spammers pretending to be many different people. Please stick to one identity.</p>
<p>It would be awfully embarrassing if it is revealed where you have been posting from</p>
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		<title>By: What change do you want?</title>
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		<dc:creator>What change do you want?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@VoteForChange 26 November 2010 

Is it so simple? Just resign when a mistake is made?  How many mistakes did you or your boss made in the commercial sector? Do you and your boss simply resign over these mistakes? If you run such a system in your company, you will end up having no talented people willing to join your company!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VoteForChange 26 November 2010 </p>
<p>Is it so simple? Just resign when a mistake is made?  How many mistakes did you or your boss made in the commercial sector? Do you and your boss simply resign over these mistakes? If you run such a system in your company, you will end up having no talented people willing to join your company!</p>
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		<title>By: ihavenoTUDUNG2wear</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihavenoTUDUNG2wear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the south korean defence minister just step down after his south koreans troop were caught unguarded and kannaed artillery bombardment..so ALL ministers in singapore..DO YOUR job or resigned...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the south korean defence minister just step down after his south koreans troop were caught unguarded and kannaed artillery bombardment..so ALL ministers in singapore..DO YOUR job or resigned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VoteForChange</title>
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		<dc:creator>VoteForChange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not be drawn into this political trap as it&#039;s just a distraction to us of their incompetencies.Other countries such as Japan and South Korea and even Taiwan, those responsible will be taken to task and force to resign.Our well-paid &#039;figures&#039;are still unscathed and leading a luxurious lives.On the other hand,the common folks are experiencing unbearable costs to their daily bread and butter issues.For so many decades,we&#039;ve been taken for granted and slighted without any consideration for our welfares and the time is up for us to remedy these obnoxious situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not be drawn into this political trap as it&#8217;s just a distraction to us of their incompetencies.Other countries such as Japan and South Korea and even Taiwan, those responsible will be taken to task and force to resign.Our well-paid &#8216;figures&#8217;are still unscathed and leading a luxurious lives.On the other hand,the common folks are experiencing unbearable costs to their daily bread and butter issues.For so many decades,we&#8217;ve been taken for granted and slighted without any consideration for our welfares and the time is up for us to remedy these obnoxious situations.</p>
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